Did Jesus undergo the final resurection?

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  • #748548
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Yes angels food is manna.

    But angels only appear in humanlike bodies at times.

    Heaven is not physical but spiritual as are God and all angelic beings those who inhabit it.

    #748680
    terraricca
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    hi

     

    what the scoop of this nonsense  ,either Jesus was dead and was resurrected ,and went up to heaven or he never existed nor was he the son of God nor was he the true messiah  ,

     

    make up your  mind for their is only one truth that fits all the scriptures ,did you guys not find it yet ?

    #748682
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……why have any food at all if not required. ?

    No one here has ever proven angelic beings don’t have physical bodies, nor has anyone ever proper the resin Jesus has no physical body either. Just people speculating and force text to say what it is not saying IMO.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

    #748700
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Does God require food?

    Do angels?

    #748701
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    The importance of water in rebirth is shown in 1 Peter 3

     

    #748792
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…….God the Father and his created angelic host are not the same , one is spirit the other is not spirit, but bodies containing spirits in them. But none of angelic creation are higher then the human creation, nor do they have our potential.

    Just as it say , God has put “ALL’ thing under the foot of MAN, NOT ANGELS, and scripture also says “KNOW YOU NOT YOU SHALL “JUDGE” ANGELS. PLACING ANGELS OVER MANKIND IS A WRONG ASSUMPTION, NOT ONE SCRIPTURE SAY WE ARE BELOW ANGELS BEINGS,THE HUMAN CREATION IS THE “CROWN JEWEL” OF GOD THE FATHER CREATION, GOD PUTTING “ALL” THINGS UNDER “MANKINDS FEET,NOT ANGELS FEET, according to,

    Hebrews 2:8, “thou hast put “all thing in subjection under his (mankinds) feet. For in that he (God) put “ALL” in subjection “under” him (mankind) he (GOD) left “NOTHING” THAT IS “NOT” UNDER HIM (MANKIND,

    So I would not sell MANKIND to short if I were you. GOD IT SEEMS CERTAINLY HASN’T. YOU PREJECT JESUS AS A SPIRIT BEING BUT SCRIPTURE HASN’T. SCRIPTURE STILL SHOW HIM AS A SON OF MAN AND WHEN HE RETURNS HE WILL COME AS A SON OF MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORD, THAT IS. CHANGING JESUS TO AN ANGEL IS A FALSE TEACHING NICK, no scripture says he has been changed to any kind of Angel, nowhere in our bibles does it say that. Because Jesus said we are to be “as” the angels does not mean we will be angels, that is pure speculation on many peoples part.

    Mankind has a much better relationship with God then the angels, because we can have a Father Son relationship with him, angels can’t , God the Father does not indwell the angels, he created their spirits and sends them forth to do what their created spirits lead them to do. They do not have a Father Son relationship with him, as we can, he also can indwell us and a
    live in us, I see no where that is done in angels. IMO

    #748799
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Angels are not spirit?

    heb 1.14

    #748801
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Hi KW,
    Yes the body alike to the man from heaven is not of earthly origin

    The body comes from the mind of God and he is in heaven. The mortal body became mortal because of the sin of humankind.

    #748802
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Hebrews 1:14 is not proof as spirit can also mean ” a person having a character or disposition of a specified nature “. You can claim the Spirit led you do believe that it means a supernatural creature like an elf or goblin but not like a ghost.

    Note: source for the quoted definition is Mirriam-Websters online dictionary.

    #748846
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…..heb 1:14 , should be read as GOD MAKES HIS ANGELS SPIRITS, IT IS NOT SAYING HIS ANGELS “ARE ” SPIRITS, BUT God forms their spirits they have in them and sends them out to minister to the Sons of God, please notice verse 2:5 of Hebrews this should help clarify it to you.

    Heb 2:5…….”For unto the angels has he (God) not put in subjection the world to come whereof we speak.”

    Now scripture having said that, then we know the world to come will not be in subjection to angels. So we them can also know, Jesus is no angel nor are the saints, because the world to come will be in subjection to them, right? So they can’t be angels of anykind. Think about it Nick

    Peace and love to you and yours………………gene

    #748894
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Yes Jesus is not an angel and neither are the saints.

    But we will be like to the man from heaven, not the man from earth.

    #748926
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    Hebrews 1:14 is not proof as spirit can also mean ” a person having a character or disposition of a specified nature “. You can claim the Spirit led you do believe that it means a supernatural creature like an elf or goblin but not like a ghost.

    Note: source for the quoted definition is Mirriam-Websters online dictionary.

    What are your thoughts on these words I said to Nick?

    #748932
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Is anything proof to you?

    Is anything greater than your ideas?

    #748935
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Is anything proof to you?

    Is anything greater than your ideas?

    The same to you.

    That is what the Spirit is about. You test what you hear, believe, and do with the Spirit. Why do you not know this?

    #748943
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    The Spirit is not the natural minds of men.

    #748961
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    The Spirit is not the natural minds of men.

    Yes, as it is the ideas of Spiritual men that are from God as they have the ability to judge Spiritual things.

    #748986
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Yes and they do not take away from scripture

    #748989
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…….A man who is “born”, is a flesh and blood man, and the sprit that is in that man is from God the Father, what Jesus meant when he said, that he was from above “heaven”, was he had the spirit from God who is from above was “in” him, therefore he was from above even as he said. He also said his deciples were not of this world even as he was not . None of that changed them into spirit beings.

    Jesus will still be a flesh and bone son of man when he returns. He who is found worthy to eat of the tree of life can live forever even with a flesh body.IMO

    God the Father did not create man with flesh and blood to die, sin caused that to take place, God’s original intent was for man to live forever just the way he created him. Mankind is not inferior in any way to other life forms, except for God the Father himself. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours………………..gene

    #748990
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Kerwin…… Spirit can only mean spirit, “SPRITUAL” CAN MEAN HAVING SPIRIT CHATERISTICS or dispositions. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………gene

    #748992
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Do you know what the son of man from heaven will be like?

    Just like the son of earth?

     

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