Changing Minds

[mikeboll64]

Yeah 2B,

Don't forget that “A”. I just got scolded by Ed for that last week!

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,02:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,02:15) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,21:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work.  In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it. Hi Mike, Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition, you would classify me as someone who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right? “But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,  and Solomon his brother, he called not.”  (1 Kings 1:10) I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one. “Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,  are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29) Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”? Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?   (I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, Benaiah son of Jehoiada, Nathan the prophet, Shimei and Rei and David’s special guard did not join Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 Adonijah then sacrificed sheep, cattle and fattened calves at the Stone of Zoheleth near En Rogel. He invited all his brothers, the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah who were royal officials, 1Ki 1:10 but he did not invite Nathan the prophet or Benaiah or the special guard or his brother Solomon. 1Ki 1:11 Then Nathan asked Bathsheba, Solomon’s mother, “Have you not heard that Adonijah, the son of Haggith, has become king without our lord David’s knowing it? NIV 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and Nathan the prophet, and Shimei, and Rei, and the mighty men which belonged to David, were not with Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king's sons, and all the men of Judah the king's servants: 1Ki 1:10 But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not. 1Ki 1:11 Wherefore Nathan spake unto Bath-sheba the mother of Solomon, saying, Hast thou not heard that Adonijah the son of Haggith doth reign, and David our lord knoweth it not?KJV your conclusion is more related to cut scriptures into small pieces ,and then you apply the wrong meaning to them ,or make them say what they really do not ,how can we stop this behavior Hi Pierre, No, that's not the verse where Nathan the prophet prophesied about the U.S.A. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

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I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one.

his he really

[2besee]

Hi Ed,

Regarding Gematria:

Where it is troubling, is when a key part of your beliefs agree with a key part of another persons beliefs, but your trust in number calculations, etc, are doing little to help the truth be told, but rather, could put people off listening.

Your numbers, etc, are turning people off, Ed.

Your numbers are turning against you.

That is not a good thing.

(We are talking about a belief system in calculations of numbers, and a few other things — not your other beliefs in general or you as a person, Ed.)

If your numbers have helped you, then that is good – but perhaps it is not helping others as you think that they are.
They helped you – Good! But, there is the trap –
What if they put you wrong?

And then if anybody tries to point this out to you, you do not listen!

Let go of the numbers Ed.
Confess in prayer that you may be wrong and ask God to correct you.

[2besee]

Now if you listen, you should NOT have anything else to say about the matter…..!

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,09:31)

Now if you listen, you should NOT have anything else to say about the matter…..!

2Besee.

I know for sure that EdJ. has taken the way to the wildernes,and continue the path,because he feels secure Following the path.He has gone too deep into the wilderness,seeing it as the kingdom.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Wakeup,
Ed's thread is called “changing minds”, so I hope that Ed will change His mind!

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,08:40)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,02:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,02:15) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,21:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work.  In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it. Hi Mike, Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition, you would classify me as someone who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right? “But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,  and Solomon his brother, he called not.”  (1 Kings 1:10) I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one. “Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,  are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29) Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”? Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?   (I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, Benaiah son of Jehoiada, Nathan the prophet, Shimei and Rei and David’s special guard did not join Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 Adonijah then sacrificed sheep, cattle and fattened calves at the Stone of Zoheleth near En Rogel. He invited all his brothers, the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah who were royal officials, 1Ki 1:10 but he did not invite Nathan the prophet or Benaiah or the special guard or his brother Solomon. 1Ki 1:11 Then Nathan asked Bathsheba, Solomon’s mother, “Have you not heard that Adonijah, the son of Haggith, has become king without our lord David’s knowing it? NIV 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and Nathan the prophet, and Shimei, and Rei, and the mighty men which belonged to David, were not with Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king's sons, and all the men of Judah the king's servants: 1Ki 1:10 But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not. 1Ki 1:11 Wherefore Nathan spake unto Bath-sheba the mother of Solomon, saying, Hast thou not heard that Adonijah the son of Haggith doth reign, and David our lord knoweth it not?KJV your conclusion is more related to cut scriptures into small pieces ,and then you apply the wrong meaning to them ,or make them say what they really do not ,how can we stop this behavior Hi Pierre, No, that's not the verse where Nathan the prophet prophesied about the U.S.A. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj Quote I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one. his he really

Hi Pierre,

Not according to this verse:    * (indicates the baby that died)

“And these were born unto him in Jerusalem; (*), Shimea, and Shobab,
and Nathan, and Solomon, four, of Bathshua(Bathsheba)
the daughter of Ammiel:” (1Chronicles 3:5)

Nathan the Prophet could not have scolded David before he was born.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,09:29)

Hi Ed, Regarding Gematria: Where it is troubling, is when a key part of your beliefs agree with a key part of another persons beliefs, but your trust in number calculations, etc, are doing little to help the truth be told, but rather, could put people off listening. Your numbers, etc, are turning people off, Ed. Your numbers are turning against you. That is not a good thing. (We are talking about a belief system in calculations of numbers, and a few other things — not your other beliefs in general or you as a person, Ed.) If your numbers have helped you, then that is good – but perhaps it is not helping others as you think that they are. They helped you – Good! But, there is the trap – What if they put you wrong? And then if anybody tries to point this out to you, you do not listen! Let go of the numbers Ed. Confess in prayer that you may be wrong and ask God to correct you.

Hi 2Besee,

You're off topic in this thread.
Here is a NEW THREAD that T8
set up where you can scold me…    (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,06:39)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,08:40) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,02:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,02:15) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,21:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work.  In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it. Hi Mike, Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition, you would classify me as someone who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right? “But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,  and Solomon his brother, he called not.”  (1 Kings 1:10) I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one. “Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,  are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29) Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”? Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?   (I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, Benaiah son of Jehoiada, Nathan the prophet, Shimei and Rei and David’s special guard did not join Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 Adonijah then sacrificed sheep, cattle and fattened calves at the Stone of Zoheleth near En Rogel. He invited all his brothers, the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah who were royal officials, 1Ki 1:10 but he did not invite Nathan the prophet or Benaiah or the special guard or his brother Solomon. 1Ki 1:11 Then Nathan asked Bathsheba, Solomon’s mother, “Have you not heard that Adonijah, the son of Haggith, has become king without our lord David’s knowing it? NIV 1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and Nathan the prophet, and Shimei, and Rei, and the mighty men which belonged to David, were not with Adonijah. 1Ki 1:9 And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king's sons, and all the men of Judah the king's servants: 1Ki 1:10 But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not. 1Ki 1:11 Wherefore Nathan spake unto Bath-sheba the mother of Solomon, saying, Hast thou not heard that Adonijah the son of Haggith doth reign, and David our lord knoweth it not?KJV your conclusion is more related to cut scriptures into small pieces ,and then you apply the wrong meaning to them ,or make them say what they really do not ,how can we stop this behavior Hi Pierre, No, that's not the verse where Nathan the prophet prophesied about the U.S.A. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj Quote I had assumed that Nathan the prophet was David's son because of verses like this one. his he really     Hi Pierre, Not according to this verse:    * (indicates the baby that died) “And these were born unto him in Jerusalem; (*), Shimea, and Shobab, and Nathan, and Solomon, four, of Bathshua(Bathsheba) the daughter of Ammiel:” (1Chronicles 3:5) Nathan the Prophet could not have scolded David before he was born. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

1Ch 3:1 These were the sons of David born to him in Hebron:
The firstborn was Amnon the son of Ahinoam of Jezreel;
the second, Daniel the son of Abigail of Carmel;
1Ch 3:2 the third, Absalom the son of Maacah daughter of Talmai king of Geshur;
the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith;
1Ch 3:3 the fifth, Shephatiah the son of Abital;
and the sixth, Ithream, by his wife Eglah.
1Ch 3:4 These six were born to David in Hebron, where he reigned seven years and six months.

David reigned in Jerusalem thirty-three years,
1Ch 3:5 and these were the children born to him there:
Shammua, Shobab, Nathan and Solomon. These four were by Bathsheba daughter of Ammiel.
1Ch 3:6 There were also Ibhar, Elishua, Eliphelet,
1Ch 3:7 Nogah, Nepheg, Japhia,
1Ch 3:8 Elishama, Eliada and Eliphelet—nine in all.
1Ch 3:9 All these were the sons of David, besides his sons by his concubines. And Tamar was their sister.

it seems that you see in scriptures what is not
written how do you know that Nathan his refers to the prophet Nathan

[2besee]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,13:42)

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,09:29) Hi Ed, Regarding Gematria: Where it is troubling, is when a key part of your beliefs agree with a key part of another persons beliefs, but your trust in number calculations, etc, are doing little to help the truth be told, but rather, could put people off listening. Your numbers, etc, are turning people off, Ed. Your numbers are turning against you. That is not a good thing. (We are talking about a belief system in calculations of numbers, and a few other things — not your other beliefs in general or you as a person, Ed.) If your numbers have helped you, then that is good – but perhaps it is not helping others as you think that they are. They helped you – Good! But, there is the trap – What if they put you wrong? And then if anybody tries to point this out to you, you do not listen! Let go of the numbers Ed. Confess in prayer that you may be wrong and ask God to correct you. Hi 2Besee, You're off topic in this thread. Here is a NEW THREAD that T8 set up where you can scold me…    (Link) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,
Okay.

I do not intent to say any more.

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

You need to go back and re-read
what was said, apparently
it isn't registering.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi 2Besee,

Agnostics do consider mathematical probabilities as evidence to help change their mind.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[david]

Sadly, you change people's mind, by giving them what they need.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,08:06)

Hi Pierre, You need to go back and re-read what was said, apparently it isn't registering. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

??

[terraricca]

Quote (david @ May 26 2013,12:07)

Sadly, you change people's mind, by giving them what they need.

yes you can ,and it is done one dose at the time

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