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Hiya.
Please show me somewhere in the NT where Jesus is – without a shadow of doubt – eating meat. This does not include FISH, and please do not use any books of Paul (Hebrews is okay though).
Thanks.
Hiya.
Please show me somewhere in the NT where Jesus is – without a shadow of doubt – eating meat. This does not include FISH, and please do not use any books of Paul (Hebrews is okay though).
Thanks.
Hi Miia,
Easy…
“his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover? 13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him. 14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?” (Mark 14:12-14)
The Passover meal is “LAMB” – and Lamb is “a meat” right?
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God bless
Ed JThe only abundant source of meat in a desert near the sea would be fish. And why not include that?
Thanks t8.
Because fish is not necessarily classed as meat. There are vegans /vegetarians called pescatarians who will eat fish.
Hi Miia,
Easy…
“his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover? 13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him. 14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?” (Mark 14:12-14)
The Passover meal is “LAMB” – and Lamb is “a meat” right?
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God bless
Ed JThanks Ed.
Lamb was not always used for the Passover. Vegetarians used a meatless substitute in Jesus day from what I heard. But thanks I will look into that verse. Still doesn’t explicitly state Jesus ate lamb.
Not all flesh is the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another, and fish another. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies.
All these have flesh. We know he ate fish which is flesh. Possibly lamb too.
Luke 24:41-43
“Jesus said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they have him a piece of broiled fish…And he took it, and did eat before them”.In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15). After the flood in Noah’s time, God gave humanity permission to eat meat (Genesis 9:2-3). God has never rescinded this permission.
If Jesus opposed the slaughter and consumption of animals, the New Testament tells nothing of it. Paul even warns against such a doctrine of demons, requiring others to abstain from God-given food (1 Timothy 4:3).
God gave humanity permission to eat meat after the flood (Genesis 9:3). In the Old Testament law, the nation of Israel was commanded not to eat certain foods (Leviticus 11:1-47), but there was never a command against eating meat. Jesus declared all foods, including all kinds of meat, to be clean (Mark 7:19).
As Christians, we are still called to treat animals with kindness. God made everything that lives on the earth – including the animals and the Bibles us to take care of the animals under our care.
https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/was-jesus-a-vegetarian.aspx
My view is this.
We all die. Humans, animals, plants.
We all become food.
Our bodies will be eaten by worms and provide nutrients for plants.
Knowing this, we should be kind while we are alive on this earth.
I think all living things deserve a good life.
But eventually, we will all become food one way or another.
It is how the earth recycles the elements.
Still doesn’t explicitly state Jesus ate lamb.
Hi Miia, oh no ???
Context Context Context!
“And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover,
his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare
that thou mayest eat the passover?” (Mark 14:12)The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber,
where – I SHALL EAT – the passover with my disciples?” (Mark 14:14)“when they killed the passover”
What do you suppose that means if Lamb was not on the menu?
Please answer?
Jesus declared all foods, including all kinds of meat, to be clean (Mark 7:19).
Hi Procliamer,
FALSE! – it does not say unclean animals are clean to eat. It instead says:
what “you eat” will not defile you, but ‘what you say’. WILL DEFILE YOU!I hate it when people ‘twist Scripture’
“Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?” (Mark 7:19)Hi Miia, oh no ???
Context Context Context!
“And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover,
his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare
that thou mayest eat the passover?” (Mark 14:12)The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber,
where – I SHALL EAT – the passover with my disciples?” (Mark 14:14)“when they killed the passover”
What do you suppose that means if Lamb was not on the menu?Please answer?
Ed J, context context context!
Doesn’t say they DID sacrifice it, only that they were discussing preperation! And it depends what version you are using. AKJV thee, though, thy.
New International Version
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus’ disciples asked him, “Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?”Berean Study Bible
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus’ disciples asked Him, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?”Berean Literal Bible
And on the first day of unleavened bread, when they were to sacrifice the Passover lamb, His disciples say to Him, “Where do You desire that, having gone, we should prepare that You may eat the Passover?”Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And on the first day of Unleavened Bread, in which the Jews slaughter the Passover lamb, his disciples were saying to him, “Where do you want us to go to prepare for you that you may eat the Passover?”GOD’S WORD® Translation
Killing the Passover lamb was customary on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread. The disciples asked Jesus, “Where do you want us to prepare the Passover meal for you?”——————
And WHERE were they told to go and prepare…?
Continue reading.. I only see bread and wine mentioned there. Still does NOT explicitly say Jesus or the disciples ate lamb.13So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, “Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him. 14Say to the owner of the house he enters, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 15He will show you a large room upstairs, furnished and ready. Make preparations for us there.”
16The disciples left, went into the city and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.
17When evening came, Jesus arrived with the Twelve. 18While they were reclining at the table eating, he said, “Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me—one who is eating with me.”
19They were saddened, and one by one they said to him, “Surely you don’t mean me?”
20“It is one of the Twelve,” he replied, “one who dips bread into the bowl with me. 21The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
22While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body.”
23Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
24“This is my blood of the c covenant, which is poured out for many,” he said to them. 25“Truly I tell you, I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”
26When they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.
Not all flesh is the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another, and fish another. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies.
All these have flesh. We know he ate fish which is flesh. Possibly lamb too.
Yep t8, but fish is slightly different. It lives in the water for one, and doesn’t breathe air like we do.
As you say, Jesus did eat fish, but meat (non fish), is only assumed because nobody can show me yet where it explicitly shows Jesus eating meat.
Nice dodge, now will you answer my question…
“when they killed the passover”
What do you suppose that means if Lamb was not on the menu?
Please answer?
In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15)
t8, no he didn’t. It was a parable- the dream /food representing people /gentiles.
Paul even warns against such a doctrine of demons, requiring others to abstain from God-given food (1 Timothy 4:3).
Paul was.. slightly rebellious. Paul is contradictory – according to scholars even. Which is why I listen to Jesus my master FIRST, then Peter etc. As I say to everyone please don’t bring Paul into this!
Nice dodge, now will you answer my question like I asked?
“when they killed the passover”
What do you suppose that means if Lamb was not on the menu?Please answer?
Ed is not a dodge. Did you not read my reply to you? Please go back and read it again.
In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15)
t8, no he didn’t. It was a parable- the dream /food representing people /gentiles.
Hi Miia,
It’s good when we agree!
Of course that verse is not saying unclean animals are clean to eat!
Nice dodge, now will you answer my question like I asked?
“when they killed the passover”
What do you suppose that means if Lamb was not on the menu?Please answer?
Ed is not a dodge. Did you not read my reply to you? Please go back and read it again.
I so no answer to my question. Please re-post the part that “explicitly shows” an answer to my question
Notice how I used your words?
You are getting like Gene and Jodi,
they only jibber jabber their views into the conversation
all the while working hard to avoid answering the tough questions…in long drawn out propaganda speeches. Please do not be like them!
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