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How do we change others minds?
Hi Everyone,
This is an important topic to discuss,
because I have “The Key” to how it's done.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHow do we change others minds?
Hi Everyone,
Name-calling will not do it.
Bullying and threatening will not do it.By bullying I mean attempting to limit ones answers.
And by threatening I mean to threaten consequences thereto.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHow do we change others minds?
Hi Everyone,
But what will work? That's what we are here to discuss.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to HOW we may help
others to change their minds about preexisting doctrinal beliefs?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHow do we change others minds?
Hi Everyone,
Certainly attempting to belittle someone for not agreeing with
preconceived rudimentary logic through mocking will not work either.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgShowing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work. In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding.
Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work. In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it.
Hi Mike,Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition,
you would classify me as someone
who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right?“But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,
and Solomon his brother, he called not.” (1 Kings 1:10)I had assumed that Nathan the prophet
was David's son because of verses like this one.“Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,
are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29)Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”?
Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?
(I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,21:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work. In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it.
Hi Mike,Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition,
you would classify me as someone
who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right?“But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,
and Solomon his brother, he called not.” (1 Kings 1:10)I had assumed that Nathan the prophet
was David's son because of verses like this one.“Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,
are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29)Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”?
Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?
(I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, Benaiah son of Jehoiada, Nathan the prophet, Shimei and Rei and David’s special guard did not join Adonijah.
1Ki 1:9 Adonijah then sacrificed sheep, cattle and fattened calves at the Stone of Zoheleth near En Rogel. He invited all his brothers, the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah who were royal officials,
1Ki 1:10 but he did not invite Nathan the prophet or Benaiah or the special guard or his brother Solomon.
1Ki 1:11 Then Nathan asked Bathsheba, Solomon’s mother, “Have you not heard that Adonijah, the son of Haggith, has become king without our lord David’s knowing it? NIV1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and Nathan the prophet, and Shimei, and Rei, and the mighty men which belonged to David, were not with Adonijah.
1Ki 1:9 And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king's sons, and all the men of Judah the king's servants:
1Ki 1:10 But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not.
1Ki 1:11 Wherefore Nathan spake unto Bath-sheba the mother of Solomon, saying, Hast thou not heard that Adonijah the son of Haggith doth reign, and David our lord knoweth it not?KJVyour conclusion is more related to cut scriptures into small pieces ,and then you apply the wrong meaning to them ,or make them say what they really do not ,how can we stop this behavior
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,09:07) Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?
I have never heard of such a thing. Let me know if you find it.Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,09:07) I guess by your definition,
you would classify me as someone
who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right?
I would say “SOMETIMES”, Ed. It is true that you changed your understanding about Nathan the prophet in light of the scripture I showed you. But there are many other things you won't budge on – despite the many scriptures I've showed you.How do we change others minds?
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Don't build barriers for them by presenting with arrogance, snide remarks, etc., but approach the individual with genuine love and show how you believe that truth is better supported in the whole of scripture (not just a verse here and there) using a different viewpoint (and keep an open mind yourself).Then even if you don't “change others minds” at least you won't have to answer for how you handled it.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,02:48) How do we change others minds? Hi Everyone,
Name-calling will not do it.
Bullying and threatening will not do it.By bullying I mean attempting to limit ones answers.
And by threatening I mean to threaten consequences thereto.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
Always pray for the truth and seek truth.
Understand that we are responsible for every word spoken, or written.
We should keep our behavior in check all of the time.
We will have times when we are sick or tried — it is not a good time to be posting on Internet Forums.
We need to be slow to speak and quick to listen, and it is a lesson that we all can learn..
Never think that what you believe is truth absolutely, but be open minded and eager to learn — at all times.
Only look for truth from God, do not follow man, (but listen just in case they may be speaking truth)
How to change minds?
Seek truth. do not seek to change minds.You will know the truth when it is shown to you — and the truth will set you free..
How to change minds OFF Internet Forums?
Be a good role model, and do not hide your beliefs (but do not “preach” them either).Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,02:15) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,21:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,01:16) Showing them scriptures that clearly refute their current understanding should work. In fact I've noticed during my time here that those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. Of course, there are also those here who are so dead-set in their own man-made doctrines that no amount of scriptures will deter them from it.
Hi Mike,Quote those who are truly seeking scriptural truth eagerly adjust their own understanding when shown scriptures that contradict that understanding. I guess by your definition,
you would classify me as someone
who is truly seeking scriptural truth then right?“But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men,
and Solomon his brother, he called not.” (1 Kings 1:10)I had assumed that Nathan the prophet
was David's son because of verses like this one.“Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last,
are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet” (2 Chron 9:29)Where is the book of “Nathan the Prophet”?
Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?
(I can't find it at the moment) he said it to David in Kings or Chronicles.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, Benaiah son of Jehoiada, Nathan the prophet, Shimei and Rei and David’s special guard did not join Adonijah.
1Ki 1:9 Adonijah then sacrificed sheep, cattle and fattened calves at the Stone of Zoheleth near En Rogel. He invited all his brothers, the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah who were royal officials,
1Ki 1:10 but he did not invite Nathan the prophet or Benaiah or the special guard or his brother Solomon.
1Ki 1:11 Then Nathan asked Bathsheba, Solomon’s mother, “Have you not heard that Adonijah, the son of Haggith, has become king without our lord David’s knowing it? NIV1Ki 1:8 But Zadok the priest, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, and Nathan the prophet, and Shimei, and Rei, and the mighty men which belonged to David, were not with Adonijah.
1Ki 1:9 And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king's sons, and all the men of Judah the king's servants:
1Ki 1:10 But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not.
1Ki 1:11 Wherefore Nathan spake unto Bath-sheba the mother of Solomon, saying, Hast thou not heard that Adonijah the son of Haggith doth reign, and David our lord knoweth it not?KJVyour conclusion is more related to cut scriptures into small pieces ,and then you apply the wrong meaning to them ,or make them say what they really do not ,how can we stop this behavior
Hi Pierre,No, that's not the verse where Nathan the prophet prophesied about the U.S.A.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 11 2013,03:11) How do we change others minds?
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Don't build barriers for them by presenting with arrogance, snide remarks, etc., but approach the individual with genuine love and show how you believe that truth is better supported in the whole of scripture (not just a verse here and there) using a different viewpoint (and keep an open mind yourself).Then even if you don't “change others minds” at least you won't have to answer for how you handled it.
My opinion – Wm
Hi Wm,That's it! You present others with the truth – by showing
them the things that they are missing from their big picture;
the chaff will naturally fall away as they change their own mind.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,02:21) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,09:07) Did you know it was Nathan who Prophesied the U.S.A.?
I have never heard of such a thing. Let me know if you find it.
Hi Mike,I'll keep looking.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,07:13) ..But also be prepared to battle for truth
Hi 2Besee,Yes, but we must be ready to beat our swords into plowshares.
In war there are causalities, going to war should be the last resort.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J.
No one can change anyone's mind. Only the person who possesses the mind can change his own mind.
That said, making an example of someone because they are blindly stubborn often helps those who read to see how blindness works and if they are wise, then set out to not make the same error.
So it is not always about coercing the person to change. It is about making an example of them to help others to not repeat their way.
We also refute those who oppose truth. If they go unopposed, then that can mistaken for accepting their message for truth.
He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,09:26) Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 11 2013,03:11) How do we change others minds?
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Don't build barriers for them by presenting with arrogance, snide remarks, etc., but approach the individual with genuine love and show how you believe that truth is better supported in the whole of scripture (not just a verse here and there) using a different viewpoint (and keep an open mind yourself).Then even if you don't “change others minds” at least you won't have to answer for how you handled it.
My opinion – Wm
Hi Wm,That's it! You present others with the truth – by showing
them the things that they are missing from their big picture;
the chaff will naturally fall away as they change their own mind.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Truth is not in number calculations.
Nor limited to just the KJV.
Preaching that as a truth puts people off. (people will not listen to anything that you say in the end).
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