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- September 15, 2021 at 11:48 pm#890475gadam123Participant
I have no idea what you mean by that Adam, lol.
I thought you did not believe the book of Revelations was relevant to today?
Sorry sis Karmarie, I was commenting on your repeated posts against COVID Vaccine and also on the so called predictions of the book of Revelation.
Vegetarianism/non-vegetarianism are nothing to do with our spirituality. It all depends on how you are brought up and following certain diets. But these days people are more health conscious and are turning towards Vegetarianism. The video you have posted is much nasty and disgusting. I don’t appreciate these people who want to prove that the non-vegetarianism is something to be hated. In fact the Bible started with pure Vegetarianism in Gen 1 and God allowed meat eating in Gen 9. So both are God given and we need not hate anyone for the sake of food.
September 16, 2021 at 10:38 am#890482MiiaParticipantHi Adam. The video had NOTHING to do with vegetarianism, but animal torture and cruelty in China, which is everywhere there. Why do you keep saying they are trying to promote something? They are trying to wake the world up! Just like Marc Ching and others.
Now can we please get back to topic? Is the vaccine the mark of the beast. Everyone here seems to say ‘no’. I say ‘it could very well be’.
Now do you Adam believe in the book of Revelation? Is it relevant to today? Yes or no is sufficient, thanks Adam.
September 16, 2021 at 11:40 am#890487mikeboll64BlockedMiia: Hi Mike! Good points… I follow this almost obsessively daily.
Prayer and peace is good.
This has become a very enlightening thread. You and I see it the same way for the most part (“The Greek word for sorcery is pharmakeia…”, “graphene oxide”, etc.).
Very evil people are clearly in the process of a very evil scheme, and it pains me to know that there are so many people like Proclaimer and Gene whose only info on the matter comes from a blind trust of MSM sources – all of whom benefit greatly from the scheme.
I’ll be back this weekend to share some non-MSM facts.
September 16, 2021 at 2:24 pm#890488gadam123ParticipantNow do you Adam believe in the book of Revelation? Is it relevant to today? Yes or no is sufficient, thanks Adam.
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my post. Every spiritual writings are relevant for any time as long as they are not taken literally. But the so called predictions are no longer relevant for our timeline as the writer of Revelation clearly written “time is near” Please read the following verses
Rev 1:
3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of the prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and who keep what is written in it; for the time is near.
9 I, John, your brother who share with you in Jesus the persecution and the kingdom and the patient endurance, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. 10 I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet 11 saying, “Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamum, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Rev 12:
12 Rejoice then, you heavens
and those who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
for the devil has come down to you
with great wrath,
because he knows that his time is short!”Rev 22:
6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true, for the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.”
7 “See, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
20 The one who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.”
If you read the above verses and few others which I have not quoted here. The book was written to a particular audience in the First Century CE and with great urgency of the matter. I don’t think the word “soon” is for 2000 or 3000 years in distant future.
This is my opinion on Revelation.
September 17, 2021 at 7:23 am#890494GeneBalthropParticipantMiia……if you really understood how those vaccines work to train our existing immune systems to attack those “live” viruses , I believe you would get them Sis. They do not vaccinate you with “live viruses” . The vaccine is made up of designed molecules that trains our immune systems to attack those specific Molecules , and when that happens , it gets rid of all the vaccine you received , but our immune system retains the memory of how to attack those specific molecules if they appear in your blood system again, as “live virus” for a certain amount of time, then the protection dies off, Then you must be revaccinated again. If you still want the protection again.
I get my flue shots every year. Have for years, and they are very effective Sis. As we get older our immune systems get weaker and weaker.peace and love to you and yours………gene
September 17, 2021 at 8:49 am#890495BereanParticipantHi Gadam
If you read the above verses and few others which I have not quoted here. The book was written to a particular audience in the First Century CE and with great urgency of the matter. I don’t think the word “soon” is for 2000 or 3000 years in distant future.
This is my opinion on Revelation
Gadam
Revelation was WRITTEN for the first servants of God until the last servants of God , because Jesus has not yet returned to reap his faithful people and harvest their enemies (see chapter 14: 13-20) see also REVELATION 19.
Revelation speaks a language of urgency, solemnity, gravity, from beginning to end. We must be ready TODAY for the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. Death can surprise us all, and at our resurrection we will not have not seen the time pass …. We will be resurrected either for life or for judgment. (John 5: 25-29)
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.(last verse of Revelation)
AMEN !
September 17, 2021 at 10:55 am#890496ProclaimerParticipantWhy would it make it dangerous if the vaccine worked (and protected you against the un-vaccinated)? Why the need for boosters already? Why is it not working against the Delta variant? What of future variants?
The argument is simple. If enough people get vaccinated and we get herd immunity, then there is nowhere for the virus to go and it will mostly die off. This mean it has a way less chance of mutating.
So long as there are enough unvaccinated people out there, the virus will have a comfortable home and can mutate. Then it will attack the vaccinated too because it is mutating into different strains and we will need new boosters etc. It effects everyone is the argument.
It’s a bit like cancer. If you get rid of 70% of it, then the 30% will still get you in the end. The problem we are having now is that the virus has already mutated and the vaccines efficacy is waning slowly because of the amount of unvaccinated hosts giving the virus hosts in which to spread.
That is the argument.
September 17, 2021 at 2:01 pm#890499gadam123ParticipantSo long as there are enough unvaccinated people out there, the virus will have a home and can mutate. Then it will attack the vaccinated too because it is mutating into different strains and we will need new boosters etc.
Yes I appreciate the post of Proclaimer on COVID Vaccine above. I request Miia, Mike and others to go for Vaccine and save themselves and others.
It is really a myth thinking that the COVID Vaccine is the Mark of the so called Beast.
September 17, 2021 at 2:15 pm#890501ProclaimerParticipantYes, Adam. However, it is complicated too. If people just do what the government says all the time, then our freedoms will go out the window. Further, I do not believe in forced vaccinations. If that happens even though the outcome might be good, it will lead to forced other things that won’t be good. And I think only one person here thinks it is the Mark or potentially the Mark.
Here is an interesting look at other viruses that have plagued mankind.
September 20, 2021 at 2:06 pm#890577MiiaParticipantI request Miia, Mike and others to go for Vaccine and save themselves and others.
So the vaccine is the new savior?
No thanks. I would rather trust my true savior. Amen!
September 20, 2021 at 2:26 pm#890578MiiaParticipantHi Adam. You said:
the so called predictions are no longer relevant for our timeline as the writer of Revelation clearly written “time is near” Please read the following verses
I believe the book of Revelations is relevant to the past, the present and the future.
Revelations is not written in chronological order, and uses repetition. Imagine if you will standing in a round room, with multiple movie scenes displayed on the wall all around. You look at one and see ‘this’, look at another and see ‘that’, and write it all down.
‘The time is at hand” or near. To God, what is time compared to how we see time. Yes, it is now at hand because He is coming!
September 20, 2021 at 2:28 pm#890579MiiaParticipantGood scripture. Amen, Berean!
September 20, 2021 at 2:36 pm#890580MiiaParticipantMiia……if you really understood how those vaccines work to train our existing immune systems to attack those “live” viruses , I believe you would get them Sis. They do not vaccinate you with “live viruses” . The vaccine is made up of designed molecules that trains our immune systems to attack those specific Molecules , and when that happens , it gets rid of all the vaccine you received , but our immune system retains the memory of how to attack those specific molecules if they appear in your blood system again, as “live virus” for a certain amount of time, then the protection dies off, Then you must be revaccinated again. If you still want the protection again.
I get my flue shots every year. Have for years, and they are very effective Sis. As we get older our immune systems get weaker and weaker.peace and love to you and yours………gene
Hi Gene.
Flu vaccine is okay. My dad gets the flu vaccine. This is different though. This is using a whole new technology NEVER USED ON PEOPLE BEFORE. Human trails end in 2023. People are basically guinea pigs. They ARE the trail. Now they are trying to manipulate KIDS to have it, against their parents wills. They shut up all opposers with censoring. They are painting a perfect picture all over the web, that it is safe and trustworthy. Nobody can get the truth. Furthermore, they pretend damages and deaths are not related. Very deceitful, bro.
September 20, 2021 at 2:38 pm#890581MiiaParticipantThis has become a very enlightening thread. You and I see it the same way for the most part (“The Greek word for sorcery is pharmakeia…”, “graphene oxide”, etc.).
Very evil people are clearly in the process of a very evil scheme, and it pains me to know that there are so many people like Proclaimer and Gene whose only info on the matter comes from a blind trust of MSM sources – all of whom benefit greatly from the scheme.
I’ll be back this weekend to share some non-MSM facts.
Hi Mike.
Cool. Can only warn. People listen or they do not.
September 20, 2021 at 2:40 pm#890582MiiaParticipantTo all.
Can anyone show me a scripture that says you have to knowingly take the mark of the beast (i.e., that it will not be done through deception).
September 20, 2021 at 2:48 pm#890583MiiaParticipantThe argument is simple. If enough people get vaccinated and we get herd immunity, then there is nowhere for the virus to go and it will mostly die off. This mean it has a way less chance of mutating.
So long as there are enough unvaccinated people out there, the virus will have a comfortable home and can mutate. Then it will attack the vaccinated too because it is mutating into different strains and we will need new boosters etc. It effects everyone is the argument.
It’s a bit like cancer. If you get rid of 70% of it, then the 30% will still get you in the end. The problem we are having now is that the virus has already mutated and the vaccines efficacy is waning slowly because of the amount of unvaccinated hosts giving the virus hosts in which to spread.
That is the argument.
Proclaimer,
Which is what the media /governments want the world to think with their propaganda. Turn the world against the unvaccinated. It is now our fault why there are lockdowns etc. If the vaccine worked, you would not need to worry about us.
What is probably happening is the vaccine is destroying the natural immune system against the new variants.
Perhaps Delta is caused by the vaccine.
September 20, 2021 at 2:56 pm#890584MiiaParticipantDestroyed natural covid immunity, like this (older video)
September 20, 2021 at 3:43 pm#890585gadam123ParticipantSo the vaccine is the new savior?
No thanks. I would rather trust my true savior. Amen!
Hi Sis Karmarie, good to know your decision on taking the COVID Vaccine. But God was not against science and medicine.
September 20, 2021 at 3:46 pm#890586gadam123Participant‘The time is at hand” or near. To God, what is time compared to how we see time. Yes, it is now at hand because He is coming!
This is the speculation of Christianity thinking that “time is at hand” is for distant future 2000 , 3000 years or even unending for those so called predictions. But sadly history proves they are wrong.
September 20, 2021 at 7:30 pm#890589MiiaParticipantTo all, Please watch this (to the end). A Doctor’s Grave Warning for Israel. (Click on the gold link)
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