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Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,15:08) Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:50) Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,14:44) HEY Ken, gene doesn’t seem harsh, he just doesn’t see things the same, that’s not harsh, we can receive others thoughts as way to personal, but I think that’s a desire towards a hope in unity,
And what would you have dine if I told you swollow a camel but choke on a nat. I neve did say anything “worse” that that.Or you are so blind you can't tell the forest because of the trees and you should try reading in context “you might learn something”!
MY MY MY If I said that i would be hung EVEN IF I”M RIGHT which ALL of you say I am!
Take a vote I WILL GLADLY BE KICKED OUT FOR SHARING THE WORD OF GOD. Praise His Holy Name!!!!!
One minute I’m no longer a female
Then a woman that needs to quietAny way, yep ,I think I can find house work to do to make myself usfull Ken
Thanks gene
cya
Well what would you have done charity?Charity try reading things in context who knows you just may learn something! How's that sit with you, OK I suppose
What if I said that to you or Mandy or Mrs?Now Gene would never speak to you like that. But scripture says their is NO Male or Female in Christ. So what is good for the gander is good for the goose ( Is that how it goes)
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2007,15:12) Kenrch…> ken quite trying to make yourself into a martyr no one is trying to persecute you . lets just stay with the subject matter on the thread, calm down ok…..gene
Gene who do you think you are to tell me to do anything! You are not forgiven Gene remember! That's what you want you got it!Ok Gene teach us about love!
Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:50) Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,14:44) HEY Ken, gene doesn’t seem harsh, he just doesn’t see things the same, that’s not harsh, we can receive others thoughts as way to personal, but I think that’s a desire towards a hope in unity,
And what would you have dine if I told you swollow a camel but choke on a nat. I neve did say anything “worse” that that.Or you are so blind you can't tell the forest because of the trees and you should try reading in context “you might learn something”!
MY MY MY If I said that i would be hung EVEN IF I”M RIGHT which ALL of you say I am!
Take a vote I WILL GLADLY BE KICKED OUT FOR SHARING THE WORD OF GOD. Praise His Holy Name!!!!!
Kenrch….> I never wrote that you are misquoting me again what is wrote was quoting Jesus who “said they strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.” meanning a person can look for the little picky points and miss the big picture. Your taking symbolic thing as literal, and taking them as personel put downs. We all do these things at time so calm down…thanks …gene.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2007,15:31) Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:50) Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,14:44) HEY Ken, gene doesn’t seem harsh, he just doesn’t see things the same, that’s not harsh, we can receive others thoughts as way to personal, but I think that’s a desire towards a hope in unity,
And what would you have dine if I told you swollow a camel but choke on a nat. I neve did say anything “worse” that that.Or you are so blind you can't tell the forest because of the trees and you should try reading in context “you might learn something”!
MY MY MY If I said that i would be hung EVEN IF I”M RIGHT which ALL of you say I am!
Take a vote I WILL GLADLY BE KICKED OUT FOR SHARING THE WORD OF GOD. Praise His Holy Name!!!!!
Kenrch….> I never wrote that you are misquoting me again what is wrote was quoting Jesus who “said they strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.” meanning a person can look for the little picky points and miss the big picture. Your taking symbolic thing as literal, and taking them as personel put downs. We all do these things at time so calm down…thanks …gene.
I never said you said that to me Gene! The point is you said it and not with “love” either. You accuse me of nic picking isn't that what you did with me? Telling me I should be careful and be more gentile and I'm puffed up HA! WHILE you do the same thing.Brother's – tearing one another a part again?
If I could, I would put you both in “time out” just like I do my children.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2007,14:44) to all …..lets get back on track here and use scriptures to give us a better word understanding. now seeing that (repentence) is an issue lets talk about that.
To me to repent means to come to see my error and change my mind about it, which i look at it as a way to grow. what do you all think.
Brother Gene,I agree with what you have shared here. Jesus said that the women was forgiven but to go and sin no more.
When we repent and are forgiven, there is a certain responsibility that we bear to go and “sin no more.”
942767…..> you know whats interesting is in Acts 2:36 Peter said “therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ”. 37, Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest< "men and brethren, what shall we do?" 38 Then Peter said to them "REPENT", and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall recieve the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Two important things happened here one they did not repent until they were convicted in there hearts and that was brought about by the presents of the Holy Spirit and it caused them to repent of what they did to Jesus and acceptence of him as the Christ or messiaha , and the ones that recieved it gladly were baptized for the (remission) of sins. So for true repentence to work there has to be some kind of acknowledgement of the sin. And I beleive it that way with all true repentence there has to be a change of Heart and mind…peace brother….geneQuote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,15:17) Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,15:08) Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:50) Quote (charity @ Sep. 05 2007,14:44) HEY Ken, gene doesn’t seem harsh, he just doesn’t see things the same, that’s not harsh, we can receive others thoughts as way to personal, but I think that’s a desire towards a hope in unity,
And what would you have dine if I told you swollow a camel but choke on a nat. I neve did say anything “worse” that that.Or you are so blind you can't tell the forest because of the trees and you should try reading in context “you might learn something”!
MY MY MY If I said that i would be hung EVEN IF I”M RIGHT which ALL of you say I am!
Take a vote I WILL GLADLY BE KICKED OUT FOR SHARING THE WORD OF GOD. Praise His Holy Name!!!!!
One minute I’m no longer a female
Then a woman that needs to quietAny way, yep ,I think I can find house work to do to make myself usfull Ken
Thanks gene
cya
Well what would you have done charity?Charity try reading things in context who knows you just may learn something! How's that sit with you, OK I suppose
What if I said that to you or Mandy or Mrs?Now Gene would never speak to you like that. But scripture says their is NO Male or Female in Christ. So what is good for the gander is good for the goose ( Is that how it goes)
Brother,You don't have to give us special treatment if it is not in your heart to do so. However, there are men who feel the calling of God to cover the women as the weaker sex.
I believe Paul gave instructions for women to learn at home because of the teaching that: the head of every women is the man. Out of respect for the “chain of command” he instructed women to learn at home.
He didn't give this instruction because he thought that women were too chatty, or that women could not understand basic instructions; this would be pig-headed thinking on Paul's part. Paul was an intelligent man who respected women, and remembered that they were given to man as a help mate.
Not3in1….> glad you joined in, and whats else is great about true repentence it's a work that God does in us through HIS Holy Spirit. I have done a lot of things wrong in my life that I no longer do Thanks to Our Father the One and only true GOD, and My brother Jesus Christ. peace to you and yours…..gene
Yes, bro, it's the “go and sin no more” that I seem to have a problem with!
But I do try to please the Father, and I do try to walk away from temptation. I have sensed that the LORD is testing me lately. Some tests I have passed with flying colors; other tests I have failed miserably. As Paul says – we press on towards the goal – we haven't attained it yet – we press on!Love to you tonight brother!
Goodnight,
MandyQuote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:02) Is what I said any worse that this? Cult buster…..You say Jesus didn't denie he was the Great I Am, when they accused him of making himself God, So why did he not SAY Yes I AM, The ALMIGHTY GOD then. And why is there no place in the scriptures where Jesus said I am Almighty God, doin't you think if that were the case He would Have Just came out and Said it. And who was he praying to and telling us to pray to. And why did he say I am going to MY GOD AND YOUR GOD MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER. You trinitarians all do the same thing, you get caught up in little obsqure scriptures that can go either way and where translators have forced the text and forget the obvious ones that are clear. You remind me of the Jesus' words ” you strain out a gnat and swollow a camel.
Back to topMy God If I had said that to one of the women I would be hung…isn't that right?
I've news for you guys their are no male or female in Christ Gal.3:28
kenrchGood point Kenrch!
It seems its ok when certain ones accuse others of false doctrine or lies or deceptions of satan or doctrines of Babylon or the whore or they are not saved but decieved, and on and on, yet when someone says such about them then suddenly that one is condemning and proud and critical and ministers of satan.
Mandy I know what you are saying. To overcome our Human nature is very hard to do. In the past I always asked God show me my faults. And of course He did big times. I too have failed some tests, and it is comforting to me that we have a Savior that has died for our Sins. Now a days it is more the inner man I have problems with. Just thinking and sinning which God has revealed to me. Not to get angry so quickly, to take whatever comes our way. Not to be self righteous. To even recognize it. And then to repent of it. The Holy Spirit shows me when I go wrong, and that is so great.
I do not believe that we are ever going to overcome Human Nature completely. Like Paul says in
Romans 7: 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand, For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.
But we should never give up trying.
One Day we will not have to worry about Satan anymore, and I hope for one it is sooner then later.Peace and Love Mrs.:D
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2007,16:06) 942767…..> you know whats interesting is in Acts 2:36 Peter said “therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ”. 37, Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest< "men and brethren, what shall we do?" 38 Then Peter said to them "REPENT", and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall recieve the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Two important things happened here one they did not repent until they were convicted in there hearts and that was brought about by the presents of the Holy Spirit and it caused them to repent of what they did to Jesus and acceptence of him as the Christ or messiaha , and the ones that recieved it gladly were baptized for the (remission) of sins. So for true repentence to work there has to be some kind of acknowledgement of the sin. And I beleive it that way with all true repentence there has to be a change of Heart and mind…peace brother….gene
Amen, Brother and the fact is is that all of us have sinned, and all of us have faults that we need to overcome. We haven't arrived yet.Quote 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? God Bless
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2007,16:48) Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 05 2007,14:02) Is what I said any worse that this? Cult buster…..You say Jesus didn't denie he was the Great I Am, when they accused him of making himself God, So why did he not SAY Yes I AM, The ALMIGHTY GOD then. And why is there no place in the scriptures where Jesus said I am Almighty God, doin't you think if that were the case He would Have Just came out and Said it. And who was he praying to and telling us to pray to. And why did he say I am going to MY GOD AND YOUR GOD MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER. You trinitarians all do the same thing, you get caught up in little obsqure scriptures that can go either way and where translators have forced the text and forget the obvious ones that are clear. You remind me of the Jesus' words ” you strain out a gnat and swollow a camel.
Back to topMy God If I had said that to one of the women I would be hung…isn't that right?
I've news for you guys their are no male or female in Christ Gal.3:28
kenrchGood point Kenrch!
It seems its ok when certain ones accuse others of false doctrine or lies or deceptions of satan or doctrines of Babylon or the whore or they are not saved but decieved, and on and on, yet when someone says such about them then suddenly that one is condemning and proud and critical and ministers of satan.
Tell me that the doctrine is false and i will prove you wrong with scripture. And I will prove your doctrine wrong with scripture but I never ever said that you were too “harsh” OR puffed up. You people in the trinity thread go round and round without tell each other they are harsh OR puffed up.The whole thing is some people don't like the way I talk to women I talk to women about the word the way I talk to ANYBODY.
That's why NOTHING was said when N3I1 defended Christmas even though they knew better WHY? Because they didn't want to hurt their feeligs?
The truth is the truth. I'm not being condemed for sharing the Truth I'm being condemed for telling it like it is!
Tell me I'm following the whore that's fine …prove it! Tell me I'm deceived that's fine….prove it! Well as it is they can't say any of those things about me so they Nic pick about the “way I present the truth”.
From now on I'll just let the women go the wrong way because I don't want to hurt their feelings.
The scripture say this and that's the way it is! I'm not going to compromise the truth for NO BODY!
And if ANYONE doesn't like it then kick me off the forum!!
The sword is sharp and when it cuts it hurts. There is nothing i can do about that.
Here is the Post that I was SO harsh and PUFFED UP! Show me where Gene since you are the Accuser.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 31 2007,16:46)
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 31 2007,15:49)
Mandy dear you are not offending me I'm just asking questions because I don't understand why someone would wnat to keep a pagan day……Christian. A day that the World, athiest, and all drunks keep. I'll bet Stu keeps Christmas. BTW I “think” heathens who were worshipping a sun god on his birthday (Dec. 25th) was made christian by Constantine in order to unite his kingdom.Well, the pagens may have made the Day (Christmas), I don't know for sure, but I am celebrating the Day with joy and gladness. I am not seeing the pagen intentions, nor is my heart leaning in any way towards those intentions; I just see Christ. I believe that is what the passage in Col. is saying; don't let anyone give you a hard time about keeping certain festivals and Sabbaths – none of the “ceremony” means anything! It's all about Christ.
Hey, by the way, I like Stu. I sort of think he used to be a sold out Christian and got burned somewhere along the line; or perhaps gave way to fear and the enemy got in and stole the seed that was planted in him? I don't know, but at any rate, he is here…….and I believe the love of God can flow through us to him.
See, as far as the date goes – I don't care when it (Christmas) is. It doesn't matter to me, it's part of the ceremony that doesn't mean anything at all. The only thing that matters is Christ, and our hearts towards the greatest gift and sacrifice every given! That's just my take on this bro.
Hi!, It's me ,
So you are saying “spiritually” you keep His birthday not the day itself. You are following the Spirit by keeping Dec 25.
I don't understand why their is a split of the same Spirit? Something doesn't click.
I don't know Stu I only know that he attacks God. Their are some I believe born TARES. Is Stu one? I don't know I can only go by his fruit and his fruit seems to be rotten. “You will KNOW them by their fruit”.
You say that Col. 2:16 is saying not to judge those who want to keep a Festival. Wow! Then you will be keeping God's holy days or does that just apply to Dec.25th?
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.Handwriting against us.
Principalities and powers, triumphing over them
Therefore let no man judge in holy days… but not pagan days?Sorry Sis I just can't see it your way. If you can make “anyday” His birthday then I suppose you could make “anyday” His Sabbath day. If you can break the forth commandment then why not the other nine also?
So we disagree OR agree to disagree, all that is nice but the fact is someone is wrong. I'm not judging you Mandy I'm disagreeing with your belief as you have NO scripture for the worldly pagan holiday. No scripture says NOT to keep Dec 25th. Well I don't know about that but the facts says Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th and the facts say that pagans celebrated a false god on that day. Then we have the world that celebrate it and if it were a holy day would certainly be blaspheming God just by the way they keep it. The fact is their are more suicides on Dec 25th then at anytime of the year, more automobile crashes resulting in deaths because of the partying on “Christ's Birthday”. I'm sure He's pleased .
See here's the thing your spirit see's nothing wrong with all this while my spirit dose.
2Co 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
While people say they are honoring Christ on this day. While they stand before a tree decked out and open their presents that are under the tree, and take their last drink for the road, hoping not to get stopped by a Cop who has probably had a few also. I can't see how that is honoring Christ!
Well some do honor Christ! But the fact is most do not. It's just an excuse to party in the name of Jesus.
But you are among the few that dose. But scripture says not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. But they believe. Do they? “You will know them by their fruit”. A Christian walk is full of choices and the fact that Satan appears as an angel of light doesn't help, 2Cor.11:14.
I'm sorry that I strongly disagree with your belief that you are free to keep a worldly day and that God will honor that.
In His Peace,
Ken
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MAN—FIRST DAY
GOD–SEVENTH DAY
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 06 2007,01:51) The scripture say this and that's the way it is! I'm not going to compromise the truth for NO BODY! And if ANYONE doesn't like it then kick me off the forum!!
Brother Ken,Listen to youself.
Wasn't it too long ago that you were asking us all to forgive you because of your pride, and because you were doing the truth a dis-service?
I'm not sure if you are going through a hard time in your life, or maybe you just need some encouragement? But ministering for the Lord is a joy – the message of the gospel that we are intrusted with is GOOD NEWS!
Jesus wants us to share the truth, that much is true. But certainly he doesn't want us to slap the truth in someone's face and tell them it's for their own good? What would that accomplish?
There is a fine line between being stern with the truth, and sharing the truth in love. We all (myself included) need to be sensitive to this. I believe Jesus would want us to be considerate of one another, especially the family of believer's.
James 3:17
But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 06 2007,05:20) Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 06 2007,01:51) The scripture say this and that's the way it is! I'm not going to compromise the truth for NO BODY! And if ANYONE doesn't like it then kick me off the forum!!
Brother Ken,Listen to youself.
Wasn't it too long ago that you were asking us all to forgive you because of your pride, and because you were doing the truth a dis-service?
I'm not sure if you are going through a hard time in your life, or maybe you just need some encouragement? But ministering for the Lord is a joy – the message of the gospel that we are intrusted with is GOOD NEWS!
Jesus wants us to share the truth, that much is true. But certainly he doesn't want us to slap the truth in someone's face and tell them it's for their own good? What would that accomplish?
There is a fine line between being stern with the truth, and sharing the truth in love. We all (myself included) need to be sensitive to this. I believe Jesus would want us to be considerate of one another, especially the family of believer's.
James 3:17
But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
Sister Mandy,Was I too harsh with you? Did you find I was “puffed up”?
The truth is Sister I'm tired of being falsely accused and especially by Gene WHO said nothing concerning the Sabbath and nothing concerning the pagan day Christmas. But found it necessary to accuse me of being puffed up and “harsh”.
Read the Post Sister was it TOO harsh was I puffed up? Read any post you want and you will find the same with all who are in the forum.
Take a vote Sister! And listen to yourself how you were giving the same instruction to 94 that I gave to you But I was condemned for it!Ha!
Quote Jesus wants us to share the truth, that much is true. But certainly he doesn't want us to slap the truth in someone's face and tell them it's for their own good? What would that accomplish? I don't start “slapping the truth” until those reject “not what I say but scripture says. Yes that I get defensive. Like you Mandy you were judging me for riding my motorcycle on the Sabbath even though you knew nothing about it! But now what are you teaching? “94 we keep the Sabbath spiritually”.
Again the Post in question WAS IT HARSH AND WAS I BEING PUFFED UP?
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