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After seeing that some members are again dodging questions on purpose, I am thinking again that such members should be locked out the Scripture & Biblical Doctrine forum as that forum needs to have quality teachers rather than controversial dodgers and promoters of man-made doctrines.
Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2010,06:35) Rather than censorship new categories should be developed.
Because we all see that certain Scriptures don't seem to fit
others overall understanding of the Bible. These Scriptures
should be explained by the person's understanding of God.
Everyone should grill until all our satisfaction is achieved.
For a person to revert back to fallacies, they'll look silly.
If a person chooses to ignore these Posts, it will make
their position appear to be fictitious or weak at best.
The category might be called: "The Hot Seat" for
they will be on the grill for all to openly peruse!
That is a good idea Ed.Is this a better idea than culling writable access to the Scripture and Biblical Doctrine forum? And why?
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2011,14:22) Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2010,06:35) Rather than censorship new categories should be developed.
Because we all see that certain Scriptures don't seem to fit
others overall understanding of the Bible. These Scriptures
should be explained by the person's understanding of God.
Everyone should grill until all our satisfaction is achieved.
For a person to revert back to fallacies, they'll look silly.
If a person chooses to ignore these Posts, it will make
their position appear to be fictitious or weak at best.
The category might be called: "The Hot Seat" for
they will be on the grill for all to openly peruse!
That is a good idea Ed.Is this a better idea than culling writable access to the Scripture and Biblical Doctrine forum? And why?
Hi T8,Some topics don't belong in the category "Scripture and Biblical Doctrine", but there
are many that do. Being 'bared' from a category means they also cannot comment on
other topics within the category as well. When someone avoids certain questions, it is
usually only the one who asks the pressing issues that is disturbed by such avoidance's.
A new category such as… "The Hot Seat" …will expose these avoidance's for all to see.
Then others can chime in: asking (or politely demanding) that these concerns be addressed.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYeah, I am starting to like that idea.
It could be a new forum or a merger with Member Profiles if that seems like a similar forum.If I changed the name of Member Profiles to The Hot Seat, then existing posts where members have posted what they believe could be considered as putting themselves in the Hot Seat (so to speak). What do others think?
1) A forum where dodgers have to face the bullet or be seen clearly as the dodgers that they are.
2) To remake Member Profiles into The Hot Seat as it seems that existing posts there could be considered as sitting in the Hot Seat. e.g., members post what they believe thereby opening themselves up to any questions about their belief.This idea means that we don't worry about a penalty or access to the Biblical Forum and instead expose dodging practices in a topics designed for such. It seems to me that people easily dodge questions because they can hide among the many posts of other topics. This forum will help bring an end to that.
Good idea, except won't the dodgers just not post?
I would gladly post my beliefs, and defend them, but at some point, with some people, I fear it would become casting pearls, especially from those who do not believe scripture. Question, once I've responded to a counter-point but someone wants to continue to belabor a point, but I don't, will I be labelled a dodger?
My opinion – Wm
True Wm.
I assume that will happen too.
But what will be accomplished is that they will be shown as dodging questions about that which they preach. This will demonstrate clearly that they know that they should provide an answer for all that they believe and teach, and thus their position is weakened substantially because they are unable to give an answer.
Then when you see their teaching popup again, you can provide a link to the Hot Seat topic that deals with it, and people can see that they have no substance to their teaching or are not willing to defend it.
If you decide not to answer something, then it is also a good idea to stop teaching it.
Teachers need to be accountable for what they teach.
T8
Well at this point in my life I can only offer my opinion as one seeking truth. I have found that even people I trust have errors (well at least one of us is wrong). Stu is right on one point; no two Christians agree on everything. I believe that only scripture and the Holy Spirit can teach with authority and for now all I will offer is my opinion, so I will refrain from posting in the hot seat as one ineligible, not as a dodger.
1 Corinthians 12:29
Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?James 3:1
[ Taming the Tongue ] Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictlyHebrews 5:12
In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!
Or maybe I'm just slow.
My opinion – Wm
Yes we all are imperfect.
But this idea is to bring accountability. If people do not front up, then it just makes it clearer to others that this person is not backing up what they are teaching. This has been a problem here for quite some time and allowing a forum to tackle it seems good to me.
Remember that others can throw in their 2 cents worth too, so it is not like it is the judgement of one person. Rather the process just makes things clearer as people are sometimes called to answer questions about what they teach and many dodge this and can get away with it too, as such is usually buried away in a topic somewhere.
hi
we all are on a way to God and belong to God ,our understanding is moving just as we moving into it ever increasing,some do not at present looking for God s will but this should not be a problem to those who chose to do so,like Jesus said to Peter what is it to you ,?you follow me ""
giving to much concern to others and there actions may lead you away of what you have to do for God,and so miss YOUR train.
Pierre
Hi All,
I can't count the number of times I've been in a discussion about one thing to do with the trinity doctrine, and out of the blue pops "I and the Father are one".
And many here have explained that some of us will also be "one" with Jesus and his God. So the scripture is NOT saying Jesus IS God, or else it would likewise be saying that some of us will become God. And we have explained this over and over.
But it doesn't matter how many times you go through this point, it gets brought up by "Jesus is God" supporters again and again.
Maybe a better idea than a hot seat section is a thread with stock answers to these points they bring up over and over, even though they've been solidly refuted as being any kind of trinity "proof text".
Then, the next time they bring up a point that has been solidly refuted, we could either cut and paste the stock answer, or simply print, "See page 1, post #4 in the REDUNDANCY THREAD!"
I'm just spouting.
mike
Mike
it does not matter what you do there always will be people with there own agenda ,they do not care for truth ,or looking for it neither,
this is were we all be judged how we see the word of God ,if we take the word of God for what it is really then the spirit can help us to make it known to us in our hearths, after all why would God need men explanation of is own scriptures ??
what is men so that God need to depend on them ??
is God fallowing men ??
if you do not understand the word of God ,do not look in men for answers ,ask God but maybe you are not really looking for truth with your hearth ,and so your results are equal to your state of mind and hearth.can we foul God ??
"look at the prodigal son,how long that it took him to realize is position away of his father ??
Pierre
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