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Another thing, this whole topic and video is showing me where you get some of your ideas. They are worldly.
To see the truth is not about taking worldly news and drawing conclusions from it. Look at scripture and see what has happened in the world and what could happen. For that which is to happen, often it happens to prove that the prophet was a real prophet and that his teachings and warnings can be trusted. Sometimes prophecies are given so we can prepare. Whatever, God reveals these in his time. When men go ahead of God, they join dots that were never meant to be joined.
Today there are signs in the sky and the sea if you willing to see them.
What every one here should do is to produce prophesies to contradict what I have written.
Always come up with proof, not rebuke. Not say that I am showing off. That is going against the messenger.
Should I be silent, and keep all things to myself? Should I agree to compromise?
Are all my interpretations not backed up with scriptures?
Am I seen as a Show off because I can produce scriptures and prophesies?
Does the truth Have a bad effect on many? If not the truth; than where are the scriptures to proof.
All I want is proof, not assumptions and rebuke.
Come with evidence ,and show me that all my posts are full of crap, and I am just hot air.You should see for yourself, how they react when confronted with scriptures.
They shy away, or just ignore it, or show no interest; stamp on it. Because they have no back up; so go after the person.
This is not Me against all; but my message against all messages and claims.
Based on scriptural knowledge; I observe that all are on the wrong path, for sure; and I have used scriptures to proof my point. Not because I act like Mr.know it all; I know what I know, and not showing off, for what?
Are all our early teachers Proud and arrogant men? Should they be more compromising? Do THEY JUST THINK they have nothing but the truth? And all the world is not in the truth? should WE SCOLD THEM ALSO. Or call them arrogant men?
To me; the truth is all posts/claims,in harmony with scriptures. if anyone disagree, that’s fine; but then come up with scriptures as back up, that is how a discussion should be done.
After all we are all here about the scriptures. Are we not? To increase knowledge for the edifying of the spirit.
I can not see a bit of honesty or a pure heart, nor hunger for truth, so far. The spirit I am facing is the spirit of the world.
I can see no difference. Is this what the doctrines have produced? As I said before; all are on the wrong path,
Go back, the fruits are not acceptable to God. It should be humble and giving,and showing hunger for truth, the spirit of seeking.
Harsh preaching does not mean proud. Was Jesus a proud man when HE rebuked all the scribes and Pharisees?
Because they are on the wrong path? Should one whisper smoothly to wake up a slumbering crowd?wakeup.
Wakeup, you have no proof of your interpretations that are yet to happen. They are merely your opinions.
Yes you should be silent instead of teaching things that are just your view.
By all means put your theories forward, that is what these forums are for.
But be clear that they are theories and ideas that you think fit the scriptures.
Especially do not belittle those who do not hold your view and do not be close minded to what others say.
Sometimes Jesus speaks through ordinary people, such as you might find here.
You might laugh at them, but the proud often laugh at the humble.
Harsh preaching doesn’t mean pride as you say, but teaching your view as truth and belittling others is pride and it puts people off discussing an important part of scripture.
I would like to see more discuss prophecy here. But too many claim to be the truth and differ.
Common sense tells you that all views but one must be wrong.
We all need to hear what we are all saying, and be open minded.
But those who teach their view of future prophecy as absolute truth are not open and are likely to miss the signs due to their own arrogance.
A waste of time to quibble about, the messenger.
We don’t discuss the apostles do we? But the written gospels.
Please read explanations below; and find fault, and explain why it is faulty.2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
THEIR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SECOND COMING: ONLY IN THE LAST DAYS ALL SHALL BE REVEALED THROUGH THE OPENING OF THE SEVEN SEALS OF REVELATION. IT HAS BEEN OPENED; BUT MANY CAN NOT UNDESTAND THE LINGO,BECAUSE NOT GIVEN FROM ABOVE TO UNDESTAND.2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
THEY WERE TROUBLED; NOT SURE ABOUT WHEN THE 2ND COMING.2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
OBVIOUS THAT THERE WERE MANY DISCUSSIONS AND PERDICTIONS ALSO BACK THEN.
THE FALLING AWAY; OF WHOM? IS IT NOT OF THE BELIEVERS? A HEATHEN CAN NOT FALL AWAY FROM THE TRUTH.2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
THE TEMPLE OF GOD. WHICH TEMPLE? WHERE? HE IS OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING OF THE FALSE PROPHET;THE SON OF PERDITION.
THEMPLE MUST BE IN JERUSALEM; A JEWISH TEMPLE; NOT ANY TEMPLE, BUT THE 3RD TEMPLE COMING.2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
GOD WILL REVEAL HIM, WHEN HE IS READY TO REVEAL HIM; AFTER THE FALLING AWAY FIRST.2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
GOD ONLY WILL LET WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
THE SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST STARTED BACK THEN ALREADY;THEY KILLED THE SON OF MAN. HE = THE SON OF PERDITION. HE WILL BE REVEALED IN THE LAST DAYS,AFTER THE FALLING AWAY FIRST. NOT SOONER NOR LATER.
THE FALSE PROPHET. PREACHING GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD.2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
THE FALSE PROPHET THAT WICKED ONE, WILL BE CAST INTO THE FIRE AT THE COMING.2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
SATAN WILL BE AT HIS SIDE, WITH LYING WONDERS TO DECEIVE,EVEN THE VERY ELECT IF POSSIBLE. NOT ALL ARE THE VERY ELECT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THEM? WILL THEY NOT BE DECEIVED?2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they MIGHT be saved.
NOT SAVED YET; BUT *MIGHT* BE SAVED. RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH; SPEAKING OF BELIEVERS NOT IN THE TRUTH.
TOO MANY DOCTRINES OF TRUTH. THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH.2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
STRONG DELUSIONS; WHAT SORT OF DELUSIONS? THEM; WHO ARE THEM? DEFENITELY NOT THE HEATHENS.2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED THAT BELIEVE NOT THE TRUTH; OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING OF CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE NOT THE ARMOUR OF TRUTH TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THE GREAT DELUSION COMING. THEY WILL BE DECEIVED,BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE ALREADY SAVED, AND SECURED.
THIS IS A DANGEROUS SNARE,TO BE AVOIDED.2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
GOD HAS CHOSEN US THROUGH SANCTIFICATION: *US*; NOT AUTOMATICALLY ALL CHRISTIANS,BECAUSE MANY WILL BE DECEIVED.
ONE IS NOT SAVED UNTILL HE/SHE HAS OVERCOME THE GREAT DELUSION. DON’T BE RELAXED,BELIEVING YOU ARE SAVED.
THAT IS THE SNARE SET UP BY THE DRAGON. YOU ARE ONLY SAVED WHEN YOU HAVE MANAGED TO AVOID THE DRAGON’S TRAP.2 Thessalonians 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
ALL CAME THROUGH THE GOSPELS; BUT NOT ALL BELIEVED THE GOSPELS IN TRUTH. BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS WITH TOO MANY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS; NOT ALL ARE IN THE TRUTH. THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH.2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
STAY WITH THE GOSPELS,DON’T STEP OUT OF THE WAY THAT IS SHOWN. COMPERE SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE,CAST AWAY CONTRADICTIONS
WITH AN HONEST HEART FOR TRUTH SAKE.2 Thessalonians 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
*US*; SPEAKING OF THE TRUE BELIEVERS, NOT THE ONES THAT WILL BE DECEIVED. MANY WILL BE DECEIVED,BECAUSE NOT IN THE TRUTH.2 Thessalonians 2:17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word, and work.
*AND WORK*; NOT SLUMBER AND BE AT EASE. GOD SAYS THAT THE CHURCHES ARE AT EASE.THEREFORE THEY WILL BE TROUBLED.
YEAH; I APPEAR AS YOUR ENEMY, BUT NOT AN ENEMY OF THE SCRIPTURES.
I RATHER FEAR THE WORD OF GOD THAN MEN.BTW; WHO ARE THE GREATEST ANTICHISTS ON EARTH?
wakeup.
Nahum 3:5 Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame.
Nahum 3:6 And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile, and will set thee as a gazingstock.
Nahum 3:16 Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven: the cankerworm spoileth, and flieth away.
Nahum 3:17 Thy crowned are as the locusts, and thy captains as the great grasshoppers, which camp in the hedges in the cold day, but when the sun ariseth they flee away, and their place is not known where they are.
A waste of time to quibble about, the messenger.
We don’t discuss the apostles do we? But the written gospels.But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine. Older men are to be temperate, dignified, sensible, sound in faith, in love, in perseverance.
You obviously made this topic because you wanted to prove your doctrine from it or at least get the credit of warning us before it happened. If not, then why quote it. You obviously were not critiquing it or saying it was wrong.
Just shows me that you get inspiration from worldly sources and if so, then how much your other doctrine. Look I get it. I myself use to believe in the chip or barcode as the mark of the beast. I use to be superstitious with the number 666. But I was young and impressionable. It still might be the case that the mark is a chip, but I will wait and see. If it becomes the way to trade, I will refuse it. If not, I will keep my eyes open for what the mark might be.
We grow in the faith. We become wiser, we refine our beliefs, we seek sound doctrine, we persevere, we look at the signs and seasons and make decisions accordingly.
I exhort you to buy gold refined in the fire. While knowledge is treasure, without wisdom, knowledge can be dangerous and destructive. Wisdom is more valuable than all the gold in the world. Seek wisdom and you will know how to handle knowledge. It is simply not smart nor mature if you spout of end-time theories that explain everything and expect that we will come running to you for the answers. Grow up. One day the mystery of God will be fully known. Today, you do not even know if you will be alive tomorrow. You have no control over the future, and teaching us here that you have most of the answers to prophecy means you are either a great man or a false teacher. This topic didn’t happen, so you decide which you are. Obviously YHWH was not speaking through you that day right? And I am convinced that much of what you teach here is carnal knowledge from an interest you have and you expect others to share your interests and views.
As Believers we should be better than that. We should be able to handle the Word of God with wisdom and a deep understanding. We should treat prophecy with the respect it deserves. When you hear Yeshua’s voice, he will tell you when to teach that which he has put in your heart. When you jump the gun like Abraham and try to do things in the flesh, you end up with an Ishmael of a problem.
The above about me is your opinion.
What you THINK of me.
No shred of scriptural evidence brought forth to proof me wrong.
Therefore I am still innocent, not proven guilty.
Judge by the scriptures, not opinion.Is there anything else you know of today, that can be put IN the right hand, or IN the forehead to buy or sell?
Just name one?
Is electronics not used on bank cards? Is it not technology? Yes/No?wakeup.
WELL SAID T8;
I WILL ADD TO IT THIS ;
Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”Rev 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.
Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.”NO ONE THAT TELL LIES OR PREACH DECEIT WILL ENTER ;THIS TELLS WHO IS SAVED ;AND WHO IS NOT ,THOSE WHO ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT ,
WAKEUP AS DONE MANY FALSE TEACHINGS ,AND FLIP FLOPS THAT IN THREE YEARS PAST HE AS CHANGE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ,THIS TELLS ALL,
HE ASK FOR A SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE THAT HE IS WRONG ;BUT HE DID NOT PRESENT ANYTHING THAT WAS RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE ,JUST HIS OPINIONS AND THOSE FROM HIS RELATIFS ,HE IS A FALSE TEACHER END OF STORY , HE CREATED SO MANY DUMB TOPICS ,THIS ALSO TELLS ON HIM .
You obviously made this topic because you wanted to prove your doctrine from it or at least get the credit of warning us before it happened. If not, then why quote it. You obviously were not critiquing it or saying it was wrong.
In Wakeup’s defence, he was only reporting what was reported in the new health care plan (Obama Care) and this law was passed and signed.
Healthcare bill – HR3200
Section 2521, page 1001
Paragraph one.If this law was passed, one would expect them to fulfill this law of their intent but we know it has to happen in God’s timing, and not man’s. I don’t know what excuse they used to delay this plan because I can’t find any information, however the fact is, the technology is already here to be utilised.
This new technology only reinforces Rev 13:16-18.
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Just shows me that you get inspiration from worldly sources and if so, then how much your other doctrine. Look I get it. I myself use to believe in the chip or barcode as the mark of the beast. I use to be superstitious with the number 666. But I was young and impressionable. It still might be the case that the mark is a chip, but I will wait and see. If it becomes the way to trade, I will refuse it. If not, I will keep my eyes open for what the mark might be.
His information is sourced from the book of Revelations, and I remember also reading this from the scriptures 32 years ago.
We did not know how the mark of the beast would be implemented exactly back then, but now have a 99.9% clue how this can be achieved, because the technology has been invented and revealed to us in our time. If technology exceeds this microchip, then so be it. The point Wakeup and myself have been preaching for years is to refuse the Mark of the Beast. That is the main point you are missing, that Wakeup is testifying of the scriptures, and not trying to be a prophet or something like that.Again, the technology is here. People have already been micro-chipped to try, but we know that before it actually happens on a global scale, the False prophet has to emerge first and he will be the one to enforce it.
So to put a date on things is not wise, however this microchip was made law and the dates set for the American people. Maybe they were putting the feelers out, but it is all in God’s timing, and we know the events that must happen first before this prophecy is fulfilled. The beast wants it to happen now, but God is holding the strings because it has to get a little more ripe first.
I exhort you to buy gold refined in the fire. While knowledge is treasure, without wisdom, knowledge can be dangerous and destructive. Wisdom is more valuable than all the gold in the world. Seek wisdom and you will know how to handle knowledge.
Does Wakeup not constantly tell us that we need to seek knowledge? ..to feed on Christ’s flesh?…to seek the scriptures?
It is simply not smart nor mature if you spout of end-time theories that explain everything and expect that we will come running to you for the answers.
That definately wont happen. Wakeup has been rejected since day 1. I think this fuels him. I think this is the reason why he keeps reciting the “Land is desolate” because of constant rebuke without proof, and everything he has shared rejected or ignored.
He quoted many prophesies here with explanations that no one dare to touch, or wouldn’t of even read. He has also brought up endless topics and doctrines taught in churches to stir up with not one soul here to say “thank you, you may be on to something, or I never thought of it that way” Not one soul. It must get tiring for him, you guys trying to beat him down all the time, but he keeps going. He’s like a woodchipper, chipping away till he gets to the inside and getting you to reveal what’s really in your heart.Grow up.
He is fully matured in the Lord, and has shown more wisdom and knowledge in the scriptures than any person who has been on this site. He makes a stand, is not swayed because he’s on a rock. He speaks confidently because he knows what he’s talking about and wants to be rebuked by the scriptures, but personal attacks keep coming his way instead.
and teaching us here that you have most of the answers to prophecy means you are either a great man or a false teacher.
It’s never been about Wakeup, but about defending the truth. He is actually guiding you into the right direction and you don’t even know it.
This topic didn’t happen, so you decide which you are. Obviously YHWH was not speaking through you that day right? And I am convinced that much of what you teach here is carnal knowledge from an interest you have and you expect others to share your interests and views.
Can I suggest you take him to the hot seat? Challenge him on whatever it is you strongly believe against?
T8, this is your site. You are in charge here. Your comments could infect the rest, and give them the go-ahead to continue in this Anti-Wakeup campaign. Surely you have read some of the horrible horrible comments made to him and myself and let it go? This behaviour is not allowed on other sites. Personal attacks are not tolerated. Maybe the rules should be more strict concerning this. You have given us all free speech here, but there has to be order, and it must start with respect for one another regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with the message. If we are all christians, then we have to start acting like it, or the devil will run amok here and take over. Brotherly love should be rule no. 1. We are all children of the same God.
I personally like the way you debate because you talk plainly and not like a pompous scholar. You use good reasoning and I’ve always admired you for this. Please don’t take offence, but I really hurt for Wakeup and I know he is a real man of God, and not an imposter like everyone here is making out.WELL SAID T8;
I WILL ADD TO IT THIS ;
Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”Rev 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.
Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.”NO ONE THAT TELL LIES OR PREACH DECEIT WILL ENTER ;THIS TELLS WHO IS SAVED ;AND WHO IS NOT ,THOSE WHO ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT ,
WAKEUP AS DONE MANY FALSE TEACHINGS ,AND FLIP FLOPS THAT IN THREE YEARS PAST HE AS CHANGE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ,THIS TELLS ALL,
HE ASK FOR A SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE THAT HE IS WRONG ;BUT HE DID NOT PRESENT ANYTHING THAT WAS RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE ,JUST HIS OPINIONS AND THOSE FROM HIS RELATIFS ,HE IS A FALSE TEACHER END OF STORY , HE CREATED SO MANY DUMB TOPICS ,THIS ALSO TELLS ON HIM .
@T8
And this is what I mean. He’s agreeing with you and adding what he thinks of Wakeup. It’s like a cancer that spreads fast.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
What a horrible thing to say. To make out that God is talking about Wakeup. He has just attacked personally, with no rebuttal of scripture, or even a clue of what Wakeup has said is false? Today he’s your friend, but tomorrow your enemy. Is this brotherly love or a fair weather friend?
This is a great site, but people are not joining. I don’t think it’s because of Wakeup, but attitudes like this that are tolerated. I agree, it should be quality not quantity, but quality has to be defined.
You said:
Many have already taken the chip in the world, many in mexico.
When the false prophet is revealed; he will enforce the chip to every one.And…:
But today the mark is already in use by millions; by own choice. It is in use now.
How do you call the mark “the mark” if the beast is not yet arrived?
The “mark” is only the mark after the beast is arrived and after a buying/selling stipulation is attached to said “mark”. These two things must coincide. To say that many have already received the mark is not accurate.
If you say that those people that received the chip (the chip being the mark, as you believe), accepted the mark of the beast, are they then already condemned? Would not they be blameless of the crime of accepting the mark of the beast if there was no beast active upon the receipt of the chips? Would their penalty be retroactive? That would be like saying that bank/debit cards are the mark and that all who have them received the mark of the beast already. That would mean that our previous acceptance and current possession of those cards would have a penalty retroactively attached to them. That’s not quite fair, is it?
One should refrain from calling something “the mark of the beast” (especially since that term has such condemnation associated with it), if the beast is not arrived and in charge yet.
Who knows…the mark might very well be a chip, but then again it might very well NOT be…
It might be something invented or it might be something commonplace.Another theory that came to me as I was writing this post, is that the mark might not be something new or foreign to us at all. It might be something currently in our possession, but implemented as “the mark” by the USE OF it AFTER we are informed of the new stipulations put upon it. Perhaps “the mark” will not be the same for all?
Here in the U.S. we have social security numbers (Not sure about the rest of the world), and perhaps new stipulations will be attached to the use of our soc. sec. #’s concerning buying and selling. Maybe another country will use another commonplace item, with similar stipulations attached to that, etc, etc…
In that way, one could easily imagine how many believers will be deceived; because many believers have it in their minds already that the mark of the beast will be the same all over the world and for every individual. They might fail to recognize it for what it is BECAUSE of it’s variance from country to country.
I have to admit that this theory has NEVER previously entered my mind or something that I’ve ever considered when contemplating the mark of the beast. It happens only now, as I was creating this post. It feels like an epiphany…a revelation, because of the suddenness in which it came to me.
In conclusion, the point here is to remain open-minded to ANY and ALL possibilities of what the mark of the beast could eventually be.
As scripture tells us…
“…be wise as serpents…”~~~~~~~~~
GrasshopperGrasshopper.
You say the mark has not arrived?
To implement such a technology on masses of people, can not be done without testing it on people,
for many years. The way is simply prepared for the false prophet; so it will be ready for use when he comes.
Can you understand that? His name we don’t know yet; because he is not here yet.Regarding the mark itself:
Bank cards are in use today for many years. That is an electronic device technology.
The chip would be an improved version of the bank card; common sense?
Rfid (radio frequency identification devise) Both are an identification devises. Y/NO?Scripture is clear as crystal; no need to waver. It is a mark that can be put IN the hand or IN the forehead.
Do you have some other idea what can be put IN the hand or or IN the fore head, as a mark?
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads:Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Buy and sell=trade.
wakeup.
J42
I agree, it should be quality not quantity, but quality has to be defined.
agreed but the definition of quality is simply GODLY TRUTH not our personal opinions ,
for when we give explanation to some of the scriptures we make it so that what we say is the truth according to the scriptures ,but if it is only opinions that are not supported by the scriptures then we are called from scriptures ;
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
practice falsehood ; to prevent to be called this would be ;not to tell lies and blaspheme God’s name ,
to bad many have not come to that understanding ,
One of the 10 commandments, broken without any hesitation at all.
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Falsely accusing without providing any scriptural evidence.
Proven guilty without charge.wakeup.
waup
you should look at all the crap you have said on this site we have the prove the past 3 years or so ,get out of your little bubble ,for all I said is not false witness ;it is base on the truth ;your post are talking against you ,
per ups it is time to submit yourself to God ;and only preach God truth ;
wp
told you before what is in your head is not for me to change for i tried to show you but you rejected the scriptures ,so it is all in your head and you will reject all what come against you way of thought even Christ himself you will reject ,you have fallen in blind fanatisme ;to bad ;
Wakeup,
The Ottoman Empire is not the first caliphate. It was not even the largest in area.
From that and other things it is clear you do not test the spirits of what you hear.
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