Did th angels that sin blasphme vs spirit?

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  • #364022
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.

    #364035
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:34)
    Ther are 5 sections.

    The Book of Enoch, Section I
    http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_1.HTM‎

    BOOK OF ENOCH. From-The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament H.R. Charles Oxford: The Clarendon Press

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Here is a Book of 1 Enoch that has the 300 cubit height in it.  The most likely ell,  and smallest, is approximately equal to a cubit of 18″ and someone in the line accidentally tacked on a extra 0 making those giants 4500 feet tall instead of the overlarge 450 in the Koine Greek.

    #364137
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 18 2013,01:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:34)
    Ther are 5 sections.

    The Book of Enoch, Section I
    http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_1.HTM‎

    BOOK OF ENOCH. From-The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament H.R. Charles Oxford: The Clarendon Press

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Here is a Book of 1 Enoch that has the 300 cubit height in it.  The most likely ell,  and smallest, is approximately equal to a cubit of 18″ and someone in the line accidentally tacked on a extra 0 making those giants 4500 feet tall instead of the overlarge 450 in the Koine Greek.


    Thank you Kerwin.

    wakeup.

    #364156
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,18:09)
    But dont see it as litteral.
    The angels was showing Enoch the spritual; in symbols.

    Just as Jesus did with the parable of lazarus.
    The dead can not see anything in the grave.

    John 8:53   Art thou greater than
           ***our father Abraham, which is dead***?
            ***and the prophets are dead***: whom makest thou
                 thyself?

    wakeup.


    Kewin……..I agree with Wakeup on this one, Jesus was simply giving a “Parable” (a factious illustration) about Judgement in the future, about how thing equal out, it is not to be taken literally as what happens immediately after someone dies, because we have scriptures that tell us, “the dead know Nothing” and there is no work or activity in the grave after a person dies, and there is a DAY SET for Judgement in the future, after the resurrection. This i see as a major stumping block for you, Wish you would try to reconsider your stand on it brother.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

    #364161
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.


    so do I ,

    but there are many version of it ,

    t8 put one version on this site as well

    #364163
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,06:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.


    so do I ,

    but there are many version of it ,

    t8 put one version on this site as well


    T.

    That's good;now one need to explain it.

    wakeup.

    #364167
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,01:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,06:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.


    so do I ,

    but there are many version of it ,

    t8 put one version on this site as well


    T.

    That's good;now one need to explain it.

    wakeup.


    W

    JUST AS EVERYTHING ELSE WE ALL HAVE TO STUDY IT AND UNDERSTAND IT WITHIN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S SCRIPTURES ,

    THE OUTCOME IS RELATED TO THE TRUTH WE HAVE INSIDE OF US ,IN OUR HEARTS ,

    #364187
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,07:14)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,01:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,06:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.


    so do I ,

    but there are many version of it ,

    t8 put one version on this site as well


    T.

    That's good;now one need to explain it.

    wakeup.


    W

    JUST AS EVERYTHING ELSE WE ALL HAVE TO STUDY IT AND UNDERSTAND IT WITHIN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S SCRIPTURES ,

    THE OUTCOME IS RELATED TO THE TRUTH WE HAVE INSIDE OF US ,IN OUR HEARTS ,


    T.

    The truth can not come with no works.
    It only comes by seeking.
    Not just by sweet talking yourself.

    wakeup.

    #379079
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You say

    “For your info. there are angels in prison still today.
    Some will be let loose in the sixth trumpet,to gather the armies to one place.”

    Any scripture confirmation?

    #379126
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,03:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,07:14)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,01:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,06:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:45)
    Are there not more than one version of the Book of Enoch ???


    T.

    I suppose there are.
    They also have them in little books,
    one section in each.

    I dont have it in book form,just copy sheets.

    wakeup.


    so do I ,

    but there are many version of it ,

    t8 put one version on this site as well


    T.

    That's good;now one need to explain it.

    wakeup.


    W

    JUST AS EVERYTHING ELSE WE ALL HAVE TO STUDY IT AND UNDERSTAND IT WITHIN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S SCRIPTURES ,

    THE OUTCOME IS RELATED TO THE TRUTH WE HAVE INSIDE OF US ,IN OUR HEARTS ,


    T.

    The truth can not come with no works.
    It only comes by seeking.
    Not just by sweet talking yourself.

    wakeup.


    WUP

    the works are not the seeking but the product or deeds resulting of our seeking and finding the truth ,even if it is small

    #379132
    kerwin
    Participant

    T,

    He is probably speaking of first Enoch. Even then there seems more than one version of it.

    #379175
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2014,13:06)
    Hi WU,
    You say

    “For your info. there are angels in prison still today.
    Some will be let loose in the sixth trumpet,to gather the armies to one place.”

    Any scripture confirmation?


    Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    wakeup.

    #379181
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    But where does it say they were IN PRISON?

    #379185
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,10:19)
    Hi WU,
    But where does it say they were IN PRISON?


    Nick.

    The word BOUND says it.
    Don't you know what bound means?

    wakeup.

    #379201
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    It does not mean imprisoned.
    Your imagination added that thought

    #379262
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,12:04)
    Hi WU,
    It does not mean imprisoned.
    Your imagination added that thought


    Nick.

    What does bound in the great river mean to you?
    And what does let loose mean to you?
    They are confined in the one place; they can not roam freely.

    Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    Reading is one thing;and understanding is another.
    You still disagree; thats fine with me.

    wakeup.

    #379271
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,23:02)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,12:04)
    Hi WU,
    It does not mean imprisoned.
    Your imagination added that thought


    Nick.

    What does bound in the great river mean to you?
    And what does let loose mean to you?
    They are confined in the one place; they can not roam freely.

    Revelation 9:14   Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    Reading is one thing;and understanding is another.
    You still disagree; thats fine with me.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup

    Rev 20:2   And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.

    Rev 20:7   And when the thousand years are expired, Stan shall be loosed from his prison

    #379272
    journey42
    Participant

    Correction – my spelling error.  Should be Satan. Not Stan the man.

    #379282
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU and j42,
    You should not add assumptions to assumptions
    That is how deception develops

    #379383
    journey42
    Participant

    Wakeup

    1 Peter 3:19   By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

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