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Hi GB,
Hippocrates was a greek doctor.
Do you men hypocrites?
Whatever.Many scriptures added together do not necessarily make one truth
as all the varied denominations give testimony to.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 09 2008,21:16) Hi,
Some people cut and paste scriptures, then cobble them together and think they have found a truth.For example take 1Tim2
1 Tim. 2:4 …our saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to the realization of the truth.
Mix it with Is 46
10Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, 'My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';AHHAA
What God wants He will do and what he wants is that all be saved
and thus according to this concoction of two scriptures
ALL WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT GOD WANTS.Ahem.. Not so fast.
God has several possible expressions of His will.
He is not as black and white and as rigid as we are.
He is not confined by our clever concoctions of scripture.Rom12
2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
NIck.
You accuse others of picking and useing other scriptures to make their point. Yet you pick out one scripture in Romans, and fail to see it in context with of what Paul is saying. Just one example is just a few verses away in the previous chapter… For, who knew the mind of the Lord? or, who became His adviser?
35 or, who gives to Him first, and it will be repaid Him?
36 seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen!
I could give you many more in the book of Romans, but it would be of no use, you wouldn't acknowledge it any way.
So, you accuse others, but you are the master of twisting scripture. Shame on you.Nick ….I meant Hypocrites, You said, many scriptures added together do not necessarily make one truth, so then is it (YOU) who should decide for us if the many scripture are truth or a lie? Who gave (YOU) the authority to decide if what others say is true or not no matter how many scriptures they us to back up there position.
Nick…its one thing to disagree with some ones point of view, it quite another to act like you have superior Knowledge to them, when in fact you may not at all. You are closed off form learning from any one and feel free to condensed on other who don't hold your views.
You try to drag people to say something that will some how give you an edge in the conversation or draw them into saying some thing that might not be true.You need to examine you motives for what you are saying and doing and why you are.
Hi GB,
It is you who has constantly claimed superior knowledge and greater spiritual light.
The fruit seems to lack though and you need to relearn how to approach sacred scripture.
Reliance on opinion and inference and human wisdom shows lack of respect for the scripturesNick…..please show me my words of constantly claiming of superior knowledge and greater spiritual light. Can you produce proof of that if not then that proves what a lier you really are right. So Show us the proof of what you claim. And I don't need a novice to tell me how to approach scriptures, you are the one that needs to learn how to understand scripture , more then most here.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2008,12:59) Hi GB,
If I am a novice then what does that make you?
NIck…one who knows a novice when he see one.Hi GB,
So you are greater in understanding than us novices?
hmmm.Anyway put your mirror away and learn from scripture.
Your abuse of it is becoming legendary.Hi all.
I ran accross this item in a magazine from the U.K. and thought it may be of interest to some. It is titled “The Word of Truth, Rightly divided.“THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD”
JESUS CHRIST is… Shepherd and King.
THE GOSPEL DECLARES… Pardon and Forgiveness.
PREACHED… To the Lost sheep of the house of Israel.
THEME… Repent.
SCOPE… None, save the Jews only.
METHOD… Exhortation.
ADMINISTRATION… Law.
JUSTIFYING FACTOR… None, Law cannot justify.
SECURITY… He that endures to the end shall be saved.
STATUS… Israel is…a royal priesthood.
-now-
“THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD.”
CHRIST JESUS… Saviour and Head.
THIS GOSPEL DECLARES… Justification and Reconciliation.
PREACHED… For faith-obediance among the nations.
THEME… Be Reconciled.
SCOPE… All who believe.
METHOD… Entreaty.
ADMINISTRATION… Grace.
JUSTIFYING FACTOR… A righteousness of God through Jesus Christs' faith.
SECURITY… There is now no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus.
STATUS… We are Ambassadors of Christ.
I thought it a good example of the differences of the TWO GOSPELS. One must “correctly cut the word of truth. (2.Tim.2:15)
Blessings.
Hi Again.
If anyone is interested in the publication that this last post came from, it is called “Grace and Truth”, “A magazine for Gods' Word”. It has a website, http://www.gracetruth.com , if anyone is interested. This publication is published quarterly, and at no cost.Blessings.
Hi,
There is only one eternal gospel-of Jesus Christ.
Even if an angel brought another men should not listen[Gal1]Nick, Sorry, you are wrong once again. Jesus for “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matt.15:24). And Paul for the nations (Ro..15:16). Two different eras (eons), two different gospels. Study the post in “correctly cutting the word of truth”, you may finally learn some of scriptura truth.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2008,08:46) Hi,
There is only one eternal gospel-of Jesus Christ.
Even if an angel brought another men should not listen[Gal1]
Nick.
Please show the scripture that says “one eternal gospel of Jesus Christ for all”. that you repeatedly claim.I would be interested to read it for myself.
Blessings.
Really here is what the Bible is all about when you get down to the core.
God made us
We messed up
God saved us
Quote (chosenone @ July 14 2008,12:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2008,08:46) Hi,
There is only one eternal gospel-of Jesus Christ.
Even if an angel brought another men should not listen[Gal1]
Nick.
Please show the scripture that says “one eternal gospel of Jesus Christ for all”. that you repeatedly claim.I would be interested to read it for myself.
Blessings.
Hi Chosenone:I know that you addressed Nick with this question. I believe that he is referring to following scriptures:
Quote Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.God Bless
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2008,08:46) Hi,
There is only one eternal gospel-of Jesus Christ.
Even if an angel brought another men should not listen[Gal1]
Nick,
Again, the scripture you quote (I notice you didn't give the verse) is out of context of course. Gal.1:6-8. 6 I am marveling that thus, swiftly, you are transferred from that which calls you in the grace of Christ, to a different evangel,
7 which is not another, except it be that some who are disturbing you want also to distort the evangel of Christ.
8 But if ever we also, or a messenger out of heaven, should be bringing an evangel to you beside that which we bring to you, let him be anathema!
Notice it says …beside that which we (Paul) bring to you,…So, it excludes all EXCEPT the evangel of Paul, which is the evangel to the Nations. As opposed to Jesus for the lost sheep…
Your welcome.
Blessings.
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