BEWARE OF THE LEAVEN,

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  • #276154
    Wakeup
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    THE LEAVEN OF THE JWS,

    The jws are preaching another Jesus,and another gospel.
    This post is not against the members,but against the leaven of the tract society.(the prison warder.)

    For many have been caught in their trap,and spiritually oppressed; the sheep is in prison but they dont know it. They have been made so drunk with their doctrine; that they can only see what they are told to see.

    They (the so called elders) the specially chosen by God to interpret scriptures:and establish it in their watch tower,and awake magazines, and that is the whole truth. So,read their magazines instead of the bible.(strange flesh.)

    The so called elders are the mediators between God and the flock;they have the holy spirit straight from God.Putting Jesus out of position.The truth is; Jesus is the mediator between God and man.

    They teach that Jesus is michael the arc angel.So it was an angel that died on the cross,an angel that was made flesh??
    But God also said to the angels; to worship Jesus in heb.1:6.Are angels suppose to worship an angel??
    So they are preaching another Jesus.(an angel jesus).

    We are not to worship angels.(rev.22:8.9.)

    They also teach that the kingdom of God started in 1914.thats when Jesus started his kingdom, ruling from heaven,and they only are in that kingdom; (kingdom hall) and the rest are in babylon.

    They also teach that the coming will be invisible,for Jesus is spirit,and we can not see spirit.So that only means that all the flesh living in paradise for ever; can never see Jesus or God.The bible says otherwise;we will see God face to face,he will dwell amongst us.

    They also teach that only the chosen elders will be resurrected in spirit,and the rest will be in the flesh living for ever in paradise. And the rest of the world what??destroyed I suppose.

    They also teach that they dont have anything to do with this world; they dont vote,or salute the flag,or join the armie.
    BUT THEY STILL ENJOY THE DOLLARS,AND THE NICE CARS,AND HOMES,AND THE FOOD,and goods THAT THE NATIONS PRODUCE.And the bank cards,and credit cards.

    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)

    The phrisees like to put burdens on the people, but they them self dont want to lift a finger.

    Beware you brothers and sisters,go back to the flesh of Christ,feed on his flesh only. Put down those magazines,they are the leaven,that makes you drunk.

    It is time to wake up.Go to u tube and check out all the dirty laundry,and it is dark and very,very dirty.
    Dont take my word for it,just check it out.

    I hope you will take note.

    wakeup.

    #276161
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2012,08:33)
    THE LEAVEN OF THE JWS,

    The jws are preaching another Jesus,and another gospel.
    This post is not against the members,but against the leaven of the tract society.(the prison warder.)

    For many have been caught in their trap,and spiritually oppressed; the sheep is in prison but they dont know it. They have been made so drunk with their doctrine; that they can only see what they are told to see.

    They (the so called elders) the specially chosen by God to interpret scriptures:and establish it in their watch tower,and awake magazines, and that is the whole truth. So,read their magazines instead of the bible.(strange flesh.)

    The so called elders are the mediators between God and the flock;they have the holy spirit straight from God.Putting Jesus out of position.The truth is; Jesus is the mediator between God and man.

    They teach that Jesus is michael the arc angel.So it was an angel that died on the cross,an angel that was made flesh??
    But God also said to the angels; to worship Jesus in heb.1:6.Are angels suppose to worship an angel??
    So they are preaching another Jesus.(an angel jesus).

    We are not to worship angels.(rev.22:8.9.)

    They also teach that the kingdom of God started in 1914.thats when Jesus started his kingdom, ruling from heaven,and they only are in that kingdom; (kingdom hall) and the rest are in babylon.

    They also teach that the coming will be invisible,for Jesus is spirit,and we can not see spirit.So that only means that all the flesh living in paradise for ever; can never see Jesus or God.The bible says otherwise;we will see God face to face,he will dwell amongst us.

    They also teach that only the chosen elders will be resurrected in spirit,and the rest will be in the flesh living for ever in paradise. And the rest of the world what??destroyed I suppose.

    They also teach that they dont have anything to do with this world; they dont vote,or salute the flag,or join the armie.
    BUT THEY STILL ENJOY THE DOLLARS,AND THE NICE CARS,AND HOMES,AND THE FOOD,and goods THAT THE NATIONS PRODUCE.And the bank cards,and credit cards.

    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)

    The phrisees like to put burdens on the people, but they them self dont want to lift a finger.

    Beware you brothers and sisters,go back to the flesh of Christ,feed on his flesh only. Put down those magazines,they are the leaven,that makes you drunk.

    It is time to wake up.Go to u tube and check out all the dirty laundry,and it is dark and very,very dirty.
    Dont take my word for it,just check it out.

    I hope you will take note.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    what if you are a JEW,or just talking like one then what would the leaven be ???

    Pierre

    #276166
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    “My sheep… follow me”

    But men much prefer to be guided and dominated by blind men.
    Their insecurity and fear prevents them from seeking salvation in the Lord.

    #276244
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel? ???

    #276276
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,17:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    MIKE

    that is based on the old fashion way to sell in the states door to door AMWAY,AT ONE TIME IT WAS GOOD FOR BUSINESS,AND SO SOME Christians start to use that type of work to spread the gospel well their message , evangelicals,and so they have build their empire in this world.

    Pierre

    #276314
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Hi MIke,

    Luke 10:7 means not to look for a better deal, it is nothing about evangelizing door to door.

    There is a verse that says we should go door to door, which the JW's do do.

    Can someone point me to the specific verse to which I refer?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #276324
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Do you mean Acts 5.42?
    I think the context differs though.

    Preaching is to the unsaved but teaching to the saved.

    #276325
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2012,03:07)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2012,08:33)
    THE LEAVEN OF THE JWS,

    The jws are preaching another Jesus,and another gospel.
    This post is not against the members,but against the leaven of the tract society.(the prison warder.)

    For many have been caught in their trap,and spiritually oppressed; the sheep is in prison but they dont know it. They have been made so drunk with their doctrine; that they can only see what they are told to see.

    They (the so called elders) the specially chosen by God to interpret scriptures:and establish it in their watch tower,and awake magazines, and that is the whole truth. So,read their magazines instead of the bible.(strange flesh.)

    The so called elders are the mediators between God and the flock;they have the holy spirit straight from God.Putting Jesus out of position.The truth is; Jesus is the mediator between God and man.

    They teach that Jesus is michael the arc angel.So it was an angel that died on the cross,an angel that was made flesh??
    But God also said to the angels; to worship Jesus in heb.1:6.Are angels suppose to worship an angel??
    So they are preaching another Jesus.(an angel jesus).

    We are not to worship angels.(rev.22:8.9.)

    They also teach that the kingdom of God started in 1914.thats when Jesus started his kingdom, ruling from heaven,and they only are in that kingdom; (kingdom hall) and the rest are in babylon.

    They also teach that the coming will be invisible,for Jesus is spirit,and we can not see spirit.So that only means that all the flesh living in paradise for ever; can never see Jesus or God.The bible says otherwise;we will see God face to face,he will dwell amongst us.

    They also teach that only the chosen elders will be resurrected in spirit,and the rest will be in the flesh living for ever in paradise. And the rest of the world what??destroyed I suppose.

    They also teach that they dont have anything to do with this world; they dont vote,or salute the flag,or join the armie.
    BUT THEY STILL ENJOY THE DOLLARS,AND THE NICE CARS,AND HOMES,AND THE FOOD,and goods THAT THE NATIONS PRODUCE.And the bank cards,and credit cards.

    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)

    The phrisees like to put burdens on the people, but they them self dont want to lift a finger.

    Beware you brothers and sisters,go back to the flesh of Christ,feed on his flesh only. Put down those magazines,they are the leaven,that makes you drunk.

    It is time to wake up.Go to u tube and check out all the dirty laundry,and it is dark and very,very dirty.
    Dont take my word for it,just check it out.

    I hope you will take note.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    what if you are a JEW,or just talking like one then what would  the leaven be ???

    Pierre


    Pierre.

    The leaven would be what ever teaching you follow; not according the teachings of the true Christ.

    wakeup.

    #276326
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Mike.

    EVERY HOUSE HAS A FRONT DOOR.

    WAKEUP.

    #276328
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2012,01:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Mike.

    EVERY HOUSE HAS A FRONT DOOR.

    WAKEUP.


    Wup

    In those days the rich had doors the poor had entrances this could be different,

    #276331
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2012,18:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2012,01:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Mike.

    EVERY HOUSE HAS A FRONT DOOR.

    WAKEUP.


    Wup

    In those days the rich had doors the poor had entrances this could be different,


    Pierre.

    I see what you mean,but what ever entrance, it is still to be opened to enter in. A tent has an entrance too.

    greetings.

    wakeup.

    #276333
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2012,01:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2012,01:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Mike.

    EVERY HOUSE HAS A FRONT DOOR.

    WAKEUP.


    Wup

    In those days the rich had doors the poor had entrances this could be different,


    Wup

    Did look up that scripture in the Greek codex ? act 5:42

    #276336
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2012,18:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2012,01:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2012,01:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Mike.

    EVERY HOUSE HAS A FRONT DOOR.

    WAKEUP.


    Wup

    In those days the rich had doors the poor had entrances this could be different,


    Wup

    Did look up that scripture in the Greek codex ? act 5:42


    Pierre.

    Yes; and I teach in my house too.
    But I dont walk around and knock on doors.

    wakeup.

    #276443
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2012,22:39)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Hi MIke,

    Luke 10:7 means not to look for a better deal, it is nothing about evangelizing door to door.

    There is a verse that says we should go door to door, which the JW's do do.

    Can someone point me to the specific verse to which I refer?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Acts 20
    20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house. 21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

    Wakeup, should we beware of Paul's leaven. ???

    #276446
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Yes Paul preached to the faithless, and taught his children in Christ.

    #276447
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2012,19:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2012,22:39)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Hi MIke,

    Luke 10:7 means not to look for a better deal, it is nothing about evangelizing door to door.

    There is a verse that says we should go door to door, which the JW's do do.

    Can someone point me to the specific verse to which I refer?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Acts 20
    20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house. 21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

    Wakeup, should we beware of Paul's leaven.  ???


    Mike

    Not all are apostles says Paul,right ? but we all have to testify our faith to all we meet,but not all are teachers,the ability is different to all ,so we do as it is given to us from above,but always in truth ,not opinions,

    and all for the glory of God ,not our self,

    there is nothing in scriptures to my knowledge that tells me that building or create a organization,to spread (?)the good news as they call it ,because it end up having a king man before Christ and God our father ,and so place one extra link to truth,any way we all have to make those choices ,but it is not in scriptures .

    Pierre

    #276503
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2012,12:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2012,22:39)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)
    They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.
    Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)


    Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?  ???


    Hi MIke,

    Luke 10:7 means not to look for a better deal, it is nothing about evangelizing door to door.

    There is a verse that says we should go door to door, which the JW's do do.

    Can someone point me to the specific verse to which I refer?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Acts 20
    20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house. 21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

    Wakeup, should we beware of Paul's leaven.  ???


    Hi MikeB.

    I dont think that paul is contradicting Luke,do you?
    Is it only possible that paul was teaching house to house when ever invited?
    But not knocking on doors?
    Do you think pauls is teaching the leaven of the scribes?

    wakeup.

    #276522
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    The servants of God do not have their own agendas no matter how righteous they may appear.
    They are headless-rev 20.4- and serve the Lord, the head of the Body of Christ.

    Men do not listen and prefer useless striving in their own strength

    #276543
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Wasn't Jesus' last directive to his disciples for them to spread the good news to the ends of the earth, and baptise people in his name? Don't missionaries also follow that commission, just like the JWs do?

    Wakeup, both of the JW hate threads you've started on this site are a waste of space and value.

    You'll do well to remember these words:
    Romans 14:4
    Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

    #276544
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2012,19:59)
    there is nothing in scriptures to my knowledge that tells me that building or create a organization,to spread (?)the good news


    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus built the organization. It is called “the Church”. And we were commissioned by Jesus himself to be his hands and feet, and to spread the good news about God's Kingdom to the ends of the earth.

    I don't see how the JWs aren't doing exactly that………..and therefore don't see the reason behind this thread.

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