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I’ve gotten into the habit of copying every single post before hitting the “Submit” button, because way too many times I’ve spent an hour writing a complicated response, only to find out that your site had logged me out during the course of that hour. And then all that work is gone forever, and I have to start over.
This is not normal. I never have that happen to me. I wonder if you have custom settings in the browser that logs you out after a time?
I request that you put my account on INFINITY LOG IN mode – so that your site NEVER again logs me off randomly. If the day comes that I want to log myself off of Heaven Net, I will do so manually. Thanks.
This is a function of your browser. Simply log in and click the save password option when logging in. You will only lose that when you delete cookies in your browser. Perhaps your browser is set to delete cookies and history when you close it down?
But even copying each post has a drawback, because when I log back in and paste it, I have to go through the entire thing and re-add the colors, the italics, the bold and underlines, the quotes, etc.
If you copy the post in text mode and paste it back in text mode, then all the code and colors are preserved 100%.
As I side note, every time that I do log back into your site, Chrome pops up a warning that my passwords have been compromised. I have only ever gotten this warning from Heaven Net. What’s up with that?
I get this when I use Microsoft’s Chrome browser. And with different websites. I guess it depends on the password right. The Heaven Net password may be compromised because that password has been discovered by a leak from another website. So you should get that message with any website that you log in with that particular password.
My advice is to change the password and then when you log in, click ‘Save Password’ just before clicking ‘Log In’. This means you should stay logged in. But if someone uses your device, then they can post as you.
You should be able to log in without saving the password though and not be logged out. Looks like you have to change the password though. Remember, that this message is coming from your browser and the browser has the problem with your password.
It has nothing to do with the Heaven Net site.
The Big Bang Idea (it’s by no means a scientific theory) posits that there was no God, Gene.
Logically, it actually proves the opposite. The only explanation is an external something (outside the universe) made everything from nothing. Therefore, there is a God because nothing does nothing. Only an external something or someone can create a universe.
Further, think of a virtual world. It starts from a singularity as the code boots up the processes to load the world. It seems similar because both are coded with laws or instructions. If a virtual character could think, they could conclude that their world came out of nothing.
The creators of virtual worlds are not part of their own creation. They exist outside of their world. Likewise with God. But he can inhabit his creation via his Spirit. And a creator of a virtual world can enter his world through an avatar.
Mike,
You said: but where did the water come from?
Perhaps this river of the water of life supplied the water that covered the earth.
Rev 22:1 Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,…
Regarding COVID, I haven’t partaken of the jab, nor have I had the dreaded virus but most of my family has had it. I don’t believe it is the mark of a beast but I am suspicious of the onset and the agenda. I had a doctor friend die of it. He was brilliant.
Btw, I don’t believe that before God said “let there be light” that light didn’t exist. I just believe that it didn’t enter this created realm until that instant.
I showed you that in a minute or so (using the simple editor that came with my laptop), I could not only place the volcano on a globe earth – but a globe earth that was in the process of being struck by a huge asteroid. The point was to show you that just because you see an image of a ball earth doesn’t mean the image is a real photograph – and therefore doesn’t prove that we live on a ball.
Likewise, when I post a photo of kangaroos jumping, that doesn’t prove that Australia exists.
Next thing I know, you’re implying that I don’t think Australia exists, that I don’t think the volcanic eruption was real, and that I don’t think Phoenix (WHERE I LIVE!) exists. What the heck?
You missed the point again. Don’t worry about it Mike. I will try and make it simpler going forward. People had a hard time trying to figure out what Jesus was saying. I thought my points were way less cryptic than his. Nevermind.
What if NASA was to educate you on how those images of the globe earth are produced? This is only a 2 minute excerpt of the interview with NASA artist Rob Simmons – who created the iconic “Blue Marble” that used to be the wallpaper on all of the Apple iPhones.
Lol. Not this argument again.
I’m aware that photos need to be stitched together as you have to be a long way out before you see the ball. I am also aware that some pics are taken using wavelengths that are beyond visible light. So they bring these wavelengths back into the visible spectrum. Big deal. This is not deception at all. It is a clever way to see what our eyes are incapable of seeing.
Thank you so much for FINALLY addressing (albeit not actually answering) my simple question. Unfortunately, so far it seems as if you are trying to make the case that the words, “In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth” refer to God creating land. I’m pretty sure that those words don’t mean, “In the beginning, God created the heaven and the LAND PART OF the earth“. I’m fairly certain that they refer to God creating the ENTIRE heaven and the ENTIRE earth. And I’m quite convinced that the case you (and Gene) are trying to make in an attempt to have BIG SCIENCE agree with the Bible is solidly refuted by Peter
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Wait a minute… so after trying to make a case that the words “God created the heaven and the earth” refer to God creating the land part of the earth, you are now making the case that Genesis 1:1-2 are describing a water world after all?
God created the heavens and the earth a long time ago. Probably way longer than you believe.
After that, he made earth appear that was under the water.
He also made light appear on the surface perhaps when the atmosphere allowed sunlight to penetrate the clouds / water in the atmosphere.
So you have a greater statement at the beginning that God created all things. Sun, Moon, our planet, other planets etc.
After that, you have specific stages where earth and light appear on this planet to prepare the way for the appearance of life and eventually mankind.
This is why some people get confused about the timing of light and earth. The very first verse has already established that the heavens and earth exist. So the rest of the things God does is about our planet specifically.
So within a single year, we have BIG SCIENCE telling us that the earth was formed from a swirling cloud of dust – with the earth’s rocky core forming first… AND that the earth began as a water world with little to no land in sight.
Now, you have the choice to accept the water world account as the truth, and claim that BIG SCIENCE and the Bible agree… but to do that, you’ll have to acknowledge that BIG SCIENCE was 100% WRONG for the previous 6 decades, and that BIG SCIENCE is also WRONG in the article I linked from 17 days ago.
It matters not to me what big science says here. God created the heavens and the earth is what I believe. God is also invisible. If you could witness the creation of the earth for example, it might look like what big science says or it might not. Regardless, creation came about from fundamental laws and the word of God. God is the lawgiver after all. This is how God speaks sometimes. Laws are instructions or commands that things are subject to or obey.
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.”
I was hoping you’d accept the water world account because it’s the account that GOD gave us
Already accepted. God created all the land the terrafirma / rocks / dirt / however you want to explain it. That which is below our feet. It seems that all of that was covered in water and the Spirit of God hovered over the deep. The land which was submerged emerged above water when that water receded. Could have been freezing water at the poles or water seeping inside the planet. Whatever. We are told that all water could cover the whole earth if it was completely flat. But we have high mountains and plateaus that stick out above the oceans. If land was made available because water receded then yes, land came out of water. This doesn’t mean it is made of water though.
In simplest terms, water makes up about 71% of the Earth’s surface, while the other 29% consists of continents and islands. … If you could melt all that ice, and the Earth’s surface was perfectly smooth, the sea levels would rise to an altitude of 2.7 km.
https://phys.org/news/2014-12-percent-earth.htmDid you know that I was reading another recent NASA article just last week that said we KNOW that the earth was formed from a swirling cloud of dust because of rocks?
Your water world article was published less than a year ago. The following NASA article was published 17 days ago…
Mike, you are way out of your depth. These are two different periods. One is the creation of the whole earth (planet if we want to use a modern term) as it would appear from our eyes. The other is after the planet is created. All the land / planet is covered in water sometime later, then land emerges out of the water. So you now have a separation of water and land / earth.
Even today I use the word ‘earth’ to refer to the whole mass of the object we live on. I also refer to it as the land sometimes as opposed to water. Regardless, I am fully aware that under all that water lies land or earth.
Those two articles are not contradictory Mike. They may or may not be correct, but they are not contradictory because they are talking about two completely different times.
And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. … God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Mike, if you think that land is actually made out of water then demonstrate it. Get some land and turn it back to water. I can do that with ice or gas. Why not try and do that with land Mike? Why not make a YouTube video on it. You could monetize it as it would get millions of views if you could do that. Good luck.
Mike……Many scientists to day believe in a creator, and the more they discover , they become more and more convinced that the creation was a caused event. Even many Geneticist to day because of the Genome project have come to believe in a designer because of the complexity’s involved in our present creation, every day more and more are, based on scientific “evidence” being discovered which is solidly proving a creator. So your false “assumptions” that “all” the scientific communities doesn’t believe in a Creator is false.
Saying “the things that appear are made up of thing that are not seen”, doesn’t conflict with Science at all, because they have already “proven” that, many years ago, with solid scientific evidence.Mike therein lies you problem, you have set your mind to not believe in solid scientific evidences. That is why you can’t bring yourself to even believe we live on a round ball or sphere exactly like “ALL” the other planets in our solar system, you even reject 24/7 proofs being given you every single second of every day, by the “International Space Station”, circling our Planet constantly sending photos to us every single second of every day. Your “conspiracy” theorist mindset, will not let in, even solid scientific evidence of any kind it seems, even if it is right in front of your very own eyes, You think it’s a “conspiracy “, some one trying to trick you. No Mike, everything is not someone trying to trick us about our earth being a round sphere moving in it’s orbit around the sun. It’s just your own mindset playing tricks on yourself. IMO, and nearly everyone else in this entire world also.
peace and love to you and yours Mike………gene
Gene is correct. Science is pointing to God more and more.
It use to be that scientists believed that the universe was not that finely tuned, thus was a coincidence albeit a big one. But there have been a number of developments where the measurements for the strength of gravity, the formation of carbon, the stability of DNA, and the expansion rate of the universe are so precise that if they were just slightly out, there would be no universe and life as we know it.
The numbers are so precise that we are talking about numbers or odds greater than all the atoms in the known universe.
Scientists are then forced to either accept that there is an intelligent creator or to believe in a theory that has no evidence whatsoever but gives them a partial excuse for not believing in God. That theory is the Multiverse which was proposed a long time ago but was largely ignored. It has risen to popularity lately due to the discoveries of fine tuning as offering the only explanation for a finely tuned universe without a creator.
This theory posits that there are an infinite amount of universes. Thus, there should exist one universe that has our numbers within an infinite set. There could also be more than one, even an infinite amount too as infinity can easily produce infinity. Think of the whole number set and then only even numbers. Both are infinite.
However, the Multiverse theory even if true doesn’t dispose of God. Such a system itself cannot arise from nothing. It seems that the best atheists can do is place the problem further back. They show how the universe is possible in a multiverse, and hope you do not ask them how the multiverse got started.
Science has proved God beyond doubt. But carry on with the Flat Earth that they want you to believe in so they can label your faith as foolish. That way they can legitimately discredit you and by extension, reject your gospel.
Hi Mike.
The lizard people hid the flat earth from us, and now their false theory about the expanding universe has proven God beyond doubt. Looks like they should just front up now and show us the flat earth as that is a better theory for disproving God. Because a sophisticated alien race could have create a flat disk world and placed us there. Whereas, a near eternal universe shows the eternal God’s power and majesty. This didn’t end well for the lizard people’s agenda did it?
This doesn’t agree with the stats that the New Zealand government put out.
It doesn’t speak about Germany per se, rather global, US, and NZ stats. It is also focused on those below 40 years of age.
Globally, the rate appears to be highest in younger men (aged 18-24 years) and after the second dose. The rate estimated from confirmed cases in health databases in the USA was 8 per million for 12-39 year olds after dose 2 (the estimated rate with the Moderna vaccine was higher in this analysis).4 Myocarditis occurred mostly within 4 days but in a few cases up to 14 days after vaccination.
The United States was among the first countries starting to vaccinate people from 12 years of age with Comirnaty. Currently the rate estimated from confirmed cases in health databases in the USA was 8 per million for 12-39 year olds after dose 2. The rate was higher at 23 cases per million in 12-39 year olds when unconfirmed cases were included in the estimate (this rate was in males, there were no cases reported in females).4 The overall rate across all ages and both sexes currently remains at less than 1 in a million3. Myocarditis and pericarditis reactions have also been reported for other COVID-19 vaccines, such as Moderna, and to a much lesser extent AstraZeneca and Janssen vaccines.
Up to 19 July 2021, the Centre for Adverse Reactions Monitoring (CARM) has received 9 cases of myocarditis, 5 cases of pericarditis and 4 cases of myopericarditis. Eight of the cases involved male vaccinees. Not all the cases reported to date were admitted to hospital. Cases reported to CARM are being reviewed by the Independent Safety Monitoring Board. To date there has been no clear increase in cases of myocarditis in New Zealand.
https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/safety/Alerts/comirnaty-myocarditis-alert.htm
Now it should be clear to anyone that this decades old BIG SCIENCE account doesn’t align with the Biblical account, right?
Yes this is what I am also questioning here. Which one is correct?
Now it should be clear to anyone that this decades old BIG SCIENCE account doesn’t align with the Biblical account, right?
A simple outline that agrees with Genesis and Science follows:
- God created the heavens and the earth. Logically speaking for something to happen, there has to be a cause. And the first thing had to be eternal or everything came from nothing which is impossible. Further, life comes from life. What follows is what happens on planet earth.
- Light penetrates the surface of the planet perhaps due to less water in the atmosphere. Actually science tells us that the atmosphere on the early earth was choked up from super volcanic explosions for a long time. The atmosphere eventually clears and sunlight hits the surface. “Let there be light”.
- Once sunlight hits the surface, the water cycle powers up and the result of this and plate tectonics is land appearing from the sea. Water freezing the poles, etc.
- Once land and sea are separated and bathed in light, sea life can exist and plants can grow on land.
- The result of plants interacting with the air and other factors leads to a clearer atmosphere allowing the stars to appear in the sky and the composition suits the creation of land animals.
- Finally man is created and lives in harmony in a natural paradise.
- Man falls and is cast out of paradise and has to work the land for a living. (Farming).
- Farming leads to trade and civilization which creates the need for written language.
- Man populates and subdues the earth as commanded by God in the beginning.
- The result of many civilizations, languages, and tribes leads to conflicts and wars and ungodly empires.
As you can see, this is Genesis and Revelations in a very small nutshell. It agrees with science and history and it is not a stretch to believe either.
As for the bible teaching the flat earth. That is bull if you are honest with yourself. No one can provide even one decent verse. The no1 verse is the circle of the earth verse. Hilarious. That works for a sphere dummies. A sphere by definition is a 3D circle and no one is implying that the earth is 2 dimensional. That said, it is probably just a reference to the horizon which appears as a circle from our point of view. But I digress.
If you still want science and Genesis to contradict, then I don’t think you are being honest because you have an agenda and do not wish to be reasonable as a result.
Berean: [16] For by him (Jesus)were all things created…
Okay… but is the Bible correct that (Jesus) created the earth from water? Or is BIG SCIENCE correct that the earth began as molten magma derived from a swirling cloud of space dust?
That’s the question I’m asking here, Berean. What do you think? Who is correct? The Bible? Or BIG SCIENCE?
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