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Quote Ez.36. 1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
2.verse.24. God will take them from the heathen,and gather them into their own country,ISRAEL.
3. verse25.God will make them clean.
4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart.
5. verse 27.they will walk in Gods statutes.
6. verse28. They will dwell in ISRAEL.(paradise).
7. verse 35. the land will be as the garden of eden.
8. verse 37.God will increase them with men(have children). this means they marry and have children.I can not make it simpler than this.
wakeup.
ALL THAT HAS BEEN FULLFILLED WITH CHRIST AND THE PEACHING OF THE GOSPEL EVERY TRUE DISCIPLE AD A NEW CHILD TO CHRIST CHURCH AND TO GOD S FAMILY
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2012,13:51) WUP Quote Ez.36. 1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
2.verse.24. God will take them from the heathen,and gather them into their own country,ISRAEL.
3. verse25.God will make them clean.
4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart.
5. verse 27.they will walk in Gods statutes.
6. verse28. They will dwell in ISRAEL.(paradise).
7. verse 35. the land will be as the garden of eden.
8. verse 37.God will increase them with men(have children). this means they marry and have children.I can not make it simpler than this.
wakeup.
ALL THAT HAS BEEN FULLFILLED WITH CHRIST AND THE PEACHING OF THE GOSPEL EVERY TRUE DISCIPLE AD A NEW CHILD TO CHRIST CHURCH AND TO GOD S FAMILY
Terra.Do the jews live in peace today? yes/no
Are they in paradise today? yes/no
Is jerusalem paradise today? yes/no
Are they made clean today? yes/no
Are they walking with God today? yes/no
Is jerusalem like the garden of eden today? yes/no.wakeup.
Quote j42 This shows that these 144,000 are with Christ first,
1)but the rest join shortly after,
both groups are saints regardless.1)WHAT REST
SUPPOSE TO JOIN SHORTLY AFTER WHAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE
PierreEvery man in his own order—-
We know that the first resurrection takes place at Christ's coming, and all will meet him in the air.
1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
1Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.So the dead in Christ first, then those who are alive get caught up to Christ
but…
Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion,…and with him an hundred and forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: ….Christ the firstfruits;….. afterward…..they that are Christ's at his coming.
WHO ARE THE FIRSTFRUITS?
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.All happens at the same time, but in groups.
now all ye dead (first group)
now all ye still alive and remaining (another group)
and all will meet together in the clouds.1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order…
Why are only the 144,000 standing on Mt Zion?
Where are the rest at this stage?
Could it be that the 144,000 are already there with Christ,
before the dead get resurrected, and those alive get caught up?
Something to think about!!!!Many follow Christ, but only few have the full truth in the last days, these 144,000 are them I believe.
and Zion proudly declares all that is truth, not error.Quote Ez.36. 1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
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Pierre,1. Ezekiel 36:11 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded.
Pierre, you say fulfilled? You are still back in 70AD. (the rebuilding afterwards) or are you still back in 1948?
Move forward, for the Land of Israel will be totally invaded & demolished, and this has not happened yet.
How can you not be aware of the false prophet going into Israel, and the Medes attacking?…Jacob's trouble…(rev 9:16 & 16:16)
Everything that has happened in the past, and happening today with the muslem countries hating Israel is leading up to this great war.Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand.
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains; a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them, and behind them a flame burneth; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness, yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joel 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joel 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joel 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war, and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks.
Joel 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another, they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joel 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses, they shall enter in at the windows like a theif.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble; the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: (rev 8:12)AND IF YOU STILL BELIEVE THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE END THEN READ ON
Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it.
Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning.
Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breast: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Joel 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?Joel 2:18 Then will the Lord be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Joel 2:19 Yea, the Lord will answer and say unto HIS people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen.
Pierre, Israel is hated by so many, especially her neighbours…they want to wipe her off the map.Joel 2:20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savor shall come up, because he hath done great things.
The king of the North. (false prophets kingdom, with the 10 leaders)Quote 4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart. Pierre,
Not fulfilled.
Israel do not have a new heart yet.John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 20 2012,00:10) Quote j42 This shows that these 144,000 are with Christ first,
1)but the rest join shortly after,
both groups are saints regardless.1)WHAT REST
SUPPOSE TO JOIN SHORTLY AFTER WHAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE
PierreEvery man in his own order—-
We know that the first resurrection takes place at Christ's coming, and all will meet him in the air.
1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
1Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.So the dead in Christ first, then those who are alive get caught up to Christ
but…
Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion,…and with him an hundred and forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: ….Christ the firstfruits;….. afterward…..they that are Christ's at his coming.
WHO ARE THE FIRSTFRUITS?
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.All happens at the same time, but in groups.
now all ye dead (first group)
now all ye still alive and remaining (another group)
and all will meet together in the clouds.1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order…
Why are only the 144,000 standing on Mt Zion?
Where are the rest at this stage?
Could it be that the 144,000 are already there with Christ,
before the dead get resurrected, and those alive get caught up?
Something to think about!!!!Many follow Christ, but only few have the full truth in the last days, these 144,000 are them I believe.
and Zion proudly declares all that is truth, not error.
J42Quote now all ye still alive and remaining (another group) not another group, same 144k
Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 20 2012,03:03) Quote Ez.36. 1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
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Pierre,1. Ezekiel 36:11 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded.
Pierre, you say fulfilled? You are still back in 70AD. (the rebuilding afterwards) or are you still back in 1948?
Move forward, for the Land of Israel will be totally invaded & demolished, and this has not happened yet.
How can you not be aware of the false prophet going into Israel, and the Medes attacking?…Jacob's trouble…(rev 9:16 & 16:16)
Everything that has happened in the past, and happening today with the muslem countries hating Israel is leading up to this great war.Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand.
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains; a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them, and behind them a flame burneth; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness, yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joel 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joel 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joel 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war, and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks.
Joel 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another, they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joel 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses, they shall enter in at the windows like a theif.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble; the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: (rev 8:12)AND IF YOU STILL BELIEVE THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE END THEN READ ON
Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it.
Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning.
Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breast: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Joel 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?Joel 2:18 Then will the Lord be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Joel 2:19 Yea, the Lord will answer and say unto HIS people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen.
Pierre, Israel is hated by so many, especially her neighbours…they want to wipe her off the map.Joel 2:20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savor shall come up, because he hath done great things.
The king of the North. (false prophets kingdom, with the 10 leaders)
j42Quote 1. Ezekiel 36:11 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded.
Pierre, you say fulfilled? You are still back in 70AD. (the rebuilding afterwards) or are you still back in 1948?
Move forward, for the Land of Israel will be totally invaded & demolished, and this has not happened yet.
How can you not be aware of the false prophet going into Israel, and the Medes attacking?…Jacob's trouble…(rev 9:16 & 16:16)
Everything that has happened in the past, and happening today with the muslem countries hating Israel is leading up to this great war.this as nothing to do with today Israel or Jerusalem,
it is the heavenly Jerusalem that is build block (soul) by block (144k of them )the only redeemd from the earth.
and the saints (apostles of Christ (12)
j42
Quote Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand. this is the day of Christ
j42
Quote Joel 2:19 Yea, the Lord will answer and say unto HIS people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen.
Pierre, Israel is hated by so many, especially her neighbours…they want to wipe her off the map.this is Christ and his people ,Gods people the new Israel of God not of men
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2012,23:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2012,13:51) WUP Quote Ez.36. 1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
2.verse.24. God will take them from the heathen,and gather them into their own country,ISRAEL.
3. verse25.God will make them clean.
4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart.
5. verse 27.they will walk in Gods statutes.
6. verse28. They will dwell in ISRAEL.(paradise).
7. verse 35. the land will be as the garden of eden.
8. verse 37.God will increase them with men(have children). this means they marry and have children.I can not make it simpler than this.
wakeup.
ALL THAT HAS BEEN FULLFILLED WITH CHRIST AND THE PEACHING OF THE GOSPEL EVERY TRUE DISCIPLE AD A NEW CHILD TO CHRIST CHURCH AND TO GOD S FAMILY
Terra.Do the jews live in peace today? yes/no
Are they in paradise today? yes/no
Is jerusalem paradise today? yes/no
Are they made clean today? yes/no
Are they walking with God today? yes/no
Is jerusalem like the garden of eden today? yes/no.wakeup.
wup1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast. IS THIS NOT SO ??
2.verse.24. God will take them from the heathen,and gather them into their own country,ISRAEL.YES BUT NOT THE EARTHLY ISRAEL THE SPIRITUAL THE NEW CITY AND COUNTRY
3. verse25.God will make them clean.YES FORGIVENISE OF SINS THROUGH THE SACRIFISE OF CHRIST
4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart.YES A HEART OF LOVE FOR HIM AND HIS TRUTH
5. verse 27.they will walk in Gods statutes.YES THEY ALL DO THAT THOSE TRUE BELIEVERS
6. verse28. They will dwell in ISRAEL.(paradise).YES THEY WILL ,IN THE NEW EARTH AND HEAVEN ,BUT FOR NOW THE TAST OF IT
7. verse 35. the land will be as the garden of eden.YES NEW EARTH,FOR NOW IT IS THE COLLECTION OF THE BEST OF THE FRUITS FOR CHRIST AND GOD (MEN)
8. verse 37.God will increase them with men(have children). this means they marry and have children.YES,INCREASE THEM WITH NEW BELIEVERSJ42
Quote Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it. THE DAYS OF CHRIST
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2012,22:48) J42 Quote Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it. THE DAYS OF CHRIST
Pierre,What do you mean?
The days of Christ before?
or the days of Christ to come?because if you mean't before, then it doesn't make sense,
because when Christ came he did not come to judge,
but to give light
and when he returns,
he will come to give judgement,
and that day will be terrible for those
not expecting it.Quote J42 now all ye still alive and remaining (another group)
not another group, same 144k]
PierreHow can be?
which group?
the dead that get risen or the ones still alive remaining?doesn't fit.
It's very clear the 144,000 are standing on Mt Zion with Christ, then the rest comeRev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds and people and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.
a great multitude which no man could number?Quote Everything that has happened in the past, and happening today with the muslem countries hating Israel is leading up to this great war. this as nothing to do with today Israel or Jerusalem,
it is the heavenly Jerusalem that is build block (soul) by block (144k of them )the only redeemd from the earth.
and the saints (apostles of Christ (12)
Pierre,
What about God's promise to them?
promising them that outsiders are coming in to get the prize, and they miss out entirely is not according to God's Word.
What about the scriptures I gave you?
did you read them?It still doesn't make sense for you?
You have never heard this before,
Israel being brought back in the flesh,
and living in the kingdom here on earth,
with Christ and the saints ruling over them,
teaching them,
and them teaching the gentiles outside the kingdom.There are more than 12 saints,
for anyone resurrected and caught up with Christ at his coming,
is called a saint
If it doesn't fit what you have pictured in your head
then you are not alone,
the whole christian world cannot see this,
after giving tons of scripture
we three must be very peculiar?
declaring something so stronglyQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,13:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2012,13:44) Terra. Ez.37.
1. verse5. breath.
2. verse 6. sinews,flesh,skin,breath.
3. verse 8. sinews,flesh,skin.
4. verse 9. wind as the breath of life.
5. verse11. those bones are the whole house of ISRAEL.
6. verse12. God will bring them into the land of ISRAEL.
7. verse 25. Their children and childrens children(muliply in the flesh). this means they get married.
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Ez.36.1.verse11. God will multiply man and beast.
2.verse.24. God will take them from the heathen,and gather them into their own country,ISRAEL.
3. verse25.God will make them clean.
4. verse 26. God will give them a new heart.
5. verse 27.they will walk in Gods statutes.
6. verse28. They will dwell in ISRAEL.(paradise).
7. verse 35. the land will be as the garden of eden.
8. verse 37.God will increase them with men(have children). this means they marry and have children.I can not make it simpler than this.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Are you suggesting that this the first resurrection?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Edj.Yes this is what is going to happen in the first resurrection.
The First fruits will meet the Lord in the air.(144000 only).
The REST of the christians have to go through the tribulation; this is a test for them to show how much they love christ, THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
THE TRUE FOLLOWERS WILL NOT TAKE THE MARK,because they truly loved Christ.(thats concrete proof).
This is proof that they really love Christ.
They will be resurrected in a spirit body.The jews that has been elected by choice,will be REVIVED IN THE FLESH,and put in israel.(paradise).
They will be taught BY THE SAINTS FOR A 1000YRS.
And knowledge on earth will be as the sea cover the earth.And the gentiles living OUTSIDE the kingdom will be taught by the JEWS; There will be many christians amongs the gentiles; they are them that did not make it in the first resurrection. (they are shut out).
wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 20 2012,06:15) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2012,22:48) J42 Quote Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it. THE DAYS OF CHRIST
Pierre,What do you mean?
The days of Christ before?
or the days of Christ to come?because if you mean't before, then it doesn't make sense,
because when Christ came he did not come to judge,
but to give light
and when he returns,
he will come to give judgement,
and that day will be terrible for those
not expecting it.
j42all scriptures sinse Abraham were telling the blessing of the offspring to come this was the promise of Christ ,all the way through the prophets ,until that day was there and Christ came ,and preached the new covenant,that could be made with anyone that believe in him .
wen he died and before and after his resurrection he also said that he would be coming back,
Christ does not have to judge anyone only to execute the judgement ;
Jn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.Jn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already
can you understand this
Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 20 2012,07:03) Quote Everything that has happened in the past, and happening today with the muslem countries hating Israel is leading up to this great war. this as nothing to do with today Israel or Jerusalem,
it is the heavenly Jerusalem that is build block (soul) by block (144k of them )the only redeemd from the earth.
and the saints (apostles of Christ (12)
Pierre,
What about God's promise to them?
promising them that outsiders are coming in to get the prize, and they miss out entirely is not according to God's Word.
What about the scriptures I gave you?
did you read them?It still doesn't make sense for you?
You have never heard this before,
Israel being brought back in the flesh,
and living in the kingdom here on earth,
with Christ and the saints ruling over them,
teaching them,
and them teaching the gentiles outside the kingdom.There are more than 12 saints,
for anyone resurrected and caught up with Christ at his coming,
is called a saint
If it doesn't fit what you have pictured in your head
then you are not alone,
the whole christian world cannot see this,
after giving tons of scripture
we three must be very peculiar?
declaring something so strongly
j42read the scriptures God as kept his word and fulfill all what he promised even do that Israel did not stay faithful
read Revelation ;but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.and this is for the other group on earth;
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.Quote for anyone resurrected and caught up with Christ at his coming,
is called a saintthis we will know them at the resurrection wen we meet them
and for those that are caught up in the air ,those would be the last of the 144k
were does it say that their are more than 144k redeemed from the earth
j42
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds and people and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.
a great multitude which no man could number?THEY STAND BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD,RIGHT
YES AND WERE IS THAT IS NOT THE EARTH THE FOOTSTOOL OF GOD YES SO WE ALL STAND BEFORE GOD THRONEQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 18 2012,19:03) If you could show me scriptures revering THAT DAY,and not mean the Lords day; his day of power.
I would appreciate it.
Here are 121 different mentions of “in that day”. They are surely not all about the 1000 year reign. And from what I can tell, it is not clear that any of them are about the 1000 year reign.Quote j42 all scriptures sinse Abraham were telling the blessing of the offspring to come this was the promise of Christ ,all the way through the prophets ,until that day was there and Christ came ,and preached the new covenant,that could be made with anyone that believe in him .
Pierre,
OK then, I agree,
there are prophecy's in the OT telling the Jews that their Messiah would come, and these prophesies were fulfilled.
but it does not stop there.There are also prophesies indicating his 2nd coming in there,
and events leading up to it.
We know in detail what is soon to happen,
where the trouble will start, (Kings of the North, Europe)
The 10 kings,
The false prophet, forcing all to receive his mark
The false prophet occupying Israel, and making a secret deal with them,
Israel being occupied for 3 1/2 years (the people have no idea, their leaders are about to hand their land over to the most evil man ever to exist)
The false prophet building his own temple there,
The Medes (Iran) and her allies standing up against him,
The gathering of the armies there (Armageddon)
The terrible things these war mongers (medes) will do to the Israelites there,
the devestation they will cause to the land of Israel when they come in,
the pain, the sorrow, the people, the tears, the loss of lives, the hopelessness, the fear,…the humility & oppression,
they will say “where is our God?”
and all the nations will say “where is your God now?”We know about the great delusion,
making those armies there (200 million men) who are about to fight each other,
turn around, team up, and fight the “so called aliens in the sky” which is what they are told,
when instead they fight Christ without even knowing it, (the big delusion)
and Christ coming with his saints,
and Christ bounding Satan for a thousand years,
and Christ setting up his kingdom, in Jerusalem,
extending the boundaries of Israel to come,
bringing the dead jews back in the flesh (the reserved)
and ruling for a thousand years,
the nations existing outside the kingdom, with their authority taken away,
the major cities all destroyed, now just ruinous heaps,
never being cleaned up as a reminder,
just a habitation for devils, and wild beasts, (devils not locked up)
people living outside the old cities, setting up new towns,
building their own houses,
working with their hands,we even know what happens after these 1000 years,
Satan being let loose,
the battle of gog and magog
Satan destroyed,
the great judgement day,
the 2nd resurrection,
the melting of the earth,
the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven,
Christ handing the Kingdom back to his Father,all this is in short,
all this we have learned from the OT prophesies,
by matching them up to NT.
Many have missed out on so much knowledge,
there is so much revealed, and so much to share,
and we can't stop now,
because these prophesies concern us, and what is to take place soon,
we will see it with our own eyes,
and when people realise these things coming to be,
they will wonder if their whole doctrine was in error,
for they thought all was past.
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