A QUESTION

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

“And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
 yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26)

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “And though after my skin worms destroy this body,  yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26)

“For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and
 this mortal must put on immortality.” (1Cor.15:53)

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “And though after my skin worms destroy this body,  yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26)

Wakeup………this is true what Job said. And for futher proof Go andread in Ezkiel about the Valley of Dead bones and see what God himself say about the resurection and how we are to be raised and it shawn a Prysical body of flesh and bone . Just as Jesus was raised with.

A soul is a Complete being and it includes a Flesh body with Spirit “IN” it.

Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2013,02:55)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “And though after my skin worms destroy this body,  yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26) Wakeup………this is true what Job said. And for futher proof Go andread in Ezkiel about the Valley of Dead bones and see what God himself say about the resurection and how we are to be raised and it shawn a Prysical body of flesh and bone . Just as Jesus was raised with. A soul is a Complete being and it includes a Flesh body with Spirit “IN” it. Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

Hi gene.

Eziekiel 37 is about israel.The elect of israel only.

As I said; in the 1000yr reign,the saints will rule over the jews in the flesh,and teach them.

And Job will be there in his flesh,and so will be Daniel,and Noah.

Ezekiel 14:14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 14:20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,03:23)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2013,02:55) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “And though after my skin worms destroy this body,  yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26) Wakeup………this is true what Job said. And for futher proof Go andread in Ezkiel about the Valley of Dead bones and see what God himself say about the resurection and how we are to be raised and it shawn a Prysical body of flesh and bone . Just as Jesus was raised with. A soul is a Complete being and it includes a Flesh body with Spirit “IN” it. Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene Hi gene. Eziekiel 37 is about israel.The elect of israel only. As I said; in the 1000yr reign,the saints will rule over the jews in the flesh,and teach them. And Job will be there in his flesh,and so will be Daniel,and Noah. Ezekiel 14:14   Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.  Ezekiel 14:20   Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

I thought you said 'no flesh bodies' in the resurrection?
Have you changed your mind?   <– please answer

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,03:55)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,03:23) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2013,02:55) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about. The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, No. Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8) Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “And though after my skin worms destroy this body,  yet in my flesh shall I see God:” (Job 19:26) Wakeup………this is true what Job said. And for futher proof Go andread in Ezkiel about the Valley of Dead bones and see what God himself say about the resurection and how we are to be raised and it shawn a Prysical body of flesh and bone . Just as Jesus was raised with. A soul is a Complete being and it includes a Flesh body with Spirit “IN” it. Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene Hi gene. Eziekiel 37 is about israel.The elect of israel only. As I said; in the 1000yr reign,the saints will rule over the jews in the flesh,and teach them. And Job will be there in his flesh,and so will be Daniel,and Noah. Ezekiel 14:14   Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.  Ezekiel 14:20   Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I thought you said 'no flesh bodies' in the resurrection? Have you changed your mind?   <– please answer God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

There is the resurrection of the saints,in a spirit body.
And there is the bringing back of the jews by election,in the flesh Ez.37.

Job will be brought back in the flesh,with the other jews,by election,and also the children of Rachel in ramah.Jer.31:15—17.

And the resurrected saints will rule over them, and teach them for a1000yrs.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

So some are resurrected into flesh;
and others are resurrected also, but they are
not resurrected into flesh. Is this what you are saying?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Have you been studying with the JW's?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:31)

Hi Wakeup, So some are resurrected into flesh; and others are resurrected also, but they are not resurrected into flesh. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Fortunately YES,but God called it brought back Ez.37.
flesh back to the bone.

You can call it resurrection ,but I call it bringing back to life. Reviving the dead,back to life.

This is what I have been trying to tell every body.

The 1000yr kingdom is for the jews paradise restored. Job will live there,HE HAS TO GO THROUGH CHIST.
For the saints its the kingdom they are ruling over.
The saints have also inherited all things

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:31)

Hi Wakeup, So some are resurrected into flesh; and others are resurrected also, but they are not resurrected into flesh. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

So, this is what you are saying then?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,12:43)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:31) Hi Wakeup, So some are resurrected into flesh; and others are resurrected also, but they are not resurrected into flesh. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org So, this is what you are saying then?

EDJ.

YES.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,12:22)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,04:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 06 2013,19:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,10:01) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,04:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190 I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed. 2bee Quote I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not , Terra. You believe the second coming is the second resurrection; Then tell me, when did the first resurrection happen? wakeup. how do you understand in my words ,what now you are saying this beats me     So then Terra,when are you going to explain your part. Defend your self; You cant run and hide forever. Say; NO, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE,then explain what you believe; and we will listen. wakeup.

all

Amillennialism (Latin: a- “no” + millennialism) is a view in Christian end-times theology named for its rejection of the theory that Jesus Christ will have a thousand-year-long, physical reign on the earth. This is in opposition to premillennial and some postmillennial interpretations of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation.

In contrast, the amillennial view holds that the thousand years mentioned in Revelation 20 is a symbolic number, not a literal description; that the millennium has already begun and is identical with the current church age, (or more rarely, that it ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 — see Preterism). Amillennialism holds that while Christ's reign during the millennium is spiritual in nature, at the end of the church age, Christ will return in final judgment and establish a permanent physical reign.
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this is not exactly what I believe or is my understanding of the scriptures

I do believe when Christ return and the 1000 years reign starts this would be the beginning of the permanent kingdom because all who have been resurrected in the first resurrection will be part or in that kingdom ,the second resurrection as no effect on them,;;Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them,

[Wakeup]

I agree with you once more Terra.

1. Christ 2nd coming/ 1st resurrection/saints resurrected.
satan in prison.(1000yrs).

2,Christ kingdom set up for 1000yrs. saints ruling over the jews that were brought back.Jews in the flesh.

3.Satan let loose to draw all the stubborn unbelievers.

4.God will bring him to surround the camp of the saints(kingdom).

5. Satan and all with him destroyed by fire from God.

6. The 2nd resurrection of all people and all generations,and of all believe systems. the sheep on right and the goats on left.

7.Goats cast in fire,sheep invited in.

8. Earth and heavens melted.

9 new heavens and new earth,created.

10. New Jerusalem coming to earth; and God with us.
We see God face to face.
That is the big picture.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

wup

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2,Christ kingdom set up for 1000yrs. saints ruling over the jews that were brought back.Jews in the flesh. and God with us. We see God face to face.

this I do not agree with ,as it is spelled out , men on earth will never see God the way he his ,this is impossible,

and as for the JEWS they will be the last to enter the kingdom not the first to the exception of the 144k and the ones that are in the great crowed,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,02:13)

wup Quote 2,Christ kingdom set up for 1000yrs. saints ruling over the jews that were brought back.Jews in the flesh. and God with us.     We see God face to face. this I do not agree with ,as it is spelled out ,  men on earth will never see God the way he his ,this is impossible, and as for the JEWS they will be the last to enter the kingdom not the first to the exception of the 144k and the  ones that are in the great crowed,

Terra.

Good question.

1.GOD WILL DWELL WITH US; AFTER THE 2ND RESURRECTION,WHEN ALL THE GOATS ARE CAST IN THE FIRE,AND THE SHEEP INVITED IN THE KINGDOM IN A SPIRIT BODY.AND AFTER THE EARTH IS MADE NEW.

2.THE JEWS WILL INDEED BE LAST, MADE SPIRIT.
FIRST THE SAINTS;AND AFTER, THE JEWS IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION.THEY; AND ALL THE GOOD GENTILES(SHEEP).IN A SPIRIT BODY.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,02:47)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,02:13) wup Quote 2,Christ kingdom set up for 1000yrs. saints ruling over the jews that were brought back.Jews in the flesh. and God with us.     We see God face to face. this I do not agree with ,as it is spelled out ,  men on earth will never see God the way he his ,this is impossible, and as for the JEWS they will be the last to enter the kingdom not the first to the exception of the 144k and the  ones that are in the great crowed, Terra. Good question. 1.GOD WILL DWELL WITH US;   AFTER THE 2ND RESURRECTION,WHEN ALL THE GOATS ARE CAST IN THE FIRE,AND THE SHEEP INVITED IN THE KINGDOM IN A SPIRIT BODY.AND AFTER THE EARTH IS MADE NEW. 2.THE JEWS WILL INDEED BE LAST, MADE SPIRIT. FIRST THE SAINTS;AND AFTER, THE JEWS IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION.THEY; AND ALL THE GOOD GENTILES(SHEEP).IN A SPIRIT BODY. wakeup.

wup

God will dwell with us ,on earth YES BUT NOT IN PERSON

through the Heavenly Jerusalem that comes down from heaven

and all men also will at that time have Gods spirit in them

[2besee]

Why is this being discussed in three different threads?

I refuse to be in three different threads discussing the same thing!!

I am here:

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin&#8230;.y382769

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,08:37)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,02:47) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,02:13) wup Quote 2,Christ kingdom set up for 1000yrs. saints ruling over the jews that were brought back.Jews in the flesh. and God with us.     We see God face to face. this I do not agree with ,as it is spelled out ,  men on earth will never see God the way he his ,this is impossible, and as for the JEWS they will be the last to enter the kingdom not the first to the exception of the 144k and the  ones that are in the great crowed, Terra. Good question. 1.GOD WILL DWELL WITH US;   AFTER THE 2ND RESURRECTION,WHEN ALL THE GOATS ARE CAST IN THE FIRE,AND THE SHEEP INVITED IN THE KINGDOM IN A SPIRIT BODY.AND AFTER THE EARTH IS MADE NEW. 2.THE JEWS WILL INDEED BE LAST, MADE SPIRIT. FIRST THE SAINTS;AND AFTER, THE JEWS IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION.THEY; AND ALL THE GOOD GENTILES(SHEEP).IN A SPIRIT BODY. wakeup. wup God will dwell with us ,on earth YES BUT NOT IN PERSON through the Heavenly Jerusalem that comes down from heaven and all men also will at that time have Gods spirit in them

Terra.

Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB SHALL BE IN IT; and his servants shall serve him:

Revelation 22:4 AND THEY SHALL SEE HIS FACE; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

SO GOD HAS A FACE;AND WE CAN SEE HIS FACE.
Because God is a spirit, does not mean that he is just a power force, with no personality and a shape.

We are created in his image. We have a shape,like him.
and God also feels sad sometimes;so he also has feelings,and great love.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,08:59)

Why is this being discussed in three different threads? I refuse to be in three different threads discussing the same thing!! I am here: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y382769

2Besee.

Because prophesies and biblical teachings can not be seperated.
You have to go from one to the other,every now and again.
To explain the prophesies,one has to touch the gospels sometimes,and vice versa.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,21:48)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,08:59) Why is this being discussed in three different threads? I refuse to be in three different threads discussing the same thing!! I am here: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y382769 2Besee. Because prophesies and biblical teachings can not be seperated. You have to go from one to the other,every now and again. To explain the prophesies,one has to touch the gospels sometimes,and vice versa. wakeup.

Yes but Wakeup how do you keep up?

I can't!

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