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Yes, I am very against this untested, experimental DNA-altering injection you are calling a vaccine.
Hi Mike, I wonder how you are so much crazy against the COVID19 Vaccination. Here are few questions and answers on the COVID19 Vaccination;
True or false: Countering the claims of Covid-19 vaccine sceptics
“Anti-vaxxers represent only a very small proportion of the French population, less than about 3.5 percent,” said Flahault. “Nothing will change these people’s minds. But anti-vaxxers aside, there’s a much larger number of people who ask themselves very legitimate questions, which I will try to answer.”
True or false: ‘Covid-19 vaccines were developed too quickly, so can’t be trusted’
Yes, it’s true that they were developed very quickly, and it’s also true that these are new, innovative vaccines, especially the RNA messenger vaccines. That said, what was compressed to save time were the administrative phases of carrying out clinical trials, not the phases dealing with ethics. The ethics committees were consulted as always and gave their opinions and responses as usual. It was the pandemic that made it possible to accelerate the recruitment of subjects.A vaccine is currently being developed for the Ebola virus, but there were never many opportunities to recruit patients. To recruit 30,000 people, and to observe a difference between the placebo group and the vaccine group, there needs to be a significant epidemic: If the virus isn’t circulating, or only a little, that becomes very difficult.
I remember conducting a clinical trial with chloroquine for the chikungunya virus, because it was thought to have an effect, but we had to stop for lack of subjects.
The conditions that contributed to the rapid development of the Covid-19 vaccine are linked to the epidemiology.
True or false: ‘Some vaccinated people also test positive or are hospitalised, which proves that the vaccine is ineffective, especially against the Delta variant’
You just need to look at what’s happening in Israel or the UK, where they are currently experiencing a wave connected to the Delta variant. When we observe the correlation between contamination cases and hospitalisations, intensive care and mortality, there is, in fact, an absence for the moment of mortality associated with the variant.At the same time, in Russia, where much less of the population is vaccinated (around 15 percent have received the first dose, compared to more than 65 percent in the UK), there is a significant wave of mortality, with nearly 800 deaths a day, and also a real wave in South Africa, where we’ve seen an increase in the number of positive cases and deaths.
In Portugal, which is nearer to other European countries in terms of vaccinations (more than 50 percent), there has perhaps been a small increase in hospitalisations, but it seems to be much smaller – in any case not on the same scale as in Russia.
So here we have a practically live demonstration of how the vaccine, above a certain threshold, begins to work. But this does not mean there won’t be any more hospitalisations: In the UK, a fraction of the people are not yet vaccinated, and it is precisely those people who are being hospitalised, not those who are vaccinated.
Either way, of course there can be glitches and a few vaccinated people might still contract the virus. There are even some who might experience serious complications and die. But there is always marginal vaccine ineffectiveness; it’s very low for Covid-19 vaccines, but a vaccine is never 100 percent effective. Covid-19 vaccines are very close to 100 percent.
Apart from very rare cases linked, for example, to immunosenescence, where very old people may lose their immunity to a vaccine, when you are vaccinated, you are no longer at risk of needing hospitalisation. We are really dealing with very effective vaccines.
True or false: ‘You can still transmit the virus even if you are vaccinated’
The vaccine reduces the risk of transmission, probably by 60 to 80 percent. It isn’t 100 percent, but in terms of public health, very substantially reducing the risk of transmission helps reduce the risk of the virus spreading. So the more people are vaccinated, the more we will be able to block this virus, and the more difficult it will be for it to spread through the population.However, this cannot be done fully: Very few vaccines entirely eliminate the risk of transmitting the virus. Covid-19 vaccines may allow some transmission, but they protect us against the severe forms, and that’s what we we need them to do.
True or false: ‘Messenger RNA vaccines modify our genetic code’
This is a claim we hear a lot. When you have Covid-19, a huge strand of RNA enters the cells, takes on the role of messenger RNA and produces proteins from our cellular machinery.When you’re infected by a virus, whether it is influenza, dengue, chikungunya or Covid-19, it’s an injection of messenger RNA. And when it’s caused by a mosquito, it’s very similar to a messenger RNA vaccination. So there is nothing very new here, but above all, there is no genome modification with these viruses. The only genome modification that exists is with retroviruses, like the AIDS virus, which can get into the genome, but this is not at all the case with messenger RNA viruses.
I can’t understand how you can be afraid that a vaccine will do something worse than the virus you’re trying to fight. Especially since the vaccine’s messenger RNA is destroyed within hours, to the point that a second dose is necessary. Messenger RNA has no subsistence in cells beyond a few hours.
True or false: ‘Messenger RNA vaccines like Pfizer can cause cancer’
This claim is hard to counter because cancer, which can be caused by carcinogens, doesn’t appear in the weeks or months following exposure, but years later. So these would be cases of cancer that would appear later and we’d then have a cancer epidemic in several years.You just can’t counter this claim. If a former Nobel Prize laureate says ‘There will be a cancer epidemic in 30 years’, how can I say he’s wrong? I can’t know. [Editor’s note: this is a reference to Professor Luc Montagnier, today criticised by an overwhelming majority of scientists for his anti-vaccine positions.]
On the other hand, what we can say is that with everything we inhale, swallow and inject, we might be at risk of exposure to carcinogens. We know, for example, that the fine particles that we breathe in the atmosphere on peak pollution days are carcinogenic. Maybe we’ll develop cancer from the air we breathed last winter, when pollution in our cities peaked. I think there’s no model that has ever shown that this vaccine causes cancer, so there is no reason to think that it does.
True or false: ‘The vaccine’s side effects are more dangerous than the disease’
As an individual, if you’re young and you get severe cavernous sinus thrombosis, which is a very serious side effect, or myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, for which you’re often hospitalised, then yes, in that case, your side effect is more serious than what the Covid-19 might have done to you, if you’re young and without other risk factors. However, this is extremely rare – so rare that health agencies believe that the benefit far outweighs the risk.We saw this with smallpox. The vaccine was sometimes very dangerous since it could kill one person per every millions of people vaccinated. But when smallpox was rampant and killing two million people a year worldwide, no one questioned the value of the smallpox vaccine. Once the risk disappeared, after smallpox was eradicated, we stopped vaccinating because of the adverse effects.
Likewise, the Covid-19 vaccine can sometimes cause serious effects, even if not death. To manage this, we can only say under what circumstances (such as age, or sex) the side effects occur and this allows us to regulate the prescription of some of these vaccines, not all of which carry the same risk of serious side effects.
Experts Puzzled By Why Haiti Has One of the Lowest COVID-19 Death Rates In the World Despite Administering Zero Vaccine Doses: ‘We Don’t Know’
Dr. Jean “Bill” Pape, a top Haitian infectious disease expert, said the nation’s low death rate can’t be attributed to strict adherence to mask-wearing or social distancing guidelines.
“Most people don’t wear a mask,” he said.
By December, most restrictions had been lifted and buses and markets have been crowded in recent months. No one in Haiti has received a single dose of a coronavirus vaccine.
When COVAX, a program run by the World Health Organization, offered Haiti AstraZeneca vaccines, the government declined the offer.
Kind of hits home when you compare Haiti with all those charts I showed you where Covid was down to nothing before they started vaxxing – and then the cases skyrocketed. And then add that to the CDC Director saying that the vaxxed have INCREASED risks.
If we’d have just done nothing and let this play out, it would have been IDENTICAL to every other flu season. But this was never about a pandemic in the first place. It was about money, eugenics, and control over the useless eaters who survive the extermination event. And it was planned years in advance. Here they are talking about their plans of a worldwide forced vax in 2019…
https://www.c-span.org/video/?465845-1/universal-flu-vaccine
Five things you need to know about: mRNA vaccine safety
The world’s first mRNA vaccine has begun its rollout after being produced at unprecedented speed as part of the global effort to end the Covid-19 pandemic. A second one is hot on its heels. The two – one made by Pfizer/BioNTech and the other by Moderna – mark the first time this vaccine technology has been approved for use.
In trials these vaccines have shown to be at least 94% effective at preventing people from falling ill with Covid-19. But how safe is this new technology? We spoke to Michel Goldman, a professor of immunology and founder of the I3h Institute for Interdisciplinary Innovation in healthcare at the Université Libre de Bruxelles in Belgium. Here are five things to know.1 mRNA vaccine technology is not entirely new Vaccines such as the inactivated polio vaccine, or most flu vaccines, use inactivated viruses to trigger a person’s immune system to respond to that disease-causing organism. In other vaccines, such as the hepatitis B vaccine, an individual protein made by that organism is injected instead to trigger a similar response.
mRNA vaccines, however, trick the body into making the viral protein itself which, in turn, triggers an immune response.
Although the COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech are the first mRNA vaccines to complete all clinical trial stages and be licensed for use, the technology has been around for a while.
Human trials of cancer vaccines using the same mRNA technology have been taking place since at least 2011. ‘If there was a real problem with the technology, we’d have seen it before now for sure,’ said Prof. Goldman.
Because the technology can be deployed extremely rapidly, and clinical trials have been so successful, mRNA platforms will be an important means of preparing for future epidemics, he says.
2 mRNA vaccines do not alter your DNA
A concern that some have had about the mRNA vaccines is that they could change people’s DNA. But that idea is ‘completely false’ and has ‘no scientific basis’, says Prof. Goldman.‘The (vaccine) mRNA will not enter the nucleus of the cells, where our DNA is.’
Once the injected mRNA enters a human cell, it degrades quickly and only stays in the body for a couple of days. This is why people need two injections to develop the best immune response, he says.
‘The highest risk right now (especially for vulnerable people) is not to be vaccinated.’
Prof. Michel Goldman, Université Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium
3 mRNA vaccines are very specific
The novel coronavirus, or SARS-CoV-2, has a complex structure, and different parts of the virus trigger the immune system to produce different antibodies to neutralise the virus.If an unvaccinated person catches the virus, they will produce antibodies that prevent the virus from entering human cells. They may also generate antibodies that do not have much impact. And in some cases, a person may produce antibodies which actually help the virus enter cells.
mRNA vaccines are much more specific. They are designed to only trigger an immune response to the virus’s spike protein, which is just one component of the viral membrane and enables the virus to invade our cells.
To be sure this is the case, researchers are carefully monitoring that the vaccine does not trigger an unwanted immune response.
‘So far this has not been shown for the (Covid-19) vaccines.’ But it ‘will remain important to ensure the immune response triggered by the vaccine is focused on the viral spike protein,’ said Prof. Goldman.
4 Corners were not cut in the clinical trials and approvals process
Vaccine trials take place in stages, starting with trials on animals, and then three trials on people – Phase 1, Phase 2 and finally Phase 3.The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine Phase 3 trial involved more than 40,000 people. It began in July and will continue to collect efficacy and safety data for another two years.
Safety issues that would affect significant numbers of vaccines mostly appear within two months, Prof. Goldman says.
However, after a vaccine is given to millions of people, very rare side effects that cannot be anticipated from clinical trials might develop, so researchers and regulators will be keeping a close eye on how the vaccine rollout goes. This will be especially important for Covid-19 vaccines based on innovative technology.
Regulatory agencies reviewed the data from Covid-19 vaccine trials more quickly than usual by looking at it on a rolling basis rather than only once the trials were complete, but they did not fundamentally change their rules. ‘I really don’t think that corners were cut in terms of safety,’ said Prof. Goldman.
The process was faster than usual because researchers had already built an mRNA platform – a way of getting viral mRNA into the body – for cancer and other vaccines under trial. It meant this could be put into action as soon as the genomic sequence of the virus was shared.
Companies and governments also took the risk of producing large numbers of vaccines even before the the first stages of experimentation had been completed, which meant they were ready to begin large human trials as soon as the results were in.
‘It’s a financial risk, because if you were wrong all this is lost. That’s why the risk is shared between the private companies and the governments,’ said Prof. Goldman.
5 The vaccine triggers an inflammatory response
The vaccine partly works by inducing local inflammatory reactions to trigger the immune system. This means that it’s normal for many people to experience pain at the site of the injection and sometimes fever and discomfort for one or two days after the vaccine.‘This is something that has not been advertised enough,’ says Prof. Goldman.
A November survey in 15 countries found 54% of people were worried about possible side effects from a Covid-19 vaccine.
One unwanted response to the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine came to light during the first day of mass vaccination in the UK after two people with a history of significant allergies reacted to the injection. The UK regulatory authority updated its advice to specify that people with a history of anaphylaxis to medicine or food should not get the shot.
In the clinical trials, allergic reactions occurred in 0.63% of people given the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and in 0.5% of people given a placebo.
‘My main concern is that people will use (possible side-effects) as an argument not to be vaccinated,’ said Prof. Goldman ‘The highest risk right now (especially for vulnerable people) is not to be vaccinated.’
Prof. Goldman was the first executive director of the Innovative Medicines Initiative, a partnership between the EU and the European pharmaceutical industry to speed up the development of, and access to, innovative medicines.
Adam: Hi Mike, I wonder how you are so much crazy against the COVID19 Vaccination. Here are few questions and answers on the COVID19 Vaccination…
True or false: ‘Covid-19 vaccines were developed too quickly, so can’t be trusted’
Yes, it’s true that they were developed very quickly, and it’s also true that these are new, innovative vaccines, especially the RNA messenger vaccines. That said, what was compressed to save time were the administrative phases of carrying out clinical trials, not the phases dealing with ethics.
LOL! Do we need to read more? They’ve already admitted that they were developed WAY faster than any vaccine in the history of the world, that they are new, untested “vaccines”, and that they didn’t take any time to actually TEST them first in clinical trials!
Wow dude… are you really that daft? YOU are the “test”, man. YOU are the guinea pig – being injected with something that no human ever has, with no human testing beforehand. And you are like the biggest cheerleader for this incredibly reckless and stupid idea.
The rest of the answers you copied and pasted are inaccurate information, and are handily refuted by the actual evidence. For example, the hospitalization rate in the UK is now KNOWN to be over 77% vaccinated! Yet your apparently old information implies that EVERY hospitalization is an unvaxxed person…
In the UK, a fraction of the people are not yet vaccinated, and it is precisely those people who are being hospitalised, not those who are vaccinated.
So that is just one of the blatant falsehoods your info contains. But don’t take my word for it… look at the actual university studies – or listen to the words of the CDC Director in that short clip I posted today. Didn’t you listen to it? Didn’t you hear her say that the vaxxed have an INCREASED risk of hospitalization and death from Covid?
Dude, that’s the plan. The vax is DESTROYING your body’s own ability to fight off infections, so people will get very sick and die from things that would have given them a slight cold before being vaxxed.
I believe you are in denial because you are one of the lab rats who chose willingly to be injected. I’m sorry for you, but I won’t shy away from the facts just because you might have inadvertently damaged yourself.
Adam: We saw this with smallpox. The vaccine was sometimes very dangerous since it could kill one person per every millions of people vaccinated. But when smallpox was rampant and killing two million people a year worldwide, no one questioned the value of the smallpox vaccine.
One death per millions? There are already 17 THOUSAND deaths officially reported, Adam! And the true number is likely in the millions. And Covid was never killing 2 million people worldwide to begin with. Of the 700k American deaths recorded as Covid deaths, the CDC itself says that only 5% of them actually died FROM Covid. That’s only 35k Americans who died “FROM” Covid. In a nation of 330 million, that number looks like this: 0.000106.
So Covid was the CAUSE of death for 0.01% of Americans. 35k died in a country where 2.8 MILLION die every year.
AND the PCR test can’t even diagnose ANY virus/infection (according to the guy who invented it), let alone distinguish between Covid and the regular flu (according to the CDC itself). So what do you make of the fact that we normally have 30-40 million flu cases each year, but only had 1800 in 2020? How many of these 35k “Covid deaths” were actually caused by the seasonal flu? 80k Americans died from the flu in 2017. 35k are said to have died from Covid in the last year and a half.
Do you see the problem here? Or will you let your denial keep working overtime against your rational thought?
Adam, instead of flooding the thread with a bunch of very long apologetics from Big Pharma and the MSM, how about just answering my question from before?
Can you give us a valid and rational reason that governments would prohibit Ivermectin from people who want to use it?
Adam, instead of flooding the thread with a bunch of very long apologetics from Big Pharma and the MSM, how about just answering my question from before?
Can you give us a valid and rational reason that governments would prohibit Ivermectin from people who want to use it?
Hi Mike, thanks for your quick responses to my posts. Don’t worry I and my family and friends are the true witnesses for the safety of COVID Vaccine in India. Don’t be afraid of a small needle my friend.
Yes our Gov’t has not banished Ivermectin in India.
Adam…….very good , I truly hope no one gets caught up in all the CONSPIRACY THEORIST, OUT THERE and puts there family lives in jeopardy . Some people seem always disposed, to think everything is some kind of government conspiracy, to kill off their people. Mike party much fits that category of thinkers, he still think the world is flat, even though we have a international space station going around the earth 24 hrs a day taking continues pictures 24/7 as it goes around it. But he is pretty good on some bible topics though.IMO
peace and love to you and yours Adam……..gene
For example, a flat earther named Eric Dubay was scheduled to do a debate with Neil DeGrasse Tyson on the Joe Rogan Experience. At the last minute, Tyson bailed. Of course he wouldn’t have bailed if the debate was against a nut job who knows the earth is flat because an alien from “inner-Earth” told him it was, right?
I disagree. Debating nut jobs run the risk of legitimizing them and denting the scientists reputation despite there being some or a lot of entertainment value.
Further, flat earth was popular for a while. But it seems to be dying out. That could have played a part in his decision.
But he is pretty good on some bible topics though.IMO
I agree. It surprised me to learn he was a flat earther after hearing what he had to say on other topics.
Mike party much fits that category of thinkers, he still think the world is flat, even though we have a international space station going around the earth 24 hrs a day taking continues pictures 24/7 as it goes around it. But he is pretty good on some bible topics though.IMO
Hi brother Gene, his beliefs are nothing new here they are mostly oriented towards JW/Arianism who believes Jesus’ preexistence as an Angelic being prior to his birth and Jesus as a god created in the beginning by God.
Haiti
Experts Puzzled By Why Haiti Has One of the Lowest COVID-19 Death Rates In the World Despite Administering Zero Vaccine Doses: ‘We Don’t Know’
Interesting. I didnt know that. So I looked it up. The explanation given is Haiti’s youthful population and we know that the virus effects mostly elderly people.
Further I will take a stab in the dark and say that the Alpha version of the virus could have ran rampant through the youthful population like other viruses in Haiti have and they showed little to no symptoms like it does in our part of the world for young people. By the time Delta hit, they had enough people with natural immunity to gain herd immunity.
If true, this is a good sign because it shows that eventually this will happen on our part of the world.
Yes we could have done it the same way. But it would have killed many older people in our part of the world.
Australian made COVID vaccine that is a GAME-CHANGER
A Sydney-based biotech firm has developed a world-first COVID vaccine, that could be more effective than those currently available. Engeneic uses nanocellular technology to stimulate a strong antibody response. Not only has it been found to work against mutant strains, including Delta.
THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST, NO DOUBT. WAKE UP AND STOP LOOKING ELSEWHERE.
God desires that you repent.
very good , I truly hope no one gets caught up in all the CONSPIRACY THEORIST, OUT THERE
Gene, Noah was a conspiracy theorist, until it rained.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Miia… We all today live and function, in a Babylonian type system of rule. We have never known any thing any different , we were born into it. So if we were to be judged today we would all have the mark of the beast , (in our minds) and work in it (mark in our hands) . But because we born into it, God understands our position and therefore perhaps doesn’t judge us as severely. But after a thousand years of the kingdom of Jesus Christ rule on this whole earth and then those who get involved again with that type of Babylonian rule, will receive a greater judgement.
Miia the mark of the beast has nothing to do with the COVID vaccine shots Sis.
peace and love to you and yours Miia…….gene
You’ve posted quite a few of those in the Flat Earth thread too. It’s easy to find oddballs saying crazy things and purposely use those people as the “face” of an entire movement or group, right?
Yes, but I have also debunked the less odd ball ones too. Further, the idea of a flat earth is oddball because there is no theory that works. It requires multiple theories that cannot work together.
Only the globe answers all observation. The truth tends to do that.
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