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- January 7, 2013 at 3:35 pm#326984GeneBalthropParticipant
To all……..The latter days started after the 4000 thousand year period, The messiah was cut off in the “midst” of the week, during the end of the that period of time and sense then the latter days started. The last two thousand years we were in the latter days. Just as after Wednesday we call it the latter days of the week, so is it in God's plan.
Peace and love to you all………………………..gene
January 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm#326985Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,00:42) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,11:53) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 07 2013,03:00) 2besee………..Lets take something into consideration here. Lets (suppose) that God had a time period in place for his work ,”for a short work will God make of the earth “, and let take what Peter said regarding God's timing as being a day equals a thousand years Now if we use that here is what we get, there were approx two thousand years before the flood, (2 days) there were approximately two thousand years to Christ Jesus (4 days) there has been approximately two thousand years from Jesus death to now, (6 days) So if there is a 7 days in God's plan then the Seventh day is about to begin right? peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
Hi Gene,Your idea also has backup in Hosea 6:2…
0 AD to 2,000 AD equals two days, thus 2,000-3,000 would be the third day.
That puts “The Latter Rain” in our time. Christians don't know their bible very well. …good Job Gene!Hosea 6:1-3 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain, as [the latter rain(151)] and [former rain(117)] unto the earth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.So do you agree now, that he will raise us up in the 3th day. And we will know him.
The 3rd day would be the 1000yr kingdom; then we will know the Lord,for knowlege in the earth will be as the sea cover the earth.
So the second coming would be to bring us into the 3rd day,the 1000yr kingdom. This would be his first dominion.
The second dominion would be the whole earth,after the earth is melted down,and a new earth created.But not before the second resurrection of the sheep and the goat.
And satan destroyed.The second coming would be the first resurrection,because the 144000 will be the first fruits.
There can not be a previous resurrection,because the first fruits are the FIRST RESURRECTED.
wakeup.
Hi DWakeup,No I don't agree with your private interpretation of Scripture Wakeup.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm#326986Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2013,01:35) To all……..The latter days started after the 4000 thousand year period, The messiah was cut off in the “midst” of the week, during the end of the that period of time and sense then the latter days started. The last two thousand years we were in the latter days. Just as after Wednesday we call it the latter days of the week, so is it in God's plan. Peace and love to you all………………………..gene
Hi Gene,When was the Former Rain(117),
if it didn't start at Pentecost(117)?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm#326994GeneBalthropParticipantEDJ………God's spirit was indeed poured out on the day of Pentecost . I agree with that part as far as the rest of the number thing, I do not follow brother.
Peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene
January 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm#326999WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,01:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,00:42) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,11:53) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 07 2013,03:00) 2besee………..Lets take something into consideration here. Lets (suppose) that God had a time period in place for his work ,”for a short work will God make of the earth “, and let take what Peter said regarding God's timing as being a day equals a thousand years Now if we use that here is what we get, there were approx two thousand years before the flood, (2 days) there were approximately two thousand years to Christ Jesus (4 days) there has been approximately two thousand years from Jesus death to now, (6 days) So if there is a 7 days in God's plan then the Seventh day is about to begin right? peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
Hi Gene,Your idea also has backup in Hosea 6:2…
0 AD to 2,000 AD equals two days, thus 2,000-3,000 would be the third day.
That puts “The Latter Rain” in our time. Christians don't know their bible very well. …good Job Gene!Hosea 6:1-3 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain, as [the latter rain(151)] and [former rain(117)] unto the earth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.So do you agree now, that he will raise us up in the 3th day. And we will know him.
The 3rd day would be the 1000yr kingdom; then we will know the Lord,for knowlege in the earth will be as the sea cover the earth.
So the second coming would be to bring us into the 3rd day,the 1000yr kingdom. This would be his first dominion.
The second dominion would be the whole earth,after the earth is melted down,and a new earth created.But not before the second resurrection of the sheep and the goat.
And satan destroyed.The second coming would be the first resurrection,because the 144000 will be the first fruits.
There can not be a previous resurrection,because the first fruits are the FIRST RESURRECTED.
wakeup.
Hi DWakeup,No I don't agree with your private interpretation of Scripture Wakeup.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.What is wrong with my interpretation.
Please put foreward your interpretation.1. Was there be a privious resurrection? When?
2. Is Christ second coming the first or second
resurrection?wakeup.
January 7, 2013 at 6:51 pm#327003terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 06 2013,19:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,10:01) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,04:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
2beeQuote I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not ,
Terra.You believe the second coming is the second resurrection;
Then tell me, when did the first resurrection happen?wakeup.
how do you understand in my words ,what now you are saying this beats meJanuary 7, 2013 at 10:52 pm#327008Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2013,02:23) EDJ………God's spirit was indeed poured out on the day of Pentecost . I agree with that part as far as the rest of the number thing, I do not follow brother. Peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene
Hi Gene,So you agree that the “Former Rain” began at “Pentecost”, and
that “The Latter Rain” has begin just recently (2,000+ AD) right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 7, 2013 at 10:57 pm#327009Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,02:54) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,01:47)
Hi DWakeup,No I don't agree with your private interpretation of Scripture Wakeup.
God bless
Ed J
EDj.What is wrong with my interpretation.
Please put foreward your interpretation.1. Was there be a privious resurrection? When?
2. Is Christ second coming the first or second
resurrection?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Jesus was the first to be resurrected into the new form.
2) NeitherGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 8, 2013 at 1:10 am#327013WakeupParticipantEDJ.
So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.This is confusion that has deeply embeded.
For the 144000 saints willl be the first fruits.
And this will only happen before the first trumpet is blown.For Edj. said NEITHER first nor second resurrection. He is a confused soul,because he is dwelling with strange doctrines;numbering God,and the host of heaven.
Here is what the scriptures says.
In the first resurrection there will be multitudes and multitudes coming out of great tribulations of all nations and tongues.
And they were given white robes.(rev7:9–14).
THIS HAS NOT HAPPEN YET.The second resurrection,is after satan is devoured by fire from God out of heaven.(rev.20:9).This resurrection consists of all people: past, present, and future.
wakeup.
January 8, 2013 at 4:04 am#327028Marlin1ParticipantHi 2besee,
You said, “I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.”In this I agree with you, no one will come to Christ during the millennium. satan will be bound, so the tester will not be present.
I also agree with you that our day for salvation is now.
I disagree with you that the 1000 years has been going on for two thousand years. During this 1000 years of peace, satan will be bound. Everyone knows that he sure hasn't been bound for any of the last 2000 years.
When Jesus raised from the dead, did not many of the old testament saint raise with Him. Is not this the 1st resurrection. MAT 27:52-53
The only gentile saints to live during the 1000 year reign will be the wise virgins, which will be very few. All the other gentile saints, (foolish virgins) will not be raised from the dead until after the 1000 years is done, for they will have to give their blood to be purged during the great tribulation.
God Bless
bro. MarlinJanuary 8, 2013 at 7:22 am#327040WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,04:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 06 2013,19:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,10:01) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,04:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
2beeQuote I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not ,
Terra.You believe the second coming is the second resurrection;
Then tell me, when did the first resurrection happen?wakeup.
how do you understand in my words ,what now you are saying this beats me
So then Terra,when are you going to explain your part.
Defend your self; You cant run and hide forever.Say; NO, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE,then explain what you believe; and we will listen.
wakeup.
January 8, 2013 at 8:41 am#327057Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 8, 2013 at 9:22 am#327060WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,18:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Let me rephrase my question.
1.Jesus resurrection; is that the first resurrection?
and will he be the ONLY ONE resurrected?(the one man resurrection).2. At the second coming,will also be a resurrection;
is this the first, or the second resurrection?wakeup.
January 8, 2013 at 10:18 am#327064Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,19:22) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,18:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.Let me rephrase my question.
1.Jesus resurrection; is that the first resurrection?
and will he be the ONLY ONE resurrected?(the one man resurrection).2. At the second coming,will also be a resurrection;
is this the first, or the second resurrection?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) If you didn't understand my response to your question,
why use the same undefined term (the first resurrection).
What do you mean by the term “the first resurrection”?
Jesus' resurrection was the first of many brothren.2) The resurrection will take place after you die.
Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 8, 2013 at 11:22 am#327071WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,20:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,19:22) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,18:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.Let me rephrase my question.
1.Jesus resurrection; is that the first resurrection?
and will he be the ONLY ONE resurrected?(the one man resurrection).2. At the second coming,will also be a resurrection;
is this the first, or the second resurrection?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) If you didn't understand my response to your question,
why use the same undefined term (the first resurrection).
What do you mean by the term “the first resurrection”?
Jesus' resurrection was the first of many brothren.2) The resurrection will take place after you die.
Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Is there another resurrection coming?
And if yes; then is that the first ot the second.wakeup.
January 8, 2013 at 4:29 pm#327077GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,18:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ…………..Indeed and that Last “day” is the Millainel regin of Jesus and the Saints on this earth. It is the Sabbath Day in God's 7000 year Plan. It is about to Start Soon and will commence with the return of the SON of MAN, Jesus Christ. Just as it say“there remains a keepint of the Sabbath unto the people of God” . The whole world will breakout in Peace it will truly be a REST taking place on this earth for all creation and will las for a thousand years which is one day to God the Father.
My hope is that we will all be there together enjoying it with our Brother the King, the Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………gene
January 9, 2013 at 9:28 am#327138WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,20:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,19:22) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,18:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:10) EDJ. So the first resurrection according to ED,is only the resurrection of Jesus.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Sorry but I didn't say that, nor did I imply it.
Jesus said he was going to raise us up on the last day.
(this is what you seem to be referring to as “the first resurrection”)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.Let me rephrase my question.
1.Jesus resurrection; is that the first resurrection?
and will he be the ONLY ONE resurrected?(the one man resurrection).2. At the second coming,will also be a resurrection;
is this the first, or the second resurrection?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) If you didn't understand my response to your question,
why use the same undefined term (the first resurrection).
What do you mean by the term “the first resurrection”?
Jesus' resurrection was the first of many brothren.2) The resurrection will take place after you die.
Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.This is what the resurrection is about.
Matthew 22:30 For in the *RESURRECTION* they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are AS THE ANGELS of God in heaven.
The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand?
And this is coming.wakeup.
January 9, 2013 at 10:24 am#327148Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about.
The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, No.Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8)
Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 9, 2013 at 11:21 am#327157WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,20:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2013,19:28) Edj. This is what the resurrection is about.
The resurrection is about changing this flesh body into a spirit body. You understand?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, No.Death is about separating our souls from our bodies. …………. (see 2 Cor. 5:8)
Resurrection is about putting our souls back into bodies. ……. (see Luke 24:39)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Wrong again.
Resurrection is when the spirit that is in us will quicken us.If that spirit is not in you ,you will not be quicken.Every person is a living soul.
God saved 8 souls during the flood.wakeup.
January 9, 2013 at 11:41 am#327163Ed JParticipant - AuthorPosts
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