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    Elizabeth
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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 19 2010,08:21)
    The claim that the Bible is a complete guide to truth creates an insurmountable problem for the person believing in Sola Scriptura.  This is owing to the fact that it (the Bible) expressly declares that it is not complete.

    All that is in the Bible is true, but not all that is true is to be found written in the Bible.

    Christ commanded his apostles to teach mankind “all things whatsoever I have commanded you” (Matt. 28:20). Yet St. John concludes his Gospel by saying, “There are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written” (John 21:25).

    One who declares that the Bible by itself is a complete guide is therefore professing a doctrine not only NOT contained in the Bible, but one at variance with it.


    CA

    And who do you say has all this “unwritten” truth, the pope?

    Georg

    #180634

    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 26 2010,04:58)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 25 2010,22:26)
    Catholic apologist, So I guess the individual who is molested by a priest horrr-ibly that leaves the church out of trama is lost from leaving the church? Also you never answered my post in “invisible church” thread about the secrets and rituals in the k of c, or good friday” cross lie “


    Yes, a person who is molested by a priest commits the sin of apostasy if they leave willfully.  This is a grave sin.  

    Answer me this.

    Was it Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist who did the molesting?  God forbid and a thousand times NO!

    So why would a molested person remove themself from the source of life because of someone who HAS?

    In the Church is the grace of God.  Outside the Church is damnation.

    If you do not answer me this rightly, I will know who's you are.


    mikeangel? Your answer?

    #180650
    NickHassan
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    Hi CA,
    Then you should join the body of Christ.
    The foolish roman imitation can only offer death.

    #180833
    Elizabeth
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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 27 2010,12:36)
    In the Church is the grace of God.  Outside the Church is damnation.


    CA

    Considering what church you're talking about, I say, you got it backwards.

    Georg

    #181196
    terraricca
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    CA
    so you doomed if you stay and you doomed if you leave, you there for doomed if you did not joint.

    show me who has that power to say that ????

    doomed if you stay;because you get lied to,abused,
    doomed if you leave;because the church could not protect you and do not see your abuse ,only sees you money,and use scare tactics to keep you in line and being abused ,morally and physically.

    doomed if you did not joint;wen you see all the abuses,and the devil wealth,the miscarriage of justice for century's,and then you have the guts to say that someone is doomed if he don't joint.

    i don't know who is the bigger nut the one who ask or the one who joint that religion ???what you think CA ???

    #382820
    NickHassan
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    Hi ,
    False religion blinds and destroys millions who sincerely believe being faithful to the teachings of men impresses God

    #382822
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick……How true brother.

    peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

    #382961
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,21:31)
    Hi ,
    False religion blinds and destroys millions who sincerely believe being faithful to the teachings of men impresses God


    Not so.

    True believers will find if they seek.
    Blind followers are deceived because of not bother seeking.
    They depend on hearing smooth words.
    Like this one: No,you shall not surely die,but you will be as gods.

    This is why the doom and gloom is never preached in church.

    Doom and gloom to the world: but a rejoicing to the lovers of God.

    wakeup.

    #382965
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    Should the children of God be sad and gloomy?

    #452033
    sonofGod
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    Only scripture is scripture.

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God II Timothy 3:16

    all other writings are not the scriptures given by inspiration of God

    Only scripture is scripture.

    God alone authored scripture.

    Scripture is both perfect and complete to accomplish that which the author, God, intended it to be.

    II Timothy 3:16-17

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

    #452330
    terraricca
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    Jn 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,

    Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

    what is that makes people not believe ?

    #458716
    sonofGod
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    Ter,

    Yes indeed, God’s word is truth.

    All other words, ie, man’s words, are suspect

    #459197
    terraricca
    Participant

    sog

    can you answer my question ?

    what makes people not believe ?

    #466557
    sonofGod
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    People have free will

    If they choose to exercise their free will, they can choose to either believe God or not believe God

    Those who choose to believe God are called believers.

    Those who do not choose to believe God are called unbelievers.

    Yet, all people believe something.. Maybe they believe that they had parents or that they are victims of society

    Believers can believe that God is their Heavenly Father and that they are victorious in Christ.

    What do you choose to believe?

    God’s words or man’s words?

    #736451
    NickHassan
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    Hi SOG,
    Those who know about God are not called believers
    Those that act on that knowledge and obey the command to be born again are

    #820110
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Men love to introduce doubts about the sacred scriptures.

    To do so lays a platform for them to claim expertise and to offer their own insipid teachings.

     

    But only the ignorant and insecure would follow them.

    Test all things and hold fast to what is good.

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