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Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,10:32) Journey42, Your post is pretty close. I believe you are in error here.
Quote Then at the appointed time, (Christ's 2nd coming) we will be raised or changed to spirit…. but when we are born again into spirit (changed)
only then, …..Unless you be born again here and now, just as Jesus said, you will never see the kingdom of God. Jesus is not a lier, that man can make His Word of no effect.
What was it at Pentecost, what did the early church have?
God Bless
Marlin
Marlinthis is true and it shows also unless Christ is given you of the holy spirit we would not receive it right ?? yes
so for a person to say that he has the holy spirit would mean that his works are of Christ and his father ??right ?yes,
now if that same person is in contradiction with scriptures the words of Gods truth ,then he would be a liar right ? yes,
this is now solved
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 19 2012,10:32) Unless you be born again here and now,
Marlin,When did Jesus say “here and now”?
Hi ED and Journey,
All fanciful theology.Fallen angels need to be born human and then born again to be saved?
Why would you delve into these dark arts.
Stay in the light.6 This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
He did not come by water only, Nick. I understand that to say that he was not solely a creature of heaven. But he also came by blood – which means he was one of us as well.
The water and spirit came from his Father in heaven. The blood from Mary.
We are currently of spirit and blood only. We must be born again of the water from heaven. It will replace our blood. We will go from being spirit and blood to spirit and water from heaven.
This is what I'm asking about. Does anyone care to comment?
Hi MB,
“He did not come by water only, Nick. I understand that to say that he was not solely a creature of heaven. But he also came by blood – which means he was one of us as well.
The water and spirit came from his Father in heaven. The blood from Mary.
We are currently of spirit and blood only. We must be born again of the water from heaven. It will replace our blood. We will go from being spirit and blood to spirit and water from heaven.”
Does it mean that?
By whose authority do you decide meanings?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,03:57) Hi ED and Journey,
All fanciful theology.Fallen angels need to be born human and then born again to be saved?
Why would you delve into these dark arts.
Stay in the light.
Hi Nick.I am sure you have misunderstood;fallen angels are not to be born flesh.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,04:20) Hi MB,
Can you align Lk 12.50 with 1 Jn5?
Nick.Luke 12:50. But I have a babtism to be –babtized with– and how am I STRAITENED TILL IT BE ACCOMPLISHED!
A BABTISM TO BE BABTISED WITH: WHAT SORT OF BABTISM??
WAKEUP.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,06:50) Hi WU,
I believe of blood.
[1Jn5]
What do you say?
YES NICK.The babtism of suffering,abuse pain and death; to straitened things up, TO STRAITEN THE PATH TO RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Mat.20:22.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,07:46) Hi WU,
Certainly we are baptised into his death[Rom6]
nICK.OUR OLD LIFE OF SINNING SHOULD BE DEAD,THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.BUT IS IT?
NO,WE SOMETIMES GO BACK TO OUR OLD LIFE,THAT IS SINNING.BUT THANKS TO CHRIST HE HAS MERCY,AND FORGIVES.
ONLY CHTRIST IS PERFECT.
IF WE SAY WE DONT SIN WE DECEIVE OUR SELVES.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,03:57) “““Hi ED and Journey,
All fanciful theology.Fallen angels need to be born human and then born again to be saved?
Why would you delve into these dark arts.
Stay in the light.
Hi NickI did not say that that.
True Journey,
You did not mention the fallen angels.
But we should not follow theologians who rely on logic and not scripture.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2012,13:20) Hi MB,
Water from heaven?
Is it in scripture?
Genesis 1
6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.
There is also more. Would you like to discuss it? Or would you rather just make condescending comments?
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