BEWARE OF THE LEAVEN,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The water of baptism
Read acts.
Heb10 19f
“Since then brothers we have confidence to enter the holy place by the BLOOD of Jesus…having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water”

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,10:41)

Yes journey,  But the churches you judge have done what you are doing. They build on human Logic applied to one verse. We have to do better to be servants.

Nick

If God says, This is my Son, I am well pleased in him
and a church says
No it's not his son, it's God himself

then wouldn't logic tell you
….hang on a minute…
God said it was his son, but the church says it's really God.
then your brain would be going a million miles an hour thinking God doesn't lie, why would he trick us about something so important, Jesus never claimed to be the Father, he called us brothers and sisters, not sons, and so forth

Logic plays a very important role. It stops us from being deceived. Helps us to filter out untruths.

I don't believe the churches have built on logic. If they did, then they wouldn't of come up with all these strange doctrines that contradict and don't make sense. Totally illogical to me.

We are going in circles now, doesn't profit anything.
Have a nice day.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,19:17)

Hi T, The water of baptism Read acts. Heb10 19f “Since then brothers we have confidence to enter the holy place by the BLOOD of Jesus…having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water”

nick

that verse does not talk about the ceremonial water baptism it is an other thing ,what you think it is

[NickHassan]

Hi J,
Let the Spirit rule.
The mind must be renewed [Rom12.2]

We cannot serve two masters

[NickHassan]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2012,13:17)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,19:17) Hi T, The water of baptism Read acts. Heb10 19f “Since then brothers we have confidence to enter the holy place by the BLOOD of Jesus…having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water” nick that verse does not talk about the ceremonial water baptism it is an other thing ,what you think it is

Hi J,
CEREMONIAL?
Faith requires it and it is a WITNESS.[1Jn5]

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,12:17)

Hi T, The water of baptism Read acts. Heb10 19f “Since then brothers we have confidence to enter the holy place by the BLOOD of Jesus…having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water”

Nick H.

Rev22:1.And he showed me a pure river of water of life,clear as crystal,ptoceedingout of the throne of God and of the lamb.
This is the pure water we are washed with.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
No, there it is the Spirit that gives us life.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The same Spirit is spoken of in Jn7.38
The Spirit does not wash us.

[Marlin1]

Nick, I do believe you are right about water baptism. It represents death, burial, and resurrection to us. Born of water and Spirit.

Thanks
Marlin

[NickHassan]

Blessings marlin.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,10:09)

Hi Journey, Yes that is a popular opinion. But it has no basis in fact [Scripture]

Hi Nick,

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. <–this part of the verse you see to overlook (John 3:3-6)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Acts expounds what is necessary in the sight of God.
First birth is flesh and the new birth after cleansing is of the Spirit.

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Natural birth is irrelevant to salvation
Jn 1. 11-13
Flesh profits nothing Jn 6.63

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2012,15:07)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,12:17) Hi T, The water of baptism Read acts. Heb10 19f “Since then brothers we have confidence to enter the holy place by the BLOOD of Jesus…having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water” Nick H. Rev22:1.And he showed me a pure river of water of life,clear as crystal,ptoceedingout of the throne of God and of the lamb. This is the pure water we are washed with. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup, correct, this is that water…

Eph 5:26-27 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by “The Word”,
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle,
or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Indeed ED,
The Word washes the Body of Christ.
Seek ye first the kingdom

[mikeboll64]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 19 2012,20:09)

Logic plays a very important role.

Thank you, journey. I agree.

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,16:36)

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 19 2012,20:09) Logic plays a very important role. Thank you, journey.  I agree.

Jude 1:10 Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.

me to

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,07:46)

Indeed ED, The Word washes the Body of Christ. Seek ye first the kingdom

Nick.

Millions and millions of Christians are babtised with water; yet they have to go through the plagues,the wrath of God.

The water has not cleansed them,that is so obvious.

Rev 7:14.And I said unto him,sir thou knowest. And he said to me,These are they which came out of great tribulation AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES, and made them white IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

These are babtised christians that has to be washed,and given white robes;FOR THEY WERE NOT WHITE BEFORE.

All the babtising in water did not make them clean.
Anybody can babtize with water;but can just anybody be babtised by the holyspirit?
Water babtism is good if performed by the right person,but dont base you safety on that.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
False church magic rituals are uselessness.

Baptism in the name of Jesus is for repentance that man is judged clean to hold what is HOLY.
All still sin and need to wash their feet[Jn 13. 1Jn2]

[Marlin1]

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Rev 7:14.And I said unto him,sir thou knowest. And he said to me,These are they which came out of great tribulation AND HAVE WASHED  THEIR ROBES, and made them white IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

Wakeup,

These are the foolish virgin spoke of in Matthew.  They came to there senses when the bride left.  They didn't take the mark of the beast during the great tribulation. They gave their lives.

God Bless
Marlin

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