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Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2013,09:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,08:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:34) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,01:05) Wakeup, The man Jesus existed in the form of earth and breath his conception. It is God's breath that gives existence to the human soul and animates the human body. Jesus is a human and was created equal to his brothers and a little lower than the angels.
The word is that which comes out of God's mouth and was among the first of God's works for without nothing would be created that is created. It is with God because it is his word and it is God because it pleased God to put all his fullness in it. It is treated like a being in Scripture for teaching purposes but it not a being.
The word became Jesus the human. It did not do that by being transformed into him as that would defeat God's purpose. Instead it became him by being placed in his soul and written on his spirit.
Note: I just noticed my first sentence can be confusing. Jesus as earth and breath before his conception just like Adam did.
Bumped to show added note.
Kerwin.1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.wakeup.
WSO ACCORDING TO YOU GOD DOES NOT HAVE A SON
T.Not according to me,
but according to you.wakeup.
Wakeup,You previously told me that the Word did not become the Son until he transformed into the human being that was later named Jesus.
Note: Please correct any misunderstanding of your teachings I have; thank you.
Kerwin.That is true. There was no Jesus from heaven.
Jesus was not made flesh,but the Word was.
From Word to Jesus.
From Jesus to Word.wakeup.
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Quote That is true. There was no Jesus from heaven.
Jesus was not made flesh,but the Word was.
From Word to Jesus.
From Jesus to Word.any scriptures ,i do not like old women stories
Bump for Wakeup…………
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,17:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,20:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:34)
Kerwin.1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.wakeup.
WSO ACCORDING TO YOU GOD DOES NOT HAVE A SON
T.Not according to me,
but according to you.wakeup.
Whoa there, horsey.
You're not getting off that easy on this one.
Neither me nor Pierre have EVER said God didn't have a Son.
BUT……… the words YOU posted in the quote box above don't seem to leave any room for a Son of God who is a different being than God Himself. Those words leave no room for a MEDIATOR between us and God.
So Pierre's question is spot on, and extremely valid.
Wakeup, where does the Son OF God fit into your words above?
Is the Son also God Almighty Himself? Is the Son also the Father?
Please explain where exactly the Son who died fits in to your understanding.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,19:40) w Quote That is true. There was no Jesus from heaven.
Jesus was not made flesh,but the Word was.
From Word to Jesus.
From Jesus to Word.any scriptures ,i do not like old women stories
I too would like to see the scripture that prohibits the Son of God's name from being “Jesus” BEFORE Mary was told to name him “Jesus” on earth.What if God caused Gabriel to be born of a woman on earth, and an angel told that woman to name him “Gabriel” when he was born. Would that change the fact that his name had already been “Gabriel” for many years before he was born as a human?
Many people claim that he wasn't “Jesus” until he was named that on earth. But I don't know why they claim such a thing.
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Kerwin.1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.wakeup.
WSO ACCORDING TO YOU GOD DOES NOT HAVE A SON
T.Not according to me,
but according to you.wakeup.
Whoa there, horsey.You're not getting off that easy on this one.
Neither me nor Pierre have EVER said God didn't have a Son.
BUT……… the words YOU posted in the quote box above don't seem to leave any room for a Son of God who is a different being than God Himself. Those words leave no room for a MEDIATOR between us and God.
So Pierre's question is spot on, and extremely valid.
Wakeup, where does the Son OF God fit into your words above?
Is the Son also God Almighty Himself? Is the Son also the Father?
Please explain where exactly the Son who died fits in to your understanding.
MikeB.This is amazing that you and Terra can not see
after all that.
Maybe some one else here can help me out explaining.
I didn't think I did a bad job explaining.
I'll try again.GOD SPOKE ***HIS OWN WORD *** INTO EXISTENCE.
(can not picture this, nor believe this; impossible;ludicrous;
fables;crazy;unimaginable;stupid;try another joke;i'm not silly; gullible;this is fairy story;get out of it).He was later made flesh; His name was called
Jesus the mediator between God and man.wakeup.
My question (actually Pierre's question) concerns Jesus being the SON of God. Was Jesus God's SON when he was the Word – before being made flesh?
Was Jesus God's SON while this Word was on earth?
Is Jesus God's SON now, after the Word has gone back to heaven and became “God” again?
Read the claims YOU wrote, Wakeup. And tell us where “SON of God” fits into your interpretation.
These are YOUR claims:
1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2013,12:14) My question (actually Pierre's question) concerns Jesus being the SON of God. Was Jesus God's SON when he was the Word – before being made flesh? Was Jesus God's SON while this Word was on earth?
Is Jesus God's SON now, after the Word has gone back to heaven and became “God” again?
Read the claims YOU wrote, Wakeup. And tell us where “SON of God” fits into your interpretation.
These are YOUR claims:
1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.
Mike B.Quote
Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.FIRST OF ALL.
THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN.JESUS WAS FLESH AND HE STANDS BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. GOD SPEAKS,AND HE UTTERS IT IN WORDS TO MEN.
NO MAN HAS HEARD GOD'S VOICE BUT HIM.
WHEN HE WAS CHANGED INTO SPIRIT HE WENT BACK TO HEAVEN NEXT TO GOD; HE IS STILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORD. HE HAS NOT DISAPPEARED.HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN BE IN JESUS AND JESUS IN GOD,AND GOD ALL IN ALL?
THIS ALSO SOUNDS CRAZY.REMEMBER THE SCRIPTURE: ALL IS FRAMED BY THE WORD OF GOD.(CRAZY)?
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2013,03:42) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2013,12:14) My question (actually Pierre's question) concerns Jesus being the SON of God. Was Jesus God's SON when he was the Word – before being made flesh? Was Jesus God's SON while this Word was on earth?
Is Jesus God's SON now, after the Word has gone back to heaven and became “God” again?
Read the claims YOU wrote, Wakeup. And tell us where “SON of God” fits into your interpretation.
These are YOUR claims:
1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.
Mike B.Quote
Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.FIRST OF ALL.
THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN.JESUS WAS FLESH AND HE STANDS BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. GOD SPEAKS,AND HE UTTERS IT IN WORDS TO MEN.
NO MAN HAS HEARD GOD'S VOICE BUT HIM.
WHEN HE WAS CHANGED INTO SPIRIT HE WENT BACK TO HEAVEN NEXT TO GOD; HE IS STILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORD. HE HAS NOT DISAPPEARED.HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN BE IN JESUS AND JESUS IN GOD,AND GOD ALL IN ALL?
THIS ALSO SOUNDS CRAZY.REMEMBER THE SCRIPTURE: ALL IS FRAMED BY THE WORD OF GOD.(CRAZY)?
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
wakeup.
WIT IS MORE CONFUSING THAN IT WAS BEFORE ;
HOW COULD “WORDS” BECOME FLESH AND BE SACRIFICED FOR THE REDEMPTION OF THE SINS OF MEN
Wakeup,
Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.
Hebrews 2:17-18
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54) Wakeup, Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.
Hebrews 2:17-18
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Kerwin.My question to Mike was: before creation.
there was God;has he got a brain?My question to you:
Before creation started; there was God.
1.Has He got a brain?
2. Does not ones words startes from inside the the mind?Please answer.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2013,19:52) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2013,03:42) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2013,12:14) My question (actually Pierre's question) concerns Jesus being the SON of God. Was Jesus God's SON when he was the Word – before being made flesh? Was Jesus God's SON while this Word was on earth?
Is Jesus God's SON now, after the Word has gone back to heaven and became “God” again?
Read the claims YOU wrote, Wakeup. And tell us where “SON of God” fits into your interpretation.
These are YOUR claims:
1. The Word of God itself was made flesh.
God did not create a man and put his Word in him.
2.This is why we must eat HIS flesh.
Eat the Word.Not eat the flesh of a created man,just
carrying the Word.
3.The Word of God is ALMIGHTY,This makes Jesus
ALMIGHTY.
4. God and His Word is almighty.
5. God and his Word is one God.
One almighty God.
6. There is no person in between.Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.
Mike B.Quote
Now, tell us where the SON of God fits in as a “Mediator”, when you've said there is no person in between. Tell us where the SON of God fits into a picture where God and His Word together are the “One almighty God”.
What happened to the Son? Doesn't he exist anymore?
Please explain these things.FIRST OF ALL.
THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN.JESUS WAS FLESH AND HE STANDS BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. GOD SPEAKS,AND HE UTTERS IT IN WORDS TO MEN.
NO MAN HAS HEARD GOD'S VOICE BUT HIM.
WHEN HE WAS CHANGED INTO SPIRIT HE WENT BACK TO HEAVEN NEXT TO GOD; HE IS STILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORD. HE HAS NOT DISAPPEARED.HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN BE IN JESUS AND JESUS IN GOD,AND GOD ALL IN ALL?
THIS ALSO SOUNDS CRAZY.REMEMBER THE SCRIPTURE: ALL IS FRAMED BY THE WORD OF GOD.(CRAZY)?
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
wakeup.
WIT IS MORE CONFUSING THAN IT WAS BEFORE ;
HOW COULD “WORDS” BECOME FLESH AND BE SACRIFICED FOR THE REDEMPTION OF THE SINS OF MEN
Pierre is right that your “explanation” only offers even more confusion, Wakeup. And Kerwin is right that the scriptures clearly CONTRADICT what you claim.I'm trying to decide if it's worth my time to continue this discussion, since it's clear that you're never interested in DIRECTLY addressing the questions we ask.
I'll think on it, and get back to you.
In the meantime, if you feel the urge to answer the questions I asked in the quote box above, please do so.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2013,13:46)
Oh, and as a side note, since the Lamb is NOT the one who created “all things”, he has no choice but to BE one of the “all things” created BY God.
So then the Father created Jesus through Jesus? Once again…and APART FROM HIM (Jesus) “NOT ONE THING” was created that has been created..
Your theology is a lie against the scriptures. It is obvious that the Father and Jesus are not “one of the all things that were created”.
Take your religious blinders off my friend!
Jesus is the creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Is the Holy Spirit part of the “all things that were created”?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2013,04:58) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2013,13:46)
Oh, and as a side note, since the Lamb is NOT the one who created “all things”, he has no choice but to BE one of the “all things” created BY God.
So then the Father created Jesus through Jesus? Once again…and APART FROM HIM (Jesus) “NOT ONE THING” was created that has been created..
Your theology is a lie against the scriptures. It is obvious that the Father and Jesus are not “one of the all things that were created”.
Take your religious blinders off my friend!
Jesus is the creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Is the Holy Spirit part of the “all things that were created”?
WJ
WJ
TWO BEGINNING ONE PRIOR TO CHRIST AND THE OTHER STARTING WITH CHRIST ;UNDERSTAND THAT AFTER ALL THINGS CHRIST HIS THE ONLY SON OF ALMIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH ,KEEP THIS IN YOUR MIND
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,10:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2013,04:58) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2013,13:46)
Oh, and as a side note, since the Lamb is NOT the one who created “all things”, he has no choice but to BE one of the “all things” created BY God.
So then the Father created Jesus through Jesus? Once again…and APART FROM HIM (Jesus) “NOT ONE THING” was created that has been created..
Your theology is a lie against the scriptures. It is obvious that the Father and Jesus are not “one of the all things that were created”.
Take your religious blinders off my friend!
Jesus is the creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Is the Holy Spirit part of the “all things that were created”?
WJ
WJ TWO BEGINNING ONE PRIOR TO CHRIST AND THE OTHER STARTING WITH CHRIST ;UNDERSTAND THAT AFTER ALL THINGS CHRIST HIS THE ONLY SON OF ALMIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH ,KEEP THIS IN YOUR MIND
T.1.There was no messiah before creation.The messiah came long after creation.In fact, He came from God in the year one,in the days of mary.
2.Before creation started,there was just God and his Mind.(the Word was God, in God of God).
3. God brought forth His Word and gave Him his own image.
4. Only now, is the beginning of all creations.
God's Word did all the work.He is the being on the job.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,10:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,10:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2013,04:58) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2013,13:46)
Oh, and as a side note, since the Lamb is NOT the one who created “all things”, he has no choice but to BE one of the “all things” created BY God.
So then the Father created Jesus through Jesus? Once again…and APART FROM HIM (Jesus) “NOT ONE THING” was created that has been created..
Your theology is a lie against the scriptures. It is obvious that the Father and Jesus are not “one of the all things that were created”.
Take your religious blinders off my friend!
Jesus is the creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Is the Holy Spirit part of the “all things that were created”?
WJ
WJ TWO BEGINNING ONE PRIOR TO CHRIST AND THE OTHER STARTING WITH CHRIST ;UNDERSTAND THAT AFTER ALL THINGS CHRIST HIS THE ONLY SON OF ALMIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH ,KEEP THIS IN YOUR MIND
T.1.There was no messiah before creation.The messiah came long after creation.In fact, He came from God in the year one,in the days of mary.
2.Before creation started,there was just God and his Mind.(the Word was God, in God of God).
3. God brought forth His Word and gave Him his own image.
4. Only now, is the beginning of all creations.
God's Word did all the work.He is the being on the job.wakeup.
WTHE WORD” IS JESUS THE CHRIST AND HE IS ALSO THE ONLY SON OF GOD THE ONLY CREATOR ,AND HE IS ALSO THE LAMB OF GOD,;;BUT YOU DO NOT WANT THE TRUTH YOU FEEL BETTER WITH YOUR OWN VERSION OF EVENTS AND EXPLANATION,IT GIVE YOU MORE LEAN WAY TO INVENT YOUR STORIES ,
THAT IS WHY WHEN WE ASK FOR SCRIPTURES YOU EITHER CHANGE THE SUBJECT ,OR TOPIC ,OR STAY SILENT ,WITHOUT SCRIPTURES TO BACKUP YOUR STORY;
OR DECLARE IT A MYSTERY, OR TELL PEOPLE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING ,
AND ALL THIS DOES NOT MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH ,;NO ONE CAN HELP YOU
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54) Wakeup, Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.
Hebrews 2:17-18
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Kerwin.My question to Mike was: before creation.
there was God;has he got a brain?My question to you:
Before creation started; there was God.
1.Has He got a brain?
2. Does not ones words startes from inside the the mind?Please answer.
wakeup.
Wakeup,I have no problem believing that God has always had a brain and that his word begins in his brain. I do have a problem believing that the words that come out of his mouth are a being.
Jesus the man stand between his brethren and God because it is humans he helps.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,18:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54) Wakeup, Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.
Hebrews 2:17-18
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Kerwin.My question to Mike was: before creation.
there was God;has he got a brain?My question to you:
Before creation started; there was God.
1.Has He got a brain?
2. Does not ones words startes from inside the the mind?Please answer.
wakeup.
Wakeup,I have no problem believing that God has always had a brain and that his word begins in his brain. I do have a problem believing that the words that come out of his mouth are a being.
Jesus the man stand between his brethren and God because it is humans he helps.
Kerwin.Lets stay with before creation;before God spoke.
1. There was God and God alone with no Word spoken.
2. But his Mind is inside Him.(the Word was God).
There was no Word;yet.
3. His Word Came forth when He spoke his Mind.
4.This is when the Word was with God.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:36) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,18:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54) Wakeup, Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.
Hebrews 2:17-18
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Kerwin.My question to Mike was: before creation.
there was God;has he got a brain?My question to you:
Before creation started; there was God.
1.Has He got a brain?
2. Does not ones words startes from inside the the mind?Please answer.
wakeup.
Wakeup,I have no problem believing that God has always had a brain and that his word begins in his brain. I do have a problem believing that the words that come out of his mouth are a being.
Jesus the man stand between his brethren and God because it is humans he helps.
Kerwin.Lets stay with before creation;before God spoke.
1. There was God and God alone with no Word spoken.
2. But his Mind is inside Him.(the Word was God).
There was no Word;yet.
3. His Word Came forth when He spoke his Mind.
4.This is when the Word was with God.wakeup.
Wakeup,I have no problem believing the word is God in the sense that God embodies his word. When he speaks his word it is with him.
My problem is if you actually believe the word was literally God and not just a non-being idea in God's mind before God uttered it. I also object to your teaching that God transformed into a lesser being that is God's literal utterance.
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