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  • #306932
    Ed J
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    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #307077
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO

    EDJ, God is not TEMPED BY SIN or EVIL, there was no Bet between God and a Ha-satan (Spirit) it was God doing it all along even as Job Said It was. And all of Job Relations  knew it also and said so.

    If you read the story very carefully you will find it was God not a “ha-satn” the orchestrated it all along.

    But the story of Job is even Greater then Most realize, it is exactly like the 1000 year Period of Jesus and the Saints rule when “EVIL” is Removed from the Earth and even the Nature of animals will be changed as a result and a thousand years of Peace and order is established on this earth , But look what happen after the thousand years are up and when Evil is reintroduced on this Earth all the earth turns against Jesus and The Saints and fire comes down from Heave and devours them  

    How could such a thing happen if all the earth was keeping all of God Laws and a “PERFECT” World existed, Job was a “PERFECT” Man, But he had to learn a Lesson and so will all the earth Have to at the end of the thousand year Period too.  

    You see because Evil is removed and Peace come when it is reintroduce the Evil also rises and so the question is this, How can a Person be Kept from doing Evil even if it is Present, Notice the Saints and Jesus never turned to Evil when it was released on the earth again, WHY? Because they HAD the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD (IN) THEM. and that Kept them from the EVIL influences of that “SPIRIT” working (in)and (AROUND) us all .

    The people at the end of the thousand year Period will becoming “SELF” “Righteous”. That is why it say and they shall wear out the Saint's of the Most High. How do you tell a righteous man he must be saved , if you say keep the commandments, they would say we already do that, we keep all of God words,  They simple will not know how vulnerable they really are until evil is released again on the earth. They will be “SELF” Righteous As JOB was, and God will have to deal with them Just as He dealt with JOB.  

    The book of Job has far more incite into the future them Most even Begin to Understand . Its not just Evil that can be a Problem it is also “SELF” RIGHTEOUSNESS  which can even draw a more sever Judgment from God.

    Therefore Jesus said why call “me” “Good” there is “ONLY ONE” that is Good and that is God the Father

    Anyway sorry i made this so long but some time it just takes more to explain some thing. IMO

    #307084
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Gene B.

    Now there was A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD,AND –SATAN–CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.(he came from where)?

    AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN——-(God said to himself).

    So satan came from where and roaming around where?
    satan can hear and can have a conversation. he is a creature with a brain.he was the anointed cherub that fell.Ez.28.

    wakeup.

    #307085
    terraricca
    Participant

    gene

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    Terricca……………….Being a Saint does not mean you have no Sin and are Perfected yet. At least according to what Paul said anyway. “If we say we have no Sin we deceive ourselves” says John.

    As far as Judas is concerned He very well could be saved in the future, was not His destiny of betraying Jesus long before his berth determined and spoken of in scriptures. Need proof? i can get the scriptures for you if you can't remember them Brother.

    peace and love to you and yours Pierre………………………………….gene

    no,but your interpretation is a little bit off don't you think ???

    #307086
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,11:15)
    Gene B.

    Now there was A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD  CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD,AND –SATAN–CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.(he came from where)?

    AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN——-(God said to himself).

    So satan came from where and roaming around where?
    satan can hear and can have a conversation. he is a creature with a brain.he was the anointed cherub that fell.Ez.28.

    wakeup.


    JOB 1:7 The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “ From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.”

    #307087
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EGJ……….(1. You pick “TWO” here →) It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. (2. And you pick “ONE here →) This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO


    Hi Gene,

    Seems you picked both one “AND” two  –  so at least we can eliminate Job as a choice.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #307174
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EGJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO

    EDJ, go is not TEMPED BY SIN or EVIL, there was no Bet between God and a Ha-satan (Spirit) it was God doing it all along even as Job Said It was. And all of Job Relations  knew it also and said so.

    If you read the story very carefully you will find it was God not a “ha-satn” the orchestrated it all along.

    But the story of Job is even Greater then Most realize, it is exactly like the 1000 year Perion of Jesus and the Saints rul when “EVIL” is Removed fro the Earth and even the Nature of animals will be changed as a result and a thousand years of Peace and order is established on this earth , But look what happen after the thousand years are up and when Evill is reintroduced on this Earth all the earth turns against Jesus and The Saints and fire comes down from Heave and devours them  

    How could such a thing happen if all the earth was keep all of God Laws and a “PERFECT” World existed Job was a “PERFECT” Man, But he had to learn a Lesson and so will all the earth Have to at the end of the thousand year Period too.  

    You see because Evil is removed and Peace come when it is reintroduce the Evil also rises and so the question is this, How can a Person be Kept from doing Evil even if it is Present, Notice the Saints and Jesus never turned to Evil when it was released on the earth again, WHY? Because they HAD the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD (IN) THEM. and that Kept them from the EVIL influences of that “SPIRIT” Produces (in) us all .

    The people at the end of the thousand year Period will becoming “SELF” “Righteous”. That is why it say and they shall wear out the Saint of the Most High, How do you tell a righteous man he must be saved , if you say keep the commandments they would say we already do that, we keep all of God words,  They simple will not know how vulnerable they really are until evil is released again on the earth. JOB was and God will have to deal with them Just as He dealt with JOB.  

    The book of Job has far more incite into the future them Most even Begin to Understand . Its not just Evil that can be a Problem it is also “SELF” RIGHTEOUSNESS  which can even draw a more sever Judgment from God.

    Therefore Jesus said why call “me” “Good” there is “ONLY ONE” that is Good and that is God the Father

    Anyway sorry i made this so long but some time it just takes more to explain some thing. IMO


    Gene B.

    If you talk to the evil that is inside you ; (you call satan),
    and he answers back?
    I would be very worried about you.

    wakeup.

    #307175
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2012,04:53)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EGJ……….(1. You pick “TWO” here →) It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. (2. And you pick “ONE here →) This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO


    Hi Gene,

    Seems you picked both one “AND” two  –  so at least we can eliminate Job as a choice.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    I am worried about you also;calling satan ;the great I AM.

    wakeup.

    #307183
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 26 2012,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,11:15)
    Gene B.

    Now there was A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD  CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD,AND –SATAN–CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.(he came from where)?

    AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN——-(God said to himself).

    So satan came from where and roaming around where?
    satan can hear and can have a conversation. he is a creature with a brain.he was the anointed cherub that fell.Ez.28.

    wakeup.


    JOB 1:7 The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “ From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.”


    Terricca………. Yes these “Spirits “go to and fro through out the earth

    Zec 6:5…….And the Angel answered and said unto me,  these are the “four spirits” of heaven which go forth and stand before the Lord of all the earth…….., Vers 7 And the bay went forth and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth,; and He came and said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth, So they walked “to and fro” (through) the earth.

    Rev 5:6 And i beheld, and lo,in the midst of the throne and of the four Beasts and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain having seven horns and seven Spirits of God , (now Notice Pierre) which “are” the “SEVEN SPIRITS” of God sent forth “into” (ALL) the earth.

    In the Book of Job ha-satan was one of those Spirits sent forth into all the earth and they do his work he wants done in the earth as they did to Job, they are called sons of God “becasue” God is the one who created them all and they can only do what they are created to do. God who sent them forth can also gather them and bind them as he will in the future and evil will be removed from the earth for a thousand years, and then they shall be released again to go to and fro and effect people and Nation of the earth again for a time. IMO

    Think about it Pierre.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene

    #307184
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,23:01)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EGJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO

    EDJ, go is not TEMPED BY SIN or EVIL, there was no Bet between God and a Ha-satan (Spirit) it was God doing it all along even as Job Said It was. And all of Job Relations  knew it also and said so.

    If you read the story very carefully you will find it was God not a “ha-satn” the orchestrated it all along.

    But the story of Job is even Greater then Most realize, it is exactly like the 1000 year Perion of Jesus and the Saints rul when “EVIL” is Removed fro the Earth and even the Nature of animals will be changed as a result and a thousand years of Peace and order is established on this earth , But look what happen after the thousand years are up and when Evill is reintroduced on this Earth all the earth turns against Jesus and The Saints and fire comes down from Heave and devours them  

    How could such a thing happen if all the earth was keep all of God Laws and a “PERFECT” World existed Job was a “PERFECT” Man, But he had to learn a Lesson and so will all the earth Have to at the end of the thousand year Period too.  

    You see because Evil is removed and Peace come when it is reintroduce the Evil also rises and so the question is this, How can a Person be Kept from doing Evil even if it is Present, Notice the Saints and Jesus never turned to Evil when it was released on the earth again, WHY? Because they HAD the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD (IN) THEM. and that Kept them from the EVIL influences of that “SPIRIT” Produces (in) us all .

    The people at the end of the thousand year Period will becoming “SELF” “Righteous”. That is why it say and they shall wear out the Saint of the Most High, How do you tell a righteous man he must be saved , if you say keep the commandments they would say we already do that, we keep all of God words,  They simple will not know how vulnerable they really are until evil is released again on the earth. JOB was and God will have to deal with them Just as He dealt with JOB.  

    The book of Job has far more incite into the future them Most even Begin to Understand . Its not just Evil that can be a Problem it is also “SELF” RIGHTEOUSNESS  which can even draw a more sever Judgment from God.

    Therefore Jesus said why call “me” “Good” there is “ONLY ONE” that is Good and that is God the Father

    Anyway sorry i made this so long but some time it just takes more to explain some thing. IMO


    Gene B.

    If you talk to the evil that is inside you ; (you call satan),
    and he answers back?
    I would be very worried about you.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup………Where do you get that from what i Wrote? While i might question my own thoughts at times and if they are evil or wrong i try to correct them or bring them into captivity by the Spirit (intellect) which God has given me. My question to you would be Why do you even think that way about me in the first place? That would be more to the point here . IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene

    #307191
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,23:04)
    EDJ.

    I am worried about you also;calling satan ;the great  I AM.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    Whom is worried about me?
    Not to worry, it's true!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #307192
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,06:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,23:04)
    EDJ.

    I am worried about you also;calling satan ;the great  I AM.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    Whom is worried about me?
    Not to worry, it's true!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Fear not

    #307197
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2012,02:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,03:58)
    16……. They that “SEE” you shall narrowly look upon you, and consider you, saying , is this (now Notice) the “man” that made the earth tremble, That did Shake Kingdoms. ………….>


    Wakeup………Why do you and others ignore this part the “MAN” that made the earth tremble  . You not understanding that God used a “proverb” (factious illustration) to present to the King of Babylon by the hand of the Prophet Ezekiel.  

    Lets deal with the man Part and the proverbs part, before we start making all kinds of speculations about the metaphors us by God.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gen


    Hi Gene,

    Are you calling Lucifer – Adam?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #307208
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2012,02:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,23:01)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)
    Hi Gene,

    Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH?   (please pick one)

    1. God
    2. Satan
    3. Job

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EGJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro  through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows.  This “SPIRIT” cause us all to question our actions as (IT)  did GODS.  This Spirit (intellect) made God question His action of Shielding Job from Evil and God in His wisdom used an Evil Spirit to effect Job life.  (IT) had Power given by God to move on Job in an evil way. This all was God's Doing for the benefit of Job. God himself Provoked this Spirit to use (IT). IMO

    EDJ, go is not TEMPED BY SIN or EVIL, there was no Bet between God and a Ha-satan (Spirit) it was God doing it all along even as Job Said It was. And all of Job Relations  knew it also and said so.

    If you read the story very carefully you will find it was God not a “ha-satn” the orchestrated it all along.

    But the story of Job is even Greater then Most realize, it is exactly like the 1000 year Perion of Jesus and the Saints rul when “EVIL” is Removed fro the Earth and even the Nature of animals will be changed as a result and a thousand years of Peace and order is established on this earth , But look what happen after the thousand years are up and when Evill is reintroduced on this Earth all the earth turns against Jesus and The Saints and fire comes down from Heave and devours them  

    How could such a thing happen if all the earth was keep all of God Laws and a “PERFECT” World existed Job was a “PERFECT” Man, But he had to learn a Lesson and so will all the earth Have to at the end of the thousand year Period too.  

    You see because Evil is removed and Peace come when it is reintroduce the Evil also rises and so the question is this, How can a Person be Kept from doing Evil even if it is Present, Notice the Saints and Jesus never turned to Evil when it was released on the earth again, WHY? Because they HAD the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD (IN) THEM. and that Kept them from the EVIL influences of that “SPIRIT” Produces (in) us all .

    The people at the end of the thousand year Period will becoming “SELF” “Righteous”. That is why it say and they shall wear out the Saint of the Most High, How do you tell a righteous man he must be saved , if you say keep the commandments they would say we already do that, we keep all of God words,  They simple will not know how vulnerable they really are until evil is released again on the earth. JOB was and God will have to deal with them Just as He dealt with JOB.  

    The book of Job has far more incite into the future them Most even Begin to Understand . Its not just Evil that can be a Problem it is also “SELF” RIGHTEOUSNESS  which can even draw a more sever Judgment from God.

    Therefore Jesus said why call “me” “Good” there is “ONLY ONE” that is Good and that is God the Father

    Anyway sorry i made this so long but some time it just takes more to explain some thing. IMO


    Gene B.

    If you talk to the evil that is inside you ; (you call satan),
    and he answers back?
    I would be very worried about you.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup………Where do you get that from what i Wrote?  While i might question my own thoughts at times and if they are evil or wrong i try to correct them or bring them into captivity by the Spirit (intellect) which God has given me. My question to you would be Why do you even think that way about me in the first place? That would be more to the point here . IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene


    Gene.B.

    Sorry,but Your doctine says that after all.

    1.satan is just mens thoughts.correct?
    2.satan as a creature does not exist.correct?
    3.But one can have a conversation with satan,as God did have a conversation with satan.Correct?And satan did answer him back.correct?(as in Job).

    Jesus also had a conversation with satan.correct?
    And satan did answered him back.Correct?(as in mathews).

    If satan is just the evil inside –you–,then you also can have a conversation with your self. And that evil mind can also answer you back,as it did answer God and Jesus.

    So I am worried about you if you say that the evil inside your mind can answer you back? You know what they say about people hearing voices.

    wakeup.

    #307221
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,11:15)
    Gene B.

    Now there was A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD  CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD,AND –SATAN–CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.(he came from where)?

    AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN——-(God said to himself).

    So satan came from where and roaming around where?
    satan can hear and can have a conversation. he is a creature with a brain.he was the anointed cherub that fell.Ez.28.

    wakeup.


    Gene,

    This is at least the second time Wakeup has made these points. I have yet to see you DIRECTLY answer them. (And by “directly”, I mean with a word or two, not a novel about your personal beliefs.)

    1. Where did Satan come from, according to the scripture?

    2. When it says, “AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN”, to whom was the Lord talking?

    3. Is Satan a cognoscente being who is able to partake in a conversation with God?

    #307228
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike………The reason i have to go to such lengths is becasue of your and others lack of understanding what a “SPIRIT” even IS. Spirits are LIFE (ITSELF) Not “Beings” They give off their own “cognate” parts of  Life . They come in KINDS and TYPES,  When we are told to Judge the Spirits to see if they are from God, what does that mean to you? Are we not being told to Judging what the person is “saying” and are not their “words” coming from the Spirits (IN) them.  Spirits are Driver that drive our thoughts and are (IN) all Living things. They can be removed and or replaced. From unclean to clean from evil to good. all spirits have existed from eternity and are all created by ONE YAHWEH who is our GOD who (IS) SPIRIT and therefore “LIFE” Itself> IMO

    Why can't you put together what Jesus said, the “WORDS” I am Telling you “ARE” SPIRIT and LIFE Why is that Mike?, is it not because that is exactly what Words (ARE) form, “SPIRITS”, and that composes what “LIFE” (IS)> Get It Mike.  Spirit is what LIFE “ITSELF”(IS) MIKE!.  Think about it Mike.  God (IS) Life , God (IS) SPIRIT ,  if the “SPIRIT” of HIM that was (IN) Christ Jesus be (IN) you (IT) Shall also (like It did him)  “quicken' (bring to life) you “mortal” (DEAD) Bodies . When are you people going to start to get this Mike? you are slow of hearing Jesus would say. IMO

    MIke you use yes no answers to guid people into your way of understanding things which in many cases is totally wrong IMO Brother.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene

    #307231
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Gene,

    That was yet ANOTHER of your novels, telling everyone else that THEY don't understand what spirits are.

    I was asking for DIRECT answers to the questions. Are you able to give them?

    #307233
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wake up are you saying you don't “REASON with in yourself about things and if Not then what do you do, Reasoning with yourself is a “form” of speaking to one self and it is with Word you are reasoning with rather you believe it or not, try reasoning without word in you mind>. Who said i was hearing voices i never said the But the Spirit of a Satan is not a voice it is a Spirit and indeed it is (IN) everyone and must be Mastered By the Spirit of God (IN) a Person Just the same way Jesus Mastered (IT) in the Wilderness. Tell when you ever saw a SATAN tell us what does he look like does he carry a Pitch fork and have a red suit he wears, Show us in any scripture what he looks like in appearance.

    Wakeup tell us what Jesus meant when he said if ” “you “being” “EVIL” (existing in a evil state), know how to give good gifts to your childern, how much more will your Father IN Heaven Given them of His Spiirt that ask

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………gene

    #307234
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2012,11:44)
    Gene,

    That was yet ANOTHER of your novels, telling everyone else that THEY don't understand what spirits are.

    I was asking for DIRECT answers to the questions.  Are you able to give them?


    Mike………That was no Novel it was a direct answer only you seem unable to understand it>

    Peace and love to you and your…………………………………….gene

    #307237
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2012,11:24)
    Mike………The reason i have to go to such lengths is becasue of your and others lack of understanding what a “SPIRIT” even IS. Spirits are LIFE (ITSELF) Not “Beings”  They give off their own “cognate” parts of  Life . They come in KINDS and TYPES,  When we are told to Judge the Spirits to see if they are from God, what does that mean to you? Are we not being told to Judging what the person is “saying” and are not their “words” coming from the Spirits (IN) them.  Spirits are Driver that drive our thoughts and are (IN) all Living things. They can be removed and or replaced. From unclean to clean from evil to good. all spirits have existed from eternity and are all created by ONE YAHWEH  who is our GOD who (IS) SPIRIT and therefore “LIFE” Itself> IMO

    Why can't you put together what Jesus said, the “WORDS” I am Telling you “ARE” SPIRIT and LIFE Why is that Mike?, is it not because that is exactly what Words (ARE) form, “SPIRITS”, and that composes what “LIFE” (IS)> Get It Mike.  Spirit is what LIFE “ITSELF”(IS) MIKE!.  Think about it Mike.  God (IS) Life , God (IS) SPIRIT ,  if the “SPIRIT” of HIM that was (IN) Christ Jesus be (IN) you (IT) Shall also (like It did him)  “quicken' (bring to life) you “mortal” (DEAD) Bodies . When are you people going to start to get this Mike? you are slow of hearing Jesus would say. IMO

    MIke you use yes no answers to guid people into your way of understanding things which in many cases is totally wrong IMO Brother.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene


    Gene B.

    You have not addressed the simple question; can man have a confersation with the evil inside; and will that evil correspond,and answer back? Please explain this first.
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    The evil that is in men is from the time that satan took over in the garden. Mankind has carried that evil(spirit of satan) in side since birth,from generation to generation.(Like an inherited decease).

    Hatred, greed,selfishness,back stabbing,jealousy,wars,material worship,do what is fun and dont care about others,evil converations,unGodly, satanic habits in man must be uprooted,and this is by following Gods guidance,by he instruction book called the bible.

    The unsaved has not been able to resist all these things,and dont know how.
    They say;its human nature,yes but the bad side of human nature.(satans spirit is inside,not satan himself,but his spirit).

    We need to have Gods spirit inside us.

    wakeup.

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