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Proclaimer: So what… we are opening up once vaccination rates hit a certain number. It’s already starting… so our freedoms will appear again. I would only truly be worried if they were not given back. Then I would be onboard with your view on this point.
You apparently can’t even hear yourself. You’re excited at the notion that some other human being might just GIVE you your rights BACK! You don’t seem upset – or even able to comprehend – that your God-given rights were never his to TAKE away from you in the first place!
You are also completely oblivious to the divide-and-conquer warfare they’re waging against you right now. Eventually, sheep like you will start attacking the unvaxxed (verbally – and then physically) because “THEY” are the bastards who are preventing you from hitting the magic “Vaxxed Percentage” – which is keeping your MASTERS from GIVING you back the rights YOU should have NEVER willingly relinquished to them in the first place!
And you are unable to think logically, and so you’ll play right into their hand because you are simply unable to open your eyes and SEE what they’re doing.
Make no mistake, they don’t intend to EVER give you back the rights that YOU willingly relinquished to them. Instead, they will make YOU do their dirty work by telling you that you need to convince the unvaxxed to get vaxxed – using whatever means necessary. And if one of you gets a little carried away trying to convince one of the “touters” and kills them, no problem. No charges, no fines because you were trying to help save NZ after all, right? And once the rest of NZ realizes that they can MURDER the unvaxxed with no consequences, many of them will – because, like you, they already blame these losers who “touted the rules” for their current dismal situation anyway, right? So it will become easy for them to say, “Either get the vax or die at my hands right now – because YOU are preventing the Masters from giving me back my freedoms!”
Yeah… you won’t ever be getting your freedoms back. It was never about a virus or a vaccine. It has ALWAYS been about complete and utter control of the useless eaters. You have already given them a bunch of that control. And if you don’t immediately start joining with the unvaxxed freedom fighters to take back what was never theirs to take in the first place, it will be too late for you.
Proclaimer: You missed the point completely.
It’s you who is missing the point. But don’t worry… it will become very clear to you before long.
And in case you haven’t heard, just as Fauci forewarned that we’d have a China virus pandemic (two years before they created it), our buddy Bill Gates has just announced that we’ll soon experience a smallpox pandemic! The US is already stockpiling the vaccines. Seriously!
Will you be the first in line to get the new smallpox vax too (since the one you got as a kid is somehow now not quite good enough)? Or perhaps you’ll push for a total lockdown again, thinking that you can HIDE from a virus?
Face it dude, thanks to the extreme numbers of easily fooled and controlled sheep like you and Adam that the Covid hoax exposed, the deep state won’t ever stop with the new “viruses” now – until they have the total control over the useless eaters that they’ve wanted for so long.
It’s you who is missing the point. But don’t worry… it will become very clear to you before long.
You are the one who doesn’t understand that if you do not pay fines, you can have assets ceased. The general public didn’t complain about this before Covid-19. Been there for years.
Please, for the love of God and freedom, at least take 6 little minutes to listen to this professor…
She ends with this slide…
… and this brilliant statement:
If the vaccines don’t prevent infection and transmission, surely mandating Person A to protect Person B is pointless. But if the vaccines are effective in preventing infection, transmission, increased symptoms, hospitalization rates and death, then what do the vaccinated fear?
Be better than the world
Yes Mike, there is a Deep State. The proof was in the organised attack against Donald Trump by the Dems, some Republicans, the MSM, Social Media, and many other organisations and institutions. And yes, I have never trusted Bill Gates. He has been a monopolist and elitist for decades.
That said, I do not want to become unbalanced by swinging unnecessary too far the other way.
The truth is not on the extremes on the Left or Right. This is what some want you to do Mike. They want you fighting the Left and they want The Left fighting the right. And being extreme is what they want of you.
What they can’t handle are people who seek out the truth. Who are balanced. Who do not hate groups because of their labels.
If we are children of God, we are better than the children of this world. We should not be acting like them. We should be patient, kind, loving, and truthful. If we are reactionary, then we are being controlled. They simply do this and they know you will do that. So if they want that from you, they will do this.
Understand what these two verses are telling you.
“The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.'”
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Vaccines help Mike.
They do not purport to be the cure or 100% safe.
They have been effective if you look at history.
I prefer to have some antibodies ready to attack Covid-19 than not if I come into contact with the virus.
It’s as simple as that and your arguments do not address this.
Proclaimer: You are the one who doesn’t understand that if you do not pay fines, you can have assets ceased.
I fear you are a lost cause. Do you understand that a mask can’t stop a virus? Do you understand that it’s like trying to keep mosquitos out of your yard with a chain link fence, since viruses are much smaller than the openings between the fibers of the masks? Do you understand that masks are not only very harmful (since you’re re-breathing in the toxins that your body exhales), but that it’s utterly tyrannical for any government to try and force people to wear these useless face diapers?
So just pretend for a second that you are an educated person who knows that they don’t work and that they can actually hurt you, so you refuse to take part in the charade. Let’s say you’re a logical thinking truth seeker who has already seen hours of footage of the “elite” wearing masks until they think the cameras are done, and then immediately taking them off. And more footage of them dining and partying without masks in the very clubs that THEY require masks to be worn in.
Is their fine against you justified for not only exercising your common sense, but simply doing what they themselves do? And then if you don’t pay their tyrannical, unconstitutional and unlawful fine, is it okay for them to take money from your bank or your property?
You are on the wrong side of this. You should just stop already.
Proclaimer: I do not want to become unbalanced by swinging unnecessary too far the other way.
If that was true, then you would accept what I’m showing you and say things like, “That’s interesting info that I didn’t know. I’ll dig deeper into it… you might just be onto something.”
Instead, you fight me tooth and nail, bending over backwards to SUPPORT Draconian rules like lockdowns and masks that can’t possibly help because YOU. CAN’T. HIDE. FROM. A. VIRUS!
Proclaimer, your own statement above identifies you as one of these people whom Jesus condemned…
Rev 3:15-16… I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! So because you are lukewarm— neither hot nor cold— I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!
You just described yourself exactly like these people!
Time is running out. You’d better get on the right side of this before it’s too late.
Proclaimer: Vaccines help Mike… It’s as simple as that and your arguments do not address this.
I have addressed it many times, and you “keep on hearing, but do not understand; keep on seeing, but do not perceive.” (Is 6:9)
Let’s start with one so easy that even you can comprehend it…
Proclaimer, how do you KNOW that the Covid vaccine that YOU personally had injected into you prevents you from getting, spreading, becoming hospitalized with, or dying from Covid 19? How do you KNOW that it helps you regarding Covid in any way, shape or form?
Let’s see if you can answer that simple one. (Hint: The only honest answer is: “Well, come to think of it, I don’t actually KNOW any such thing.” Let’s see if you can be honest enough to make that undeniably true statement before moving on.)
Adam: Yes Mike is scaring people with his random data and pouring of unwanted stuff as he is scared of COVID vaccine.
Adam! Hey man. I didn’t expect to see you back here after I presented the evidence that UP, India was only 5% vaxxed when they started mass distribution of Ivermectin – which then wiped Covid from the face of the province. 🤣
Of course this is common knowledge now – but logical thinking should have told you that if the vaxxes DON’T prevent infection or transmission, and Ivermectin DOES wipe out Covid in about 48 hours, then it was clearly the Ivermectin that cleaned up UP.
But thanks for chiming in with your useless rhetoric. Get back to us when you can actually refute anything that I’m sharing here, okay?
So Gene and Proclaimer, is an mRNA injection a “vaccine” or not? It seems that the CDC knew it wasn’t, and so set about CHANGING the definition of “vaccine” just for these brand new mRNA injections. You can see the actual emails if you click on the link below.
https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine?justPublished=true
You apparently can’t even hear yourself. You’re excited at the notion that some other human being might just GIVE you your rights BACK! You don’t seem upset – or even able to comprehend – that your God-given rights were never his to TAKE away from you in the first place!
Yes, and with the added bonus of having some antibodies to fight the virus if it comes my way.
Your way is freedom but no antibodies unless you survive.
You know Mike, back in Jesus time, there were lepers. They lived on the outskirts of town ♫. Jesus healed one or more of them. I suppose your strategy would have been to let the lepers pass on the virus to everyone because freedom. And I don’t remember ever reading about Jesus condemning leper colonies. It was a practical solution to keep the population safer.
Of course today if we are in isolation, we have homes, TVs, Internet, etc. Not that bad really. Back then, lepers had to scavenge for food.
Ask yourself this question. Should the lepers have risen up and marched through the streets in the name of freedom? And if they came toward your kids, would you push them back to protect your kids or just let them into your house because of freedom.
Proclaimer: BTW, the stats in the above post mean nothing. Are they deaths or hospitalizations or what?
It clearly says CASES, right? It’s showing that the VAXXED are being diagnosed with many more cases of Covid 19 than the unvaxxed.
Proclaimer: And if way more people are vaccinated than non-vaccinated, then statistically, vaccinated should show up more due to making up the bulk of the population.
Of course, because we have way more cases of polio among the BILLIONS of vaxxed than the millions of unvaxxed, right? 🙄
Of course because the Polio vaccine is more effective for a number of reasons.
Covid vaccines lose their efficacy because it is not eradicated and the virus is mutating. Plus the vaccines were developed quickly. There is plenty of room for improvement.
But guess what. If we eradicated Covid-19 to the same degree as Polio, then there would be little to no chance of the virus mutating right? That is the ideal proposition. Thank you for pointing out Polio. Good point.
I fear you are a lost cause. Do you understand that a mask can’t stop a virus? Do you understand that it’s like trying to keep mosquitos out of your yard with a chain link fence, since viruses are much smaller than the openings between the fibers of the masks? Do you understand that masks are not only very harmful (since you’re re-breathing in the toxins that your body exhales), but that it’s utterly tyrannical for any government to try and force people to wear these useless face diapers?
I see. So when you sneeze, you do that in people’s faces or in front of people because lifting up your arm or using a handkerchief is a mere gesture.
Proclaimer, your own statement above identifies you as one of these people whom Jesus condemned…
Rev 3:15-16… I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! So because you are lukewarm— neither hot nor cold— I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!Your statement is mixing up two things. One is scientific understanding. Since your view is the earth is flat, that puts your understanding of science into serious disrepute.
The other is faith in God. I think you have that. But I also think you should listen to God more and do what it is that he has for you as that is of utmost importance. I do not believe God called you to discuss science. I think you are wasting your life with science. Return to your first love.
Proclaimer: Your way is freedom but no antibodies unless you survive.
I’m willing to bet that you don’t have any more Covid antibodies than I do. If you were not harmed by your injections, then chances are that you got the placebo saline solution. Go get a blood test. They’ll be able to see the spike protein antibodies if you actually got the vax. Let us know what you find out.
Proclaimer: You know Mike, back in Jesus time, there were lepers… I suppose your strategy would have been to let the lepers pass on the virus to everyone because freedom.
You can’t really be this unable to think logically, can you? My son got Covid and was really sick for a week. I dropped food and medicine at his door. I did not go in, nor did he in his infectious state go galivanting around town spreading his illness.
So yes, if you ARE SICK WITH Covid (or any other common cold/flu), then be smart and don’t go visit Grandma.
But… you won’t find any Bible references where anyone force-quarantined the HEALTHY!
You are able to understand the difference, right? Covid is the first time in history where governments quarantined HEALTHY people. Not people who were coughing up phlegm and sneezing uncontrollably or having body parts fall off of them from leprosy – but perfectly HEALTHY people!
This has NEVER been about a dangerous virus. It has been an IQ test to see just how indoctrinated and controllable the world population is as a whole. You have failed miserably.
You can’t really be this unable to think logically, can you? My son got Covid and was really sick for a week. I dropped food and medicine at his door. I did not go in, nor did he in his infectious state go galivanting around town spreading his illness.
So yes, if you ARE SICK WITH Covid (or any other common cold/flu), then be smart and don’t go visit Grandma.
Rob Skiba.
I’m willing to bet that you don’t have any more Covid antibodies than I do.
I had five blood tests done a few days ago in relation to a disease that I have due to missing out on a vaccine when I was a young child. I might ask for a spike protein test next time to go with it. Thanks for the idea.
Is their fine against you justified for not only exercising your common sense, but simply doing what they themselves do? And then if you don’t pay their tyrannical, unconstitutional and unlawful fine, is it okay for them to take money from your bank or your property?
Should a leper be fined if they walked among us knowingly. Should a HIV positive person be fined for having unprotected sex with people who are not aware that the person is infected?
What would you mandate if it were up to you. Or would you just say “freedom everybody, to hell with the consequences”?
You are able to understand the difference, right? Covid is the first time in history where governments quarantined HEALTHY people. Not people who were coughing up phlegm and sneezing uncontrollably or having body parts fall off of them from leprosy – but perfectly HEALTHY people!
Maybe you do not understand that you can look healthy with no symptoms days before symptoms show up. And how did the freedom strategy work with the Spanish Flu that killed more people than WWI?
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