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[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,01:13)

Hi KW, So you even say that to not follow your ideas is to be irrational??

Nick,

I am saying to deny water is wet is irrational and that you are symbolically doing just that. You have simply not had the related Scripture opened to you; for you are currently blind to that which you have eyes to see.

Seek a broken spirit and a contrite heart.

[kerwin]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 02 2012,20:02)

Kerwin………..When we all Die we are “NOT” either,  Just like ENOCH was when he DIED, He was NOT also. That means he no longer EXISTED as a “LIVING SOUL” any longer. and will not until he is resurected at the first resurrection that is to take place in the future as scripture says.  The false belief that a Person consists of a body+ Spirit + a SOUL that continues to live after death is the source of this false teaching.  Kerwin while there is a lot of Symbolism and Metaphors, and Personifications of things in scriptures we still need to be careful how we apply these things in our understanding of scriptures. As a rule what we percieve of them should be able to be seen in many other places also and not just one scripture should we make a doctrine out of IMO? peace and love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………………………………….gene

Gene,

Your reason as flawed which is revealed by applying it to:

Genesis 43:3
King James Version (KJV)

3And Judah spake unto him, saying, The man did solemnly protest unto us, saying, Ye shall not see my face, except your brother be with you.

According to you they would see Joseph's face; even if they chose not to bring their younger brother.

Hebrews 11:5 states Enos was translated that he not see death.    I continuously believe Enos did not see death though his ancestors did; as well as those decedents not still living at the time; just as God states.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
So your condemnation of all who do not see things your way deepens.
Interesting

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,06:20)

Hi GB, The word soul exists so commonly in scripture your bible must be quite thin, especially with satan removed as well.

Nick………Yes it does and it alway means the complete being not just a Part of a “BEING” . Nick Who is saying there is not SATAN , I am not saying that , I am saying Satan is Not a person or Being going around jumping in and out of People , Satan is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) of an adversary to the WILL of GOD. (IT) can be (IN) anyone and (IT) is not a PERSON of any KIND but a TYPE of SPIRIT that exists (IN) People. Just that simple, If you understood what Spirits are that should be simple for you to understand.

peace and love……………………………………gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Where is this INTELLECT in scripture so we can learn of it?

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,08:29)

Hi GB, Where is this INTELLECT in scripture so we can learn of it?

Nick……..LET this “MIND” Be (IN) YOU that was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord. Now tell us Nick what is a MIND is it  not our (INTELLECT) we posses. When it speaks of the enlightenment by spirit what do you think it is referring to.

When it speaks of the day star rising in you (HEARTS) is that not the intellect of our mind being enlightened by the SPIRIT of GOD. Nick surely you can see spirits are intellects that gives us our cognate thoughts in our minds.  They ARE what OUR LIVES ARE> So a man thinks so he is.

The way he or she thinks is what there Life (IS)> and all of that is done by spirits working (IN)  our MINDS giving us our intellects and perceptions. Spirit is LIFE, of a PERSON rather the LORD our GOD or Angel or Man > It is what all minds are composed of . WE are Spirits living in flesh bodies. That is what a LIVING SOUL IS>  IMO

peace and love………………………………………………gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
The Mind of Christ is scriptural and given to those in Christ who feed on the Word.
These INTELLECTS are ADDED to scripture by you.
Why ADD to scripture?

[NickHassan]

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