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Hi davidl,
You stand for truth?
Only in your own opinion it seems.
You cannot even admit to having three deities.
Can you have the Father alone, without the Son or the Spirit..??
Try not to avoid the question if you can help it.DavidL,
Nowhere in Scripture is it written that God would not exist with the Son. Since the Spirit is part of him it is absurd to suggest he could exist without part of himself.
Why the confusion…?
Do you not believe in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..??
Can’t you see that they are One in Unity..??Or is it really that you just don’t want to accept the Trinity is true..
and therefore make up all these strange excuses for rejecting it…??Hi davidl,
If you think it is true you do not know either the Father or the Son of God.
You are not of the Spirit of God.
Hi davidl,
Of course the Spirit of God is not another deity.
Your silence says it all.
So your trinity has just foundered on the rock of truth
Shipwrecked. 1tim 1.19
Hi davidl,
So now you only have two deities.
But is that correct?
You say Jesus is a DEITY
But scripture says in Colossians that the FULLNESS OF DEITY WAS IN HIM.
Big difference
As John said he was given the Spirit without measure.
The Spirit of God is what Colossians speaks of not being some sort of rival god.
Worship the God of Jesus
I know you desperately keep trying to put words in my mouth..
and align my beliefs with your own misconceptions of Catholic creeds..
(in an effort to make your ideas seem more palpable)..And what is my so-called ideas? That the Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is his son whom God made both Lord and Christ.
If this is impalpable to you, then you need to pray for revelation because this is the great truth and foundation of true faith.
For God can reveal truth including the meaning of scripture to you if you are struggling to understand it. You do not need the aid or prop of later doctrines that are not written. These will only take your eyes of who Jesus really is. Start by believing his own words.
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
The Trinity does not make God Son of Himself as you vainly try to construe..
Let’s test this then.
You say: Jesus is God. He is also the son of God. Thus he is either:
- The son of himself
- The son of the other God
Please clear up this confusion. If you cannot do it, then I guess you are confused and you need to pray for clarity.
Confused again…?!
According to the Athanasian Creed you posted…
“.. we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the Substance.. one altogether; not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person..”
…could it be that by confounding the Persons of the Trinity, you are transgressing the very doctrine you oppose and thus have become the author of your own confusion…?!?
Hi davidl,
Fine words.
But the words of men do not compare with the wisdom of God.
Scripture is the wisdom of God. lk 11.49
Davidl
Confused again…?!
According to the Athanasian Creed you posted…
“.. we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the Substance.. one altogether; not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person..”
…could it be that by confounding the Persons of the Trinity, you are transgressing the very doctrine you oppose and thus have become the author of your own confusion…?!?when you talk about the trinity you talk about God’s family ? if so their are more than three in God’s family
DavidL,
Three persons united as one person means that they are three persons whose actions and words are coordinated as if they were one person.
In short three gods acting and sounding as one God.
Hi,
Yes this concoction is not of God but of man.
The triumphant work of satan to get men everywhere insulting God
…could it be that by confounding the Persons of the Trinity, you are transgressing the very doctrine you oppose and thus have become the author of your own confusion…?!?
No.
I know you desperately keep trying to put words in my mouth..
and align my beliefs with your own misconceptions of Catholic creeds..
(in an effort to make your ideas seem more palpable)..No. You believe in the Trinity Doctrine. That doctrine is the Catholic Faith. Fullstop.
Hi,
So these are the steps not to take.
The footsteps of these men lead away from truth.
Not knowing the Spirit they wander into myth and evil speculation.
To all…the church was corrupted way before the trinity doctrine became it’s foundation in 325 ad. The trinity doctrine is just part of the final chuch corruptions, many false teachings began early on in church history, they were emerging in the time of the apostales John and Paul, who fought against them, trying to keep them from enfecting the early church. I.e. , antichrist’s teachings against the need for the man Jesus to have to be anointed by God inorder to do the work of God.
Paul prophecied of the churches crouption in 2ths2, they are those who believe the Gnostic’s “LIE”, that Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth, that he came from the PLORA OF THE GOD’S, that He was actually a God and only desguised as a man, but was actually a true God.
JESUS is the “only” man that has taken his seat in the temple of God, and that has been desplayed AND WORSHIPED AS A GOD. THIS FALSE “IMAGE” created by the fallen churches turns THE “IMAGE” OF JESUS INTO “A MAN OF SIN”,
FRIST COMMANDMENT “THOU SHALL HAVE “NO” OTHER GOD BESIDES ME. JUST THAT SIMPLE, WE “true believers” believe in ONLY “ONE” GOD AND “ONE” MEDERATOR BETWEEN THAT “ONE” GOD AND “MAN” “THE MAN” JESUS. THE ANOINTED ONE OF GOD.
He that has an ear let him hear.
Peace and love to all who know this…….gene
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