A very serious problem i have noticed

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  • #363223
    Wakeup
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    New is not always best.

    The new bibles have been translated by jewish
    scribes who are antischrists.
    This is the very reason why there are so many
    controversies amongst the brethren,all over the world.

    The fox has been given charge over the chickens.
    This is not a good idea.Not only the chickens,but also the
    church leaders. The loud croakers.

    We true christians must know this,and dont fall in their
    trap. They hate Jesus,because they are all for their own messiah.
    Which We should know that he is not the true messiah.
    Therefore the false messiah;the false prophet coming.
    They will build his temple and let him sit as god,and worship him. (We are not them).(they are not us).

    The things I read here is mind boggling.
    Dont let those scholars deceive you;thinking that we are
    just putty in their hands,to be shaped as pleased.
    Please wake up all you brethren,dont let it happen.
    This is why all disagree with what I have said,
    but can not refute it.

    The scriptures should not contradict itself,this is how God has
    written it; for us to seek and compare scripture with scripture.
    When the truth is found; in the true bible;it should project a
    wonderful picture of God's whole plan on earth,and after.

    With those new translations this can never be achieved.
    There always be contradictions.
    Please,this is so serious,time is short.

    The deceivers are everywhere to corrupt the true followers,
    with their doctrines of devils posing as the *doctrine of light*.
    We need to know them by what they teach,and write.

    You need to check me out also, if I am teaching the truth according to scripture or not.
    Agree if I am in harmony,and disagree if I am not,and show the scriptures.

    Remember: **Lucifer was created full of wisdom**,and he has not left one stone unturned to deceive; in all things regarding the truth.He has it all covered,during his many,many years of deceiving and planning.
    But with the truth in us, he is helpless.
    And he can not bare to see that happening.

    Set all pride asside,and seek with a humble heart,and let the Holy Spirit lead. Dont adore your bible translations,but love the truth. There should be no contradictions.
    JESUS *IS THE WORD OF GOD* AND THE TRUE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD,IN PRINT. WE NEED TO EAT THE SPIRIT IN THOSE WORDS. JESUS IS NOW SPIRIT WITH HIS FATHER,WHO IS A SPIRIT,AND HIS FLESH IS SPIRIT.

    THE **WORDS** THAT I SPEAK TO YOU THEY ARE SPIRIT,
    IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT *QUICKENS*.(WILL QUICKEN US AT THE RESURRECTION ALSO).JESUS WAS QUICKENED FIRST.
    THE IDEA IS NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION. GET YOUR ROBES WHITE NOW,NOT AFTER THE TRIBULATION.

    After all this said: it's still your own choice.

    wakeup.

    #363234
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……..Where do you get all these false ideas from, First of all NO TRUE JEW would worship and say that a “MESSIAH” is a GOD, Jews are monotheist, they believe in ONLY “ONE” GOD. Secondly it is Christianity that has turned the image of into a GOD, Not Jews. You need to read 2 Ths 2 and understand the one who is seated in the temple of God now is Jesus and He is the one you people Present in the world as a God Not the Jews. There are many Jew who accept Jesus as the Messiah also, haven you ever heard “Jew's for Jesus”?. And I have shown you from Scripture that you so-called “Lucifer” is a “MAN”, Not Satan. You present yourself as a truth bearer but deny the scriptures that shows you differently how does that work. You are a victim of “MYSTERY RELIGION” and will not admit the truth when presented to you. IMO

    peace and love……………………….gene

    #363271
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 06 2013,01:55)
    Wakeup……..Where do you get all these false ideas from, First of all NO TRUE JEW would worship and say that a “MESSIAH” is a GOD, Jews are monotheist, they believe in ONLY “ONE” GOD. Secondly it is Christianity that has turned the image of into a GOD,  Not Jews. You need to read 2 Ths 2 and understand the one who is seated in the temple of God now is Jesus and He is the one you people Present in the world as a God Not the Jews. There are many Jew who accept Jesus as the Messiah also, haven you ever heard “Jew's for Jesus”?. And I have shown you from Scripture that you so-called “Lucifer” is a “MAN”, Not Satan.  You present yourself as a truth bearer but deny the scriptures that shows you differently how does that work. You are a victim of “MYSTERY RELIGION”  and will not admit the truth when presented to you. IMO

    peace and love……………………….gene


    GeneB.

    2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
    ***so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God***,
    shewing himself that he is God.

    THIS IS THE SON OF PERDITION COMING TO ISRAEL.

    THERE ARE SOME JEWS CHRISTIANS,I AGREE,BUT THE MAJORITY OF JEWS ARE ANTICHRISTS.
    CHRISTIAN SLOGANS DONT MEAN A THING.

    ***LUCIFER***IS NOT A MAN:(PROOF).

    Ezekiel 28:13 ***Thou hast been in Eden the garden of
    God***; (WAS THAT MAN IN EDEN?)
    every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that
    ***thou wast created***.
    (CREATED; NOT BORN).

    Ezekiel 28:14 ***Thou art the anointed cherub that
    covereth***;
    ( WAS THAT MAN A CHERUB)?

    and I have set thee so: ***thou wast upon the holy
    mountain of God***;
    (WAS THAT MAN IN HEAVEN THE HOLY MOUNTAIN OF
    GOD)?
    thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    AS YOU CAN SEE,HOW YOU HAVE PICKED UP YOUR DOCTRINE OF SOME PLACE, OTHER THAN THE HOLY BIBLE.
    THE MYSTERY RELIGION IS ALL YOURS.

    wakeup.

    #363290
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……….Ezekiel does not even mention the name Lucifer, that is your addition to the text, Lucifer is mentioned in Isiah as i quoted you and it specifically calls the person being address, “a Man:,why?, because it is speaking to the King of Babylon not some devil of any kind. Do you people Just throw out of your bibles what it says and force the text to say what you want it to. I think you may have thought it was in Ezekiel because I inadvertently mentioned Ezekiel earlier, i got the wrong book, where the word “Lucifer” is mentioned, that was my fault, sorry.

    peace and love…………………………gene

    #363293
    tigger2
    Participant

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    The new bibles have been translated by jewish
    scribes who are antischrists.

    What in the world are you talking about?

    Do you have any trustworthy evidence that 'Jews' translated the ASV, RSV, NASB, NAB, NEB, Moffatt's translation, Jay Green's MKJV, Smith and Goodspeed's AT?

    #363296
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 07 2013,08:07)

    Quote
    The new bibles have been translated by jewish
    scribes who are antischrists.

    What in the world are you talking about?  

    Do you have any trustworthy evidence that 'Jews' translated the ASV, RSV, NASB, NAB, NEB, Moffatt's translation, Jay Green's MKJV, Smith and Goodspeed's AT?


    Hi Tigger2.

    It is well known that the jews hierarchy are in charge
    of the world money system,media,literature,history,
    entertaiment,religion,and you name it.

    wakeup.

    #363297
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 07 2013,05:03)
    Wakeup……….Ezekiel does not even mention the name Lucifer, that is your addition to the text, Lucifer is mentioned in Isiah as i quoted you and it specifically calls the person being address,  “a Man:,why?,  because it is speaking to the King of Babylon not some devil of any kind. Do you people Just throw out of your bibles what it says and force the text to say what you want it to.  I think you may have thought it was in Ezekiel because I inadvertently mentioned Ezekiel earlier, i got the wrong book, where the word “Lucifer” is mentioned, that was my fault, sorry.

    peace and love…………………………gene


    GeneB.

    FIRST: *MAN KINGS* ARE RULED BY THE POWER
    OF LUCIFER/SATAN.HE IS NOT GOD'S FRIEND. AS GOD CALLED KING NEB HIS FRIEND ONCE.

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, **O Lucifer,
    son of the morning**!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    LUCIFER FALLEN FROM *HEAVEN*.HE WILL BE IN PRISON
    AND THAT WILL WEAKEN THE NATIONS.

    Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    LUCIFER WANTED TO BE GOD.(HIS DREAMS).

    Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    HE WANTED TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.

    Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made ***the earth to tremble***,
    ***that did shake kingdoms***;

    ONE MAN DOES NOT LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SHAKE KINGDOMS AND TREMBLE THE EARTH.
    (regarding God calling him man;is another subject).

    Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

    LUCIFER/SATAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN KING OF BABYLON.
    KING OF CONFUSION.
    THE RED DRAGON WITH *SEVEN HEADS*,STARTING WITH EGYPT.ASSYRIA,BABYLON,MEDO PERSIA,GREECE,OLD ROME,
    END TIME ROME. HIS LAST KINGDOM WILL BE THE 8TH
    WHICH IS OF THE SEVENTH WITH 10 HORNS AND A LITTLE HORN(FALSE PROPHET). (NWO).(beast of the bott.pit).

    DO YOU REMEMBER SATAN PROMISING JESUS ALL HIS KINGDOMS? IF; HE ONLY WORSHIP HIM?

    wakeup.

    #378563
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Lucifer is used only once in the bible and is not included in the names for the evil one in rev 12
    Shaky ground.

    Your attack on the jews seems rather unwarranted

    #378573
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2014,07:59)
    Hi WU,
    Lucifer is used only once in the bible and is not included in the names for the evil one in rev 12
    Shaky ground.

    Your attack on the jews seems rather unwarranted


    Nick.

    I know;Good is bad, and bad is good to you.

    wakeup.

    #378726
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Really?
    So what is bad there?

    Perhaps you can find more lucifers or find the name written in rev 12?

    #378756
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2014,14:20)
    Hi WU,
    Really?
    So what is bad there?

    Perhaps you can find more lucifers or find the name written in rev 12?


    Nick.

    When I say jew; I am not referring to all jews.
    But the high ranking. They that are in power.

    Lucifer was created very good,but became a rebeller
    against HIM that created him; because of his wisdom and beauty.

    His name is not mentioned any more,because he is not
    the light bearer anymore, nor son of the morning.
    But I say: the son of darkness.

    wakeup.

    #378769
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So you cannot prove anything as there are no scriptural witnesses.[2cor 13.1]

    #378776
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2014,14:20)
    Hi WU,
    Really?
    So what is bad there?

    Perhaps you can find more lucifers or find the name written in rev 12?


    Nick

    I can't believe you don't know who Lucifer is.
    When did you say you were annointed in the spirit?
    The spirit of God is supposed to open your eyes,
    but you have to do some reading first.

    #378790
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Just as God said:

    For the land is desolate.

    wakeup.

    #378791
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Revelation 3:16 So then because

    ***thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot***,
    ***I will spue thee out of my mouth***.

    Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;
    ***and knowest not that thou art wretched***, and
    miserable,
    ***and poor, and blind, and naked***:

    wakeup.

    #378819
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Are you allowed to teach from one verse?
    That is how the JWs came up with their nonsense.

    #378820
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Who are you judging now?

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