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Ed, Mike, Not that I really think it matters. It may be interesting that's about all. I believe YHWH is Spirit and if YHWH works in you, you know it, I had it even though I had no idea what exactly God was, all I knew was that it was the God of the Bible, trinity, non trinity, whatever ? It was better then,
Who can claim they have all the truth for sure ?
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,21:37) Ed, Mike, Not that I really think it matters. It may be interesting that's about all. I believe YHWH is Spirit and if YHWH works in you, you know it, I had it even though I had no idea what exactly God was, all I knew was that it was the God of the Bible, trinity, non trinity, whatever ? It was better then, Who can claim they have all the truth for sure ?
Hi Shimmer,God's name is YHVH, and his Son's name is Jesus!
What's yhwh's son's name Jetus?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, YHWH is what I used to use, once, I was so scared (don't matter what !) and I (sort of under my breath) called YHWH and I was no longer scared, so I used to use that, You use YHVH, it's the same thing Ed.
Jesus is from Yahshua, or Yah saves, but we know that, so Jesus is ok to use.
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,21:56) Ed, YHWH is what I used to use, once, I was so scared (don't matter what !) and I (sort of under my breath) called YHWH and I was no longer scared, so I used to use that, You use YHVH, it's the same thing Ed. Jesus is from Yahshua, or Yah saves, but we know that, so Jesus is ok to use.
Hi Shimmer,Is Jetus and Jesus the same as well?
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,21:58) Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,21:56) Ed, YHWH is what I used to use, once, I was so scared (don't matter what !) and I (sort of under my breath) called YHWH and I was no longer scared, so I used to use that, You use YHVH, it's the same thing Ed. Jesus is from Yahshua, or Yah saves, but we know that, so Jesus is ok to use.
Hi Shimmer,Is Jetus and Jesus the same as well?
Hi Shimmer,JEHOVAH is OK to use, like Jesus is OK to use.
But who is this yhwh you speak of?
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, YHWH, I don't know, it's what I used to say, as do alot of people, I havent studied into it?
What's Jetuce ? Sounds like Lettace, but then again if I said Jetus and I knew I meant (Jesus of the Bible) then, does it really matter ?
God looks at the heart. God knows what we mean !
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,22:10) Ed, YHWH, I don't know, it's what I used to say, as do alot of people, I havent studied into it? What's Jetuce ? Sounds like Lettace, but then again if I said Jetus and I knew I meant (Jesus of the Bible) then, does it really matter ?
God looks at the heart. God knows what we mean !
Hi Shimmer,Psalm 45:17 I (Ed) will make thy name (YHVH: YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in
all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee(יהוה) for ever and ever.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
Jesus only used the name…Heavenly Father or Father, what name did He make manifest ? (and Hallowed be thy name) ?
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,22:37) Hi Ed, Jesus only used the name…Heavenly Father or Father, what name did He make manifest ? (and Hallowed be thy name) ?
Hi Shimmer,This is clearly understood in the Hebrew, but the English misses the connection
as to how Jesus manifested God's name. I will endeavor to explain this to you…John 17:6 I(יהשוע) have manifested thy name(יה) unto the men which thou gavest me out of
the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word(John 1:1).“The Savior”=117 (Jer.14:8-9)
Paul’s Greek-written manuscripts (fulfills the prophesy of Isaiah 53:12) having transcribed the
Hebrew name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă into Greek as [Ιησους] Ē-Ā-Soos. Note the similarity in pronunciation
and Theomatic values for both Ē-Ā-Soos=74 and Jesus=74. While Theomatics (Gematria) keeps
mathematical connections in English, it tells nothing of GOD’s name [יה] YÄ being linguistically
distanced further and further from His Word by re-transcribing a previous translation. Specifically,
instead of transcribing the authentic Hebrew Name (יהשוע), the King James linguistics instead
transcribed the Greek name for Jesus (Ιησους); which is UNAUTHENTIC because it is a
“translation of a translation”. [יהשוע] translates into “English” as [Joshua=74] YÄ-shü-ă.Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה]
in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ “REAL” name. GOD’s name is not vocalized
in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness
and direct authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew
יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע]) the salvation of “GOD the Father”.
[יהשוע] “Jesus” REAL name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the highest Name.(Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore [Holy Spirit=151] has highly exalted [Jesus=74] giving Him a name
which is above every name, to the glory of [GOD The Father=117].) Neither is there salvation
in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע), whereby we must be
saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence, [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă
means: “YÄ is Savior”. The Name of [GOD=26] is [יהוה“=26”] spoken as [YÄ=26]; and “YÄ-hä-vā”!“The Savior”=117 is “GOD The Father”=117, (117=”יהוה האלהים” YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm)!
And He is Savior to all who walk the ground! And there is ‘NO’ other! (Isaiah 43:11)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,20:33) Also,
” Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.” see….son of man (Jesus) and Holy Spirit…two thing's.
Hi Shimmer,Yes…..two things, but only one of those things was ever called the ONLY begotten Son of God. The Holy Spirit is a part of God, just like your spirit is a part of you….not your “son” or “daughter”.
mike
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,22:10) What's Jetuce ? Sounds like Lettace, but then again if I said Jetus and I knew I meant (Jesus of the Bible) then, does it really matter ? God looks at the heart. God knows what we mean !
Hi Shimmer,It DOESN'T really matter…..you are right. The YHVH thing is just one of Ed's pet peaves. He is just trying to educate us….which is fine. But when you consider all the names God and His Son are called by in all the different languages, I'm sure it doesn't matter…..just like you say. They know who we're talking to/about.
mike
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,22:37) Hi Ed, Jesus only used the name…Heavenly Father or Father, what name did He make manifest ? (and Hallowed be thy name) ?
Hi Shimmer,The oldest fragments of the Septuagint found have the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHVH written in the Hebrew letters in the midst of the Greek text in places where Jesus and others quoted the OT scriptures. The newer LXX mss have “Lord” instead, but the oldest one we know of had YHVH.
So who's to say that when you read about Jesus or others saying “Lord” that they didn't in reality say “Yahweh”? Jesus might have used the divine name and “made your name known” literally, right?
mike
Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,04:32) Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 02 2010,05:05) Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?
Hello Adam,Do you believe any Scriptures?
Col 1:15-16 is not saying that Jesus is God. It says that he is the firstborn of all creation, then God, thru him created everything.
You are right for the people that believe in Jesus as God it would be polytheistic…however, these verses don't say that.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
So brother DavidbFun you don't agree with them those who call Jesus God. Good.. then who is Jesus, a man or an angel?
This is where many christians differ. Unitarians say Jesus is pure man but JW/Arians and others say Jesus is non-human I mean a spirit being like an angel. Where do you stand?Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 09 2010,22:06) Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,04:32) Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 02 2010,05:05) Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?
Hello Adam,Do you believe any Scriptures?
Col 1:15-16 is not saying that Jesus is God. It says that he is the firstborn of all creation, then God, thru him created everything.
You are right for the people that believe in Jesus as God it would be polytheistic…however, these verses don't say that.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
So brother DavidbFun you don't agree with them those who call Jesus God. Good.. then who is Jesus, a man or an angel?
This is where many christians differ. Unitarians say Jesus is pure man but JW/Arians and others say Jesus is non-human I mean a spirit being like an angel. Where do you stand?
Hi Gol,But wore importantly: “Who was Jesus' Father?”
Seems this is a “Big” question ‘troubling’ DBF!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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