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Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2012,12:36) Nick, I think Wakeup is envisioning a time like the one spoken of in Daniel 7:25. I believe he is saying that when a kingdom like that comes into power, and we are requested by the king to do things that would profane the name of Jehovah, then we are no longer under the obligation that Peter spoke about in the scripture I just posted.
He is saying that when man's law comes in conflict with God's law, we are to obey God's law over man's law every time.
Mikeb.I could not have explained it better.
wakeup.
To all;
We are to love our follow man and so seek to be at peace with them and with God. We cannot love our fellow human if we do not remain at peace with God. If our fellow human wants us to violate out peace with God to be at peace with him then he has chosen to violate the peace; not us. This applies authorities or anyone else you care to name.
The government of the some nations has long since given lip service to religious freedom by outlawing religious practices they do not approve of even to serve good. Babylon will have her day.
Quote (kerwin @ June 22 2012,19:59) To all; We are to love our follow man and so seek to be at peace with them and with God. We cannot love our fellow human if we do not remain at peace with God. If our fellow human wants us to violate out peace with God to be at peace with him then he has chosen to violate the peace; not us. This applies authorities or anyone else you care to name.
The government of the some nations has long since given lip service to religious freedom by outlawing religious practices they do not approve of even to serve good. Babylon will have her day.
Kerwin.When the time comes to make a choice; to obey the rules of the nation that is strongly against God or to obey Gods laws.
This is the time when lip worshippers must make a definite choice.He who loves father ,mother ,brother,sister,sons or daughters more than me; is not worthy of me.(these will be hard times for the luke warm christians).
He who save his life will loose it,and he who looses his life for my sake will find life.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
So such situations have not arisen and we should not become like the political rebels of the world.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2012,21:20) Hi WU,
So such situations have not arisen and we should not become like the political rebels of the world.
Nick.Any type of rebellion is not right with God,accept rebelling to keep the faith.Example: protesting for more wages,or going on strike.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,03:28) (these will be hard times for the luke warm christians).
I believe these will be even harder times (physically) for the devout Christians. Many of us will be put to death or die of starvation for remaining true to God and His Christ and refusing the mark. It is foretold. Whether these times will happen in our lifetime or 5000 years from now is anybody's guess, for not even the Son knows.Hi MB,
The severe testing is for those bridesmaids not found clothed in Christ and not rescued, who find salvation through the great tribulation.
They are a great crowd.Rev 7. 9-14Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 23 2012,09:40) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,03:28) (these will be hard times for the luke warm christians).
I believe these will be even harder times (physically) for the devout Christians. Many of us will be put to death or die of starvation for remaining true to God and His Christ and refusing the mark. It is foretold. Whether these times will happen in our lifetime or 5000 years from now is anybody's guess, for not even the Son knows.
Hi MikeB.No dont say that; it is coming very,very soon.
Just watch the EU and you will see that there will be only 10 leaders left;and they will be very strong,because with 10 members its easy to reach an agreement,but not with 27members.It is also possible that they will change the EU SYMBOL.
Once the 10 will become compact,they will be mighty powerful.
And then this man will show himself,with spiritual powers and miracles,and great words against the most high.
he will uproot 3 leaders(kings),and he will take over power.He will lead,and he is the one that is going to declare war against the christians.He will close down all places of worship,an declare himself god.He also will cause the whole system to collapse(bankrupt).ready for a new system.
All must worship him,and he will make the number compulsory for everyone to have. no number,no buy or sell,or do business.He will bring peace for one hour,and then war will break loose,he will attack israel,but with a secret agreemeent with them.(God said in Isiah28:15–18).
Jerusalem will fall(Jer.25:29.) israel will be trodden by the gentiles for 3 and half yrs.(rev11:2).
He will build his temple there,but first he must destroy the dome.Then the king of the medes and his allies(muslems) and the king of the north(russia?)will stand up,and this will be the war of all wars.But jesus will appear in the clouds to stop this war,or no flesh shall be saved.
When they see this happening ,they will stop the war and point their guns up, seeing it as an invasion from outer space.
This is the great delusion.This is what satan has been working on for centuries,this is where all these UFO phenomenons comes in,to deceive the nations.Because no one in their right mind would ever war against the creator,this is stupid.
Where do I get all this info. from?
Is by putting the prophesies together to form this big picture.
So mike,it is near,very near,just watch,and listen what is going on in europe.Wait for the10.kings.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,17:46) So mike,it is near,very near,just watch,and listen what is going on in europe.Wait for the10.kings.
You seem to be on top of this, Wakeup. Please keep us on HN informed as things with the EU progress.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,18:00) Hi WU,
Nobody can remove the place of worship for those who worship in spirit and in truth.
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On this you right and agree with youQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,11:00) Hi WU,
Nobody can remove the place of worship for those who worship in spirit and in truth.
Nick.The true worshippers,have their house build on rock.
I agree, these ones can not be shaken.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,12:50) Hi WU,
They carry a treasure within them and can worship their God anywhere.
nick.This is true.
The hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain,nor yet at jerusalem,worship the Father.God is a spirit: and they that worship him must worhip him in spirit and in truth.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,15:45) Hi WU,
The worldly church is of politics.
MikeB.Read isiah ch.47.
Jer. 25:29–38.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,15:46) Hi WU,
Yes the wrath of God will be terrible against the people of Jerusalem.
Hi Nick.God will send the northern armies to attack israel,they will be trodden down for 3half years,then christ will destroy whole babylon the great.
The idea is to bring them (armies)all to one place,then the destruction.wakeup.
Hi,
God does not contradict Himself.
We are to obey earthly rulers.1.Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.God will provide
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