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- September 3, 2014 at 9:38 am#748154NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
The Lord is the Spirit.
we will be alike to the LordSeptember 3, 2014 at 10:19 am#748191kerwinParticipantNick,
Yes, God is the Spirit but he also has a Spirit which is called the Spirit.
September 3, 2014 at 10:20 am#748193NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
God is divided from His Spirit?September 3, 2014 at 10:20 am#748194kerwinParticipantNick,
Yes a new body put over the old so we do not awake naked.
What do you think of the “if” in Paul’s statement?
September 3, 2014 at 10:22 am#748196kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
God is divided from His Spirit?Two different used of the word Spirit and each use has a different definition from the other.
September 3, 2014 at 10:23 am#748197NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Which IF?September 3, 2014 at 10:23 am#748198NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
How is God defined differently from His Spirit?September 3, 2014 at 10:30 am#748199kerwinParticipantNick,
I mentioned it in another thread so I will try to remember to bring it up in that thread.
To answer your question Paul said if his earthly body is destroyed then he has a body in heaven that is not made by human hands.
September 3, 2014 at 10:49 am#748221NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Yes the body alike to the man from heaven is not of earthly originSeptember 3, 2014 at 11:09 am#748222GeneBalthropParticipantNick………Angels have bodies, in fact Jacob fought with one and all night and would not let Go until he was smote in the side and still hung on to recieve a blessing. , as a result his named was changed to ISRAEL , or overcomer .because he prevail with the angel of the Lord. So I hardly think his body was weak or puny as you believe human bodies are. Sin caused our bodies to become weakened, but it was not that way in the begnning. In fact as I have said here before man could have lived forever with the body he has if it weren’t for sin, as scripture says, he would not need any renewal at all had sin not entered into the world.
You sell our God given bodies short or haven’t you read “a body have I prepared for you” and a spirit is not abody,but is what indwells bodies, and all bodies consist of physical MATTER. If my body can be restored to what God had in mind at the creation I am fine with that. If you believe you are going to be some spirit floating around in “ARID” places seeking a place to rest, then that is fine, I for one do not want that nor do I believe that was God the Father’s intention for me or, any of his physical creation. If you believe there is no physical resurection Nick, you are in error, IMO
Scripture also says the WHOLE CREATION will be DELIEVERD from its BOND of its CORRUPTION.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene
September 3, 2014 at 11:39 am#748224NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Do angels ALWAYS have bodies?The new bodies will not be subject to corruption.
Neither will they require maintenance as they do now .we will be like to the angels
September 3, 2014 at 2:13 pm#748255Ed JParticipantwe will be like to the angels
Mmmm?
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be;” (Eccl 1:9)
“Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Eccl 12:7)September 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm#748278NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Yes what is of earth returns there.
A new body is the plan.
September 3, 2014 at 4:54 pm#748294Ed JParticipantYes, but the important part here is the next part…
“and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it”
September 3, 2014 at 6:38 pm#748311NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Yes of course the spirit of man returns to God-as happened with Jesus on Calvary.
Unless a man has been born of the Spirit he cannot be raised in the first resurrection by the Spirit of God
September 3, 2014 at 8:13 pm#748328Ed JParticipantHe must be born of water too.
September 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm#748374NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Yes the vessel must submit to cleansing before God
September 4, 2014 at 12:54 am#748405Ed JParticipantsubmit to cleansing
Submitting to cleansing is being born???
September 4, 2014 at 1:26 am#748451GeneBalthropParticipantNick…….And what makes you think angels don’t eat, haven’t you heard of manna, angels food? And yes angels do have bodies all the time what makes you think they do not?
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
September 4, 2014 at 6:31 am#748547NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
God usually requires the cleansing before allowing men to be reborn from above by the Spirit.
He made an exception with Cornelius yet the water was still given to fulfill all righteousness.
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