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Very important for understanding scripture, many think all scripture is about us. All is for us, but not all is about us. This truth is ignored by many, thereby confusing the correct meaning of scripture.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
Exactly.
So we must join the US.
For US there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ..
Not for THEM of course who worship idols and serve other lords but only USJn10
9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.Hi Nick.
I thought Christ died for all mankind, paid our debt for all our transgressions, past, present, & future. Are we not “Justified” by this act?Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 31 2008,16:10) Hi Nick.
I thought Christ died for all mankind, paid our debt for all our transgressions, past, present, & future. Are we not “Justified” by this act?Blessings.
Hi CO,
No.
Faith is required.
Isaiah 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Galatians 3:8
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.Hi CO,
Rom10
14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
Many are called but few are chosen.
Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Matthew 20:15-17 (in Context) Matthew 20 (Whole Chapter)
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.Luke 7:11
And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:Hi Nick.
Our Saviour, God, saves us, “not for works which are wrought in righteousness which we do, but according to His mercy” (Titus 3:5). He does so, “through Jesus Christ, our Saviour, that, being justified in that One’s grace, we may be becoming enjoyers, in expectation, of the allotment of life eonian” (Titus 3:6,7).
We learn from Romans 4:5, concerning those who are believing, that God “is justifying the irreverent,” those who are “not working.” Likewise, we recognize that all those who are “called” become believers, for the Lord graciously “overwhelms” their unbelief with “faith and love in Christ Jesus” (1 Tim.1:14; cp v.16). Thus, “to those who are called, . . . Christ, the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Cor.1:24). Now those “whom He calls, He justifies also; now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also” (Rom.8:30).
How wonderful! Even though we have yet to grasp what it means to be “justified,” we have already learned that (1) Our calling itself entails the certainty of God’s gracious gift of faith to us; (2) God “justifies” us even though we are are irreverent and are not working righteousness; (3) Being now justified in Christ’s blood, we shall be saved from indignation, through Him (Rom. 5:9); and (4) Eonian life and glory is our happy expectation.Blessings
Nick, some additional truths to digest: Justification.
Now, from this grand perspective, let us seek to grasp the scriptural essence of the Greek verb dikaioõ, which, in English, is “justify.” First of all, let us note that the English adjective “just” (in Greek, dikaion) is the equivalent of the adjective “righteous,” which means, “to be conformed to right.” “Justify” is merely the verb corresponding to the adjective “just” or “right.” While there is no English verb which formally corresponds to the adjective “righteous,” nevertheless, the verb “justify” corresponds substantially to the adjective “righteous,” even as it is the formal correspondent of the adjective “just.”
“Justify” is used definitively, and very strikingly, in Luke 7. Jesus declared, “ ‘A greater prophet, among those born of women, than John the baptist, there is not one. Yet the smaller, in the kingdom of God is greater than he.’ And hearing, the entire people, even the tribute collectors, justify God, being baptized with the baptism of John” (Luke 7:28,29).
The entire people, “righteoused” God. That is, they declared Him to be righteous. Thus we see that “justification” is a pronouncement of righteousness. “Righteousness” is “the quality or state of being righteous, the status of one who is justified.” 1
Consequently, we learn that, as those who are “justified,” our status is that of, in some sense, actually being righteous. Thus, whenever we read of or reflect upon the fact that we are “justified,” let our conception be that we are “declared righteous,” and that by God Himself.Quote (chosenone @ April 01 2008,04:28) Hi Nick.
Our Saviour, God, saves us, “not for works which are wrought in righteousness which we do, but according to His mercy” (Titus 3:5). He does so, “through Jesus Christ, our Saviour, that, being justified in that One’s grace, we may be becoming enjoyers, in expectation, of the allotment of life eonian” (Titus 3:6,7).
We learn from Romans 4:5, concerning those who are believing, that God “is justifying the irreverent,” those who are “not working.” Likewise, we recognize that all those who are “called” become believers, for the Lord graciously “overwhelms” their unbelief with “faith and love in Christ Jesus” (1 Tim.1:14; cp v.16). Thus, “to those who are called, . . . Christ, the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Cor.1:24). Now those “whom He calls, He justifies also; now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also” (Rom.8:30).
How wonderful! Even though we have yet to grasp what it means to be “justified,” we have already learned that (1) Our calling itself entails the certainty of God’s gracious gift of faith to us; (2) God “justifies” us even though we are are irreverent and are not working righteousness; (3) Being now justified in Christ’s blood, we shall be saved from indignation, through Him (Rom. 5:9); and (4) Eonian life and glory is our happy expectation.Blessings
Hi CO,
I have seen before your justifications for your belief in salavtion for all.
They do not wash. Faith is of the essence and without it we cannot come to God.Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.We are not helpless puppets not expected to respond in faith to the saviour.
The grace for every response comes from God but we must walk while the light is with us.
Again, something you attribute to me, “I have seen your justification for your belief….” But you will never give the post of what it is. Just false accusations again and again, only inuendos. You are a master of “False Wittnesing”
Hi,
Some people cut and paste scriptures, then cobble them together and think they have found a truth.For example take 1Tim2
1 Tim. 2:4 …our saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to the realization of the truth.Mix it with Is 46
10Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, 'My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';AHHAA
What God wants He will do and what he wants is that all be saved
and thus according to this concoction of two scriptures
ALL WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT GOD WANTS.Ahem.. Not so fast.
God has several possible expressions of His will.
He is not as black and white and as rigid as we are.
He is not confined by our clever concoctions of scripture.Rom12
2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.Adam…..Nick thinks being conformed to this world is believing what the scriptures say. He thinks he can define What God is and What He isn't and if the words don't fit (Nick Gospel) He simple says that not what it means even if you give him 10 or more scripture He has a way of twisting them to (His gospel).
Adam just believe what the scriptures say and let the spirit guide you not some man and that includes me. If when you read you see some thing that might not make sense trust God and ask He will make it known to you and give you the understanding. Remember what i told you before watch out for these (religious log jams), lean on the Spirit it will teach you.
peace to you……….gene
Quote (chosenone @ April 01 2008,13:08) Again, something you attribute to me, “I have seen your justification for your belief….” But you will never give the post of what it is. Just false accusations again and again, only inuendos. You are a master of “False Wittnesing”
Chosenone……Amen to that! He is a twister of what a person is really saying and has set himself as some kind of authority on scriptures and is very judgmental epically if it does fit His own belief system ( Nicks gospel ) and doesn't mind lying about what you are saying and has no problem accusing people of something, if they don't see things His way. This distracts any forward advancement in understanding by him doing that, and causes people to not want to continue to discuss subjects.Peace to you and yours……..gene
Quote (gollamudi @ July 10 2008,02:17) Hi brother, who has done that?
Can truth be concealed?
Hi GM,
The Word is truth.Verses do support one another and we need to find support to find truth.
2Cor13
1This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.But we have no authority to to staple two verses together with logic and inference to assemble a doctrine.
Nick….then why do you do that? I remember when we were talking abut a subject and you used only of the same exact scriptures while i gave many scriptures. and one time i gave you 10 and you never coincided to the truth, And now you say this , but we have no authority to staple two verses together with logic and inference to assemble a doctrine, but you can do that right, isn't that a sign of lying Hippocrates.
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