Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth?

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  • #873249
    Miia
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    Look for IT’S WORSE THAN YOU THINK, Part 1, 2 and 3, here:

    https://revelationsofjesuschrist.com/

    #873279
    Berean
    Participant

    Hi Miia

    Hearing this guy doesn’t reassure me …. the music, his way of speaking ….
    Be careful Mia, lean on the Word of God.
    GOOD COURAGE IN YOUR LIFE.

    #873443
    Proclaimer
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    The vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast

    It would be cruel beyond question for the mark of the beast to be a vaccine or administered via  a vaccine during a world wide pandemic. Knowing that you cannot be saved if you have the mark and then making it a vaccine is not a reasonable argument for being thrown into Hell.

    A mark is a sign of ownership. If you worship the Beast and its image, and you receive the mark, then you basically know what you are signing up for.

    Anyway, there is no microchip smaller than the head of the needle. Further, the vaccine goes into the arm. Not the right hand or forehead.

    #873444
    Proclaimer
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    Here’s a good analysis so far

    #873449
    gadam123
    Participant

    The vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast
    It would be cruel beyond question for the mark of the beast to be a vaccine or administered via  a vaccine during a world wide pandemic. Knowing that you cannot be saved if you have the mark and then making it a vaccine is not a reasonable argument for being thrown into Hell.

    A mark is a sign of ownership. If you worship the Beast and its image, and you receive the mark, then you basically know what you are signing up for.

    Anyway, there is no microchip smaller than the head of the needle. Further, the vaccine goes into the arm. Not the right hand or forehead.

    Yes it’s really a timely comment on this thread. I request all those people to get Vaccine to save their lives in this world than for an unknown world.

    #873508
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hi Miia,

    The mark of the beast will involve a willful and knowing act of bowing down before an image and worshiping the beast as your master in order to be able to work and buy food for you and your family.  Those who refuse will be killed or starved to death.

    The point is that it won’t be a “trick”.  It can’t be 5G, or a certain cell phone, or a vaccine, etc.  We will KNOW for a fact that we are willingly rejecting God and worshiping someone else in order to save ourselves.  When that time comes, we must remember that Jesus told us that those trying to save their lives will lose them, and those who lose them on his account will receive everlasting life.

    That being said, don’t take the vax.  It is not a vaccine, but an mRna injection that gives your body new instructions.  Doctors have already examined the blood of vaxxed people, and it is scary to see it under the microscope.  It is causing blood clots, myocarditis (heart problems), and a host of other adverse reactions and death.  Already more people have died from this “vax” than all the other vaccines in the history of the world put together.

    Your mask doesn’t work (it’s like trying to keep mosquitos out of your yard with a chain link fence).  Social distancing is laughable – as if your exhale can only travel 6 feet in a crowded grocery store or whatever.  And the vax is confirmed to have many poisons, aborted fetal tissues, and heavy metals in it.  Plus, it doesn’t even work.  The majority of people getting sick with Covid today are those who have had multiple injections.

    Israel is the most vaccinated nation on earth, and has a huge surge in Covid hospitalizations.  They just announced a FOURTH shot that will be mandated now.

    So think it out… there is a flu going around that has a 99.5% survivability rate for anyone under 70.  Why would anyone need a vax for that? And why the big push?  If you are vaxxed, then why I have to be?  The entire thing is stupid.  It is a plandemic, and will kill millions while also making evil people very rich.

    Did you know that the Rothschilds had a patent on the Covid vax in 2015 – 5 years before it was a thing?  What does that tell you?

    I wear my mask on the inside.  It’s called an immune system.  God designed it, and it’s all any of us need.  Nobody can outrun or completely eliminate any virus – or death for that matter.  It’s stupid to think we can.  Herd immunity is the only way.  But the people who purposely unleashed this flu on us don’t want that.  They want a world population of 500 million, with a few thousand ruling over their slaves.  That’s why they suppress HCQ and Ivermectin – two completely safe medications that have been used by billions for half a century.  This is all on purpose, Miia.  This is the New World Order trying to establish itself.  Look at the current state of Australia to see it in action.

    I believe that good people are on top of the situation, and that justice is coming soon for those evil people.  But if I’m wrong, then I still rejoice – because this is exactly the situation that will lead to the events described in Revelation.  And that means the return of our Lord is soon to follow.

    Nice talking to you again.  It’s been a long time.

    #873517
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I wear my mask on the inside.  It’s called an immune system.  God designed it, and it’s all any of us need.  Nobody can outrun or completely eliminate any virus – or death for that matter.  It’s stupid to think we can.

    Whether you are vaccinated or not, we will either die or gain antibodies. Vaccines do it in a safer way than exposure to the virus. But both lead to immunity, but one is considerably less safe.

    You can’t outrun a virus, but the population can gain immunity.

    I think of the native people of New Zealand. When Europeans first arrived, their diseases killed much of the population. But some gained immunity and passed that on to the next generation, Their numbers bounced back.

    The idea with a vaccine is to get the same immune system reaction that you would get if you were exposed to the virus, but using a much less harmful agent.

    Covid-19 actually doesn’t kill a lot of people, so chances are your immune system can fight it off and we may all get Covid multiple times and each time our immune system will respond. And hopefully it gets to the point that it joins the common cold with being a mild problem going forward.

    I got vaccinated for a number of reasons. One is that we know people who got the virus and one year on, they still suffer from tiredness and lack energy. This would be devastating for my two sons who play football and train 5 days a week. Breathing difficulties is another symptom as is losing taste or smell. Screw that.

    If we look at history, we can see that vaccinations have saved a lot of people from serious problems like Polio. Vaccines are proven to work.

    #873519
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Israel is the most vaccinated nation on earth, and has a huge surge in Covid hospitalizations.  They just announced a FOURTH shot that will be mandated now.

    I heard this on the radio so did a bit of research on it. In Israel, the vaccinated are still multiple times less vulnerable compared to the unvaccinated. It’s called ‘Simpson’s paradox’. If 80 percent of the adult population is vaccinated, then then 80% of hospitalized people would be vaccinated if the vaccine didn’t work. But according to one source at least, they represent 53 out of every million fully vaccinated Israelis. At the same time, 214 hospitalized people were not vaccinated. You can do the math, but suffice to say that 20% who were not vaccinated made up a much bigger fraction of hospitalized people.

    That said, my main concern for the vaccine is not the fact that it is a vaccine, rather that it was developed quickly and it is new technology. But so far the stats have been very good.

    In New Zealand we have an eradication policy that is largely working. The idea is that the population is vaccinated and as that percentage gets higher, we will slowly open up more businesses and the borders. So I have had the luxury of waiting to see if any problems arise from the vaccine overseas. From the data it looks good so far.

    #873522
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Proclaimer:  Vaccines are proven to work.

    Vaccines are a hoax.  Have been from the outset.  Do more research.  The idea of a “virus” is also a hoax.  Nobody has ever isolated a “virus” – despite one scientist having a long standing million dollar reward to anyone who can.

    Proclaimer:  The idea with a vaccine is to get the same immune system reaction that you would get if you were exposed to the virus, but using a much less harmful agent.

    There is no “Covid virus” in the vaccines though.  In fact, nobody is able to provide a sample of this virus to esteemed universities who have been begging to have it for study.  A “coronavirus” is a common cold, no more and no less.  But this is a biological weapon that was purposely unleashed on the world by a lab in China.  And the “vaccine” is an mRna injection that changes the DNA code in your body.

    Somebody is playing God.  I will have no part of it.  Thankfully I live in AZ, and our Governor knows that we won’t do mandated jabs or masks here.  Many nations are rising up against this tyranny that you’ve been duped into welcoming with open arms.  That was, after all, their plan.  They thought if they could scare enough sheep, they’d walk willingly to the enslavement/slaughter… and they could also turn those willing sheep against the awake ones.

    Their plan has already failed, because too many of us are awake.  That’s why they’re now taking the severe steps they are in NZ and Oz.  Too many protests and awakening in Oz?  Okay, let’s lock those bastards down, censor them, and stop them from crossing state lines!  This is the evil that we’re dealing with.

    As for your Israel info, I don’t trust it.  If your info was correct, then why the FOURTH booster?

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    People are waking up though – in big numbers.  Florida and Arizona are setting up Ivermectin or HCQ/Zinc treatments now.  These treatments (about $10 per person) stop this infection in its tracks.  Of course many of us have known about them since the beginning, but Big Tech and the MSM have purposely hidden them, and have even called them deadly (even though they’ve been used for 50 years by billions of people).  Now today I found out that Pfizer is  working on their own “Pfizermectin” brand which will probably cost $1000 per person even though it’s the same exact stuff.  But that’s good.  It means their deadly “vaccine” is not being trusted anymore because too many are awake and already using the cheap treatment.

     

     

     

    #873523
    gadam123
    Participant

    Very good information and arguments posted by Proclaimer and Mike.

    Thank you.

    #873526
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Never let a good crisis go to waste

    A couple of things Mike.

    1. I know people that have had Covid-19 and it wasn’t pretty.
    2. Yes, freedoms are being trampled on in the name of a virus. Governments do not let a crises go to waste. But that doesn’t mean the virus is not real. It just means that governments can implement plans that they couldn’t implement before. We will see anyway. If life returns back to what it was, then restrictions were 100% because of the virus. If not, then the virus triggered the response and now they want to keep that level of control with scanning etc.

    And yes there are viruses and they cause disease. I suffer from the effects of a virus and have done for years. It could have been avoided with a vaccine. But I missed out on the vaccine when I was a kid for some reason which I do not know. Regardless, vaccines have protected millions from serious diseases. For example, in my part of the world, there have been zero cases of polio since the vaccine was introduced.

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    #873527
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    People are waking up though – in big numbers.  Florida and Arizona are setting up Ivermectin or HCQ/Zinc treatments now.  These treatments (about $10 per person) stop this infection in its tracks.  Of course many of us have known about them since the beginning, but Big Tech and the MSM have purposely hidden them, and have even called them deadly (even though they’ve been used for 50 years by billions of people).  Now today I found out that Pfizer is  working on their own “Pfizermectin” brand which will probably cost $1000 per person even though it’s the same exact stuff.  But that’s good.  It means their deadly “vaccine” is not being trusted anymore because too many are awake and already using the cheap treatment.

    Yes, Big Tech, MSM, and drug companies seem to be against certain effective medicines for some reason. Probably because of profit. But whether it is a vaccine or medicine you take, it is still man-made.

    Technology has helped you Mike. People use to die in their 30s and lots of babies died. You could have been one of them save for modern medicine. I would have died in my early 20s of Appendicitis if it was not for modern medicine and surgery.

    #873529
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Anyway, regardless of who is wrong or right, I respect your choice to not get vaccinated. It’s your body and your own responsibility. I am not trying to talk you into getting vaccinated. I am just debating the merits of vaccination.

    #873531
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    As a side note. I was in Argentina in 2009 and contracted Swine Flu. This pandemic caused by H1N1 influenza virus was the most recent flu pandemic with the first being the 1918–1920 Spanish flu followed by the Russian flu. Obviously I was not vaccinated and it really knocked me off my feet. I had to stay isolated in a hotel in Buenos Aires for 5 days with little food, only fruit. My natural immunity fought it off, but if I was old or very weak, I might not have made it.

    That said, I had an even worse flu some years later in New Zealand. There was no pandemic, but it put me out of action for 3 weeks. I honestly looked like someone out of Z Nation or the Walking Dead. I then opted for the flu vaccine after that for about 5 years and haven’t had the flu since, despite not having the flu vaccine for the last 10 years now.

    Our natural immune systems adapt to these viruses. Sometimes though, they need a helping hand as they can lose battles and even the war.

    #873544
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The outcome to this lawsuit will be interesting

    #880995
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Proclaimer…..I agree with you,  being vaccinated  does help people fight off various viruses, they train our immune systems to attack those viruses when they appear in our blood systems,  and greatly aid in fighting off those flew viruses,   especially when you are old and suffer with a weakened immune system. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……….gene

    #882326
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Agreed Gene.

    I would rather go into battle with a shield than without one. Even if there is a less than 1% chance of dying if I didn’t have a shield. But I respect the decision of others if they want to fight this virus without a vaccine. I guess I like a bit of insurance rather than nothing.

    #882329
    gadam123
    Participant

    Anyway, regardless of who is wrong or right, I respect your choice to not get vaccinated. It’s your body and your own responsibility. I am not trying to talk you into getting vaccinated. I am just debating the merits of vaccination.

    Yes you are 100% correct on Vaccination. My own younger sister was a polio victim and became disabled.

    #882331
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Yes, the Polio vaccine has eradicated Polio in my part of the world. Perhaps even the whole world today. I would have to look that up. But there were less vaccines in decades past, so people had to suffer diseases that are not contractible today.

    #882332
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The idea of a “virus” is also a hoax.  Nobody has ever isolated a “virus” – despite one scientist having a long standing million dollar reward to anyone who can.

    So what is the flu then?

    And it would be hard to isolate a virus as it exists within a host organism.

    Can you isolate a computer virus outside of a computer? If knowing the code of a computer virus is isolating it, then scientists do know the RNA or DNA of some viruses. Could you isolate some of your DNA code?

    Regardless, scientists claim to have isolated viruses, so I am not sure what you exactly mean when you use that word ‘isolate’. And would the guy even pay the million. No. So not worth it.

    Same thing with the Flat Earth priests who offer cash rewards. They don’t pay up either.

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