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K
get me an example for i do not understand what you mean either in the application or what it means as you say it ,please clarify this for me
T,
The first books of the Scripture are called the Law. The rest is neither adding or subtracting to it would be a violation of God command not to add or subtract from the Law. In many of his writings Paul differentiated between those who lived by the Law and those who lived by the Spirit. It is wisest that we follow his example in what we say so that it is clear we are not following the error of those that held to the belief they had to live by the Law to be saved.
K
do you understand what Jesus says ?
Mt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Mt 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Mt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.Mt 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Mt 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.now see what Christ says ;
Mt 22:37 Jesus replied: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
Mt 22:38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
Mt 22:39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
Mt 22:40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”so the spirit of the law would be two commandments ; you see the spirit of God does not reside in a full book but in the essentials of the truth their in ,
this why so many have stumbled on the understanding of the scriptures and wasting time to argue on words when the truth does not lay their but in the spirit of it ,
T,
If you are speaking about the spirit of the Law and not the letter then say Spirit and it will be easier to understand as those that believe that you must live by the Law also say Scripture.
T,
What I am saying should not be that hard to understand. When you say “the Scripture” as you used it instead of “the Spirit”, “God”, or “Jesus Christ” you sound like you do not understand the difference between the Law of Moses and the New Covenant. Paul rebuked those that could not understand that difference repeatedly.
K
it seems that i really do not understand anything in scriptures ,sins i do not feel the need of opinions ,this conversation is done at my end ,
thanks for the conversation to this point ,
T,
There is a breakdown of communications but I assume you understand there is a difference between the Law of Mosses and the new covenant Jesus it the intercessor for.
Romans 7:6New English Translation (NET Bible)
6 But now we have been released from the law, because we have died to what controlled us, so that we may serve in the new life of the Spirit and not under the old written code.
The written code = Scripture
Kerwin…….The written code is the law (enforced) on them, but we serve (still the same comandments) but by the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, not through the “works” of “LAW” (forced compliance ) but we still fulfill the comandments written in the law, not by forced compliance but in a new and living way. The commandments of God has not changed its just the “way” we keep them has. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
Nick,
Actually Jesus disagreed with the Pharisees on how to observe the Sabbath not whether to observe it at all.
Hi KW,
So show us where Jesus preached the sabbath observance.
He taught the Law to the rich young man under the law but then taught him about the freedom of the kingdom
Should we try to please God by adopting for ourselves the Jewish law?
Flesh contributes nothing.
Nick,
Jesus stated Sabbath was made for man. He never told anyone to not hold the Sabbath but he did tell them that doing good on the Sabbath did not violate it. The only variation was when his disciples ate from the field because they were hungry on a Sabbath and then he declared he was Lord of the Sabbath.
If you find any other ones I forgot then please feel free to share it.
Hi KW,
Indeed he explained the Law to those under it.
His mission was to Israel.
But all outside the law can be justified in he who fulfilled the law.
Nick……what does this mean to you. Heb 4:9 , THERE REMAINS THEREFORE A REST SHOULD READ, (KEEPING OF THE SABBATH) UNTO THE PEOPLE OF GOD. The word rest is a mistranslation, it should be sabbath, and is in the original translation, check it out and let me know what you think NICK.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
the law as been made for the wickeds things to not do and punishment for it if you do, by observing the first commandment all the rest of the law falls to nothing ,for by doing so you are declared righteous ,
now if you live your life as a righteous (not without sin) 24/7 is not your live a full sabbath ,meaning a constant day to the Lord ? is this not what scriptures says that the sabbath is ?yes ;
EX 16:29 “See, the LORD has given you the sabbath; therefore He gives you bread for two days on the sixth day. Remain every man in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.”
EX 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.EX 31:14 ‘Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you.[so if we live a holy life then are we not living a constant sabbath ? yes
LEV 16:31 “It is to be a sabbath of solemn rest for you, that you may humble your souls; it is a permanent statute [so by keeping your soul permanently humble are we not living a constant sabbath ? yes
MT 12:5 “Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent?
are we not all called to become priest to serve our God ? yes we are so we should be holy as God is holyMK 3:4 And He *said to them, “Is it lawful to do good or to do harm on the Sabbath, to save a life or to kill?” But they kept silent. WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER ?
Nick……You have it right , the one thousand year reign of Jesus and the saints, is the seventh day in God’s time frame. The is exactly why it says there remains a (keeping of the sabbath) unto the people of God. So the question is has the Sabbath been Done away with? I believe no part of God commandment are done away with not now or ever will be, the only thing that has changed is how we keep them, is it by the way “law” works, (through forced compliance), or by the love of God shed abroad in our hearts, that fulfills “all” the comamdments. But in ether case God’s commandments are love and will not be done away with for all eternity. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
HI GENE AND..
i WOULD NOT CONCLUDE THINGS SO QUICKLY ,YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT IT IS THIS WAY NOT THE SCRIPTURES ,THE ONLY THING SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING IS THAT THE DAYS OF MEN AND THE DAYS OF GOD ARE NOT THE SAME LENGTH IN TIME ,BUT DOES GOD LIVE IN TIME ?
IS NOT GOD BEING OUT OF TIME AND SO IS TIMELESS , SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT TRUE BUT OPINIONS ,DOES PETER SAY THAT ONE DAY OF GOD “IS” 1000 YEARS OR DOES IT SAY “IS LIKE A 1000 YEARS ” BIG DIFFERENCE IS IT ? YES
2Pe 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Ps 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night.IT SEEMS THAT THE PSALM 90 IS WERE PETER GOT HIS VIEW ,
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