Bloodless atonement

[kerwin]

bodhitharta,

Sin in inherently evil. God actions are inherently righteous, they are not good just because they are his actions. His commands are righteous because he has no ability to sin. James goes so far as to declare the God cannot be tempted by evil. It is impossible to be truly righteous without God.

[bodhitharta]

Hi Kerwin

bodhitharta,

Sin in inherently evil. God actions are inherently righteous, they are not good just because they are his actions. His commands are righteous because he has no ability to sin. James goes so far as to declare the God cannot be tempted by evil. It is impossible to be truly righteous without God.

That is exactly how I see it. God can do or command to be done whatever He pleases. He cannot be tempted because there is nothing He lacks.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

You quote His words then deny His truth.

[Ed J]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD,

1) “The Passover” is the lamb’s blood put on the door to protect the children of Israel from the curse of death.

2) Adam is the firstborn in the embodiment you are suggesting – Jesus was made as the second (adam) Man.

3) That is what Scripture says:
“But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot” (1Peter 1:19)

4) The Scripture says “without blemish” you cannot change the words and then calim it’s wrong

5) Trying to use “The Bible” to prove the bible wrong is (in my opinion) idiotic.

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God bless
Ed J

Thank you, for engaging in a proper way. Okay so you are saying that Jesus is this lamb to not block the curse of physical death but of spiritual death, correct?

You regard without blemish as without sin and not without physical blemish is that Correct?

You also think the scriptures cannot be used to prove that understanding of the scriptures are wrong, is that correct?

Well, as I said I commend you on at least presenting an argument unlike Nick who just says “you are wrong” with seldom any foundation.

First of all Jesus said may the will of God be done on earth as it is in Heaven, The entire NT is about Jesus arguing the meaning of the scriptures so what you say is idiotic makes up a large portion of the ministry of Jesus. In-fact he said you must be more righteous than the scribes.

Now regarding the precious blood of Christ is the blood more precious when it is the living or when it is in the dead? The Life is IN THE BLOOD of the LIVING is it not?

Revelation 16:3
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

Hi Bd,

I don’t really believe that you are interested in my view, but I have
started a thread to discuss what I believe if you are really interested…

What does Ed J believe?

We can discuss questions like these on that thread.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi AndrewAD,

I did read the entire book of Enoch,
where in it does he claim to be judge?

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

Bodhitharta,

It is not about God lacking or lacking anything but rather about who he is. We are told he is Love and those words sum up his character. He commands are loving because he loves us and desires that we love ourselves and others as he loves us.

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