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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38) Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.
Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup. (“You must be born again from above of spirit and water.”)I suppose you believe “spirit” is immaterial, and therefore not a “substance”.
I don't believe that. Wind is comprised of many “substances”, although many people believe it is “immaterial”.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2014,11:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38) Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.
Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup. (“You must be born again from above of spirit and water.”)I suppose you believe “spirit” is immaterial, and therefore not a “substance”.
I don't believe that. Wind is comprised of many “substances”, although many people believe it is “immaterial”.
Mike B.My question was.
Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?
Out of what substance?
Is it not of the Word of God in him?With no Word of God In him;there would be nothing to
form,there will be just emptiness.
Therefore not resurrected.The Word of God was given a form based on that same substance.The Word.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,21:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2014,11:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38) Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.
Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup.
Mike B.My question was.
Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?
Out of what substance?
Of spirit and water, Wakeup. Their new spiritual bodies will consist of spirit and water, so I would imagine that spirit and water are the substances from which those bodies will be made.If you are saying their bodies will literally be made out of God's literal spoken word(s), then I disagree. Nor do I know of any scripture that would support such a thing.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,15:39) Mike B. My question was.
Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?
Out of what substance?
Is it not of the Word of God in him?With no Word of God In him;there would be nothing to
form,there will be just emptiness.
Therefore not resurrected.The Word of God was given a form based on that same substance.The Word.
wakeup.
God is spirit. Thus we are born if his nature.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 17 2014,11:19) Hey Wakeup, “God” cannot possibly be WITH “God”!
God with God is two Gods.
Adam with Adam makes two Adams.
A tree with a tree is two trees.You can pretty much put anything into this equation and come up with two.
But for argument sake, lets take this example.
Water with water. Yes that is one body of water.
But you had to start with two bodies of water.So even if God with God makes one God (hypothetically) you still need two Gods to start with.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2014,08:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,21:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2014,11:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38) Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.
Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup.
Mike B.My question was.
Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?
Out of what substance?
Of spirit and water, Wakeup. Their new spiritual bodies will consist of spirit and water, so I would imagine that spirit and water are the substances from which those bodies will be made.If you are saying their bodies will literally be made out of God's literal spoken word(s), then I disagree. Nor do I know of any scripture that would support such a thing.
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man **may eat thereof**, ***and not die***.
John 6:51 I am the** living bread** which came down from heaven: ***if any man eat of this bread, he shall live
for ever***:
and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give
for the life of the world.John 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, **How can this man give us his flesh to eat**?
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, ***Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man***, ***and drink his blood, ye have no *life* in you***.
John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, **hath eternal life**; ***and I will raise him up at the last
day***.John 6:55 ***For my flesh is meat indeed***, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: **he that eateth me, even he shall live by me**.
John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: ***he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever***.
John 6:59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
John 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, **This is an hard saying**; who can hear it?
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
John 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples **murmured** at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
***the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and
they are life***.John 6:64 ***But there are some of you that believe
not***.
For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.(ARE YOU ONE OF THEM)?
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
John 6:66 ***From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him***.
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
WHO ELSE IS GOING TO WALK AWAY?
wakeup.
I'm not sure how Wakeup understands that passage in John 6, but I know it doesn't say one thing about the bodies of the resurrected consisting of “the words of God”.
Wakeup, what do you think verse 57 means?
57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
If we are able to live BECAUSE OF Jesus, there's a pretty good chance that we are not actually Jesus himself, nor have we ever been Jesus himself.
So what then does it mean that Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father?
Further, the head of Christ is God, the head of the man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man. This proves that God, Christ, Man, Woman are different. And it is also interesting to note that the woman came from the man. The man came from Christ as all creation came from him, and that leaves, Christ came from God. Not all believe that however.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2014,11:24) I'm not sure how Wakeup understands that passage in John 6, but I know it doesn't say one thing about the bodies of the resurrected consisting of “the words of God”. Wakeup, what do you think verse 57 means?
57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
If we are able to live BECAUSE OF Jesus, there's a pretty good chance that we are not actually Jesus himself, nor have we ever been Jesus himself.
So what then does it mean that Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father?
Mike B.Those scriptures say that we must be filled with the flesh of Christ or we will have no life.
The *quantity* of the Word we ate; will be the substance
on which the new form will be build on.The being next to God is given a form based on the Word of God.His basic substance(spirit) is God's own Word.
THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU THE **ARE SPIRIT**.
**IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENS***.
QUICKENS=MADE INTO A QUICKENING SPIRIT.
IN THE RESURRECTION,WE ARE QUICKENED.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,21:14) The being next to God is given a form based on the Word of God. His basic substance(spirit) is God's own Word.
Wakeup,The being NEXT TO God is not actually God Himself. He is not to receive our worship, nor is he our Creator. Nor is he physically made from words God spoke.
t8, good post.
Will you please watch all his videos.
I believe *so far* that he is a true man of God.
Watch the power of the Lord working miracles.God working miracles starting with a poor country
full of idol worship,and witchcraft.
This is a great witness to the world.
God showing that He is true,and loving.
God loves every person;but hates the evil in them.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,06:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,21:14) The being next to God is given a form based on the Word of God. His basic substance(spirit) is God's own Word.
Wakeup,The being NEXT TO God is not actually God Himself. He is not to receive our worship, nor is he our Creator. Nor is he physically made from words God spoke.
t8, good post.
Mike B.Did I ever say that the being next to God is God Himself?
Or Did I say The word *OF* God was next to God.The Word of God was brought fort; not God.
But the Word *OF* God.wakeup.
Wakeup,
If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:42) Wakeup, If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him.
Mike B.Quote If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him. I can not believe the scales covering your eyes are so thick.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MY SELF?
THE WORD *OF* GOD IS GOD'S OWN WORD.
GOD HAS HIS OWN WORD IN HIS POSSESSION.
GOD HAS THE HS. ALSO IN HIS POSSESSION.
ONE GOD;WITH *HIS* WORD AND *HIS* HS.HIS WORD AND HIS HS, IS NOT SOME OTHER, SEPERATE FROM GOD.
YOUR WORD IS NOT SOME OTHER,BUT IS IN YOU.
YOUR WORD OBEYS YOU, AND NONE ELSE.
YOUR WORD CAN NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO SAY.
YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF YOUR WORD.
YOUR WORDS COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH BY THE WILL OF YOUR OWN MIND,WHICH IS YOU.
YOUR WORD CAN MAKE ONE FEEL GOOD; OR ANGRY, OR SAD.
YOUR WORD CAN BRING THINGS INTO REALITY.
YOUR WORD CAN GET YOU INTO TROUBLE,OR BRING YOU HONOUR.
MAN JUDGE YOU BY YOUR WORD.
YOU AND YOUR WORD IS ONE PERSON CALLED MIKE.
NO ONE CAN SEPERATE YOU FROM YOUR WORD.
YOU CARRY YOUR WORD TO THE GRAVE.If you still cannot understand; then there is a blockage.
There is nothing anyone can do.wakeup.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 20 2014,08:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,15:39) Mike B. My question was.
Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?
Out of what substance?
Is it not of the Word of God in him?With no Word of God In him;there would be nothing to
form,there will be just emptiness.
Therefore not resurrected.The Word of God was given a form based on that same substance.The Word.
wakeup.
God is spirit. Thus we are born if his nature.
T8.True;And God's nature is what He stands for.
What He stands for is in the Words He has spoken.
And that was revealed to us by His Word made flesh/Jesus.
He taught us what God stands for.
He taught us what God's will is; what God wants from us.
If we follow; we also will be spirit in his Word,and His Word in God.
We will have God's nature Holy and true.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,17:31) If you still cannot understand; then there is a blockage.
There is nothing anyone can do.
Oh, I've always UNDERSTOOD what it is you were claiming, Wakeup.I just am not clear about whether or not you realize that a person's POSSESSIONS are not actually that PERSON.
If the Word is one of God's many POSSESSIONS, then the Word is not God Himself. And if the Word is not God Himself, then the Word is not the one who created us, nor does the Word deserve our worship.
And if YOU can't understand that, there is a blockage.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,17:51) True;And God's nature is what He stands for.
What He stands for is in the Words He has spoken.
God's nature is “spirit”, Wakeup.Don't go adding to what the scriptures say. They say that God is spirit. They don't say that God is any of His own words.
A person's words are not their “nature”.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2014,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,17:51) True;And God's nature is what He stands for.
What He stands for is in the Words He has spoken.
God's nature is “spirit”, Wakeup.Don't go adding to what the scriptures say. They say that God is spirit. They don't say that God is any of His own words.
A person's words are not their “nature”.
MikeB.A swindler using lying words to deceive a person
to steal all his money.
That person will be put in jail; NOT his lying words,
and leave the person free, to repeat his deceptions.GOD'S WORDS IS RESPONSIBLE OF ALL HIS DOINGS.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT HE IS RIGHTEOUS AND JUST.
AND HAS PROVEN HIS LOVE TO US,BY GIVING HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AS A SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS.HE PROVED HIS LOVE BY HIS WORD GIVEN TO US TO
FIND HIM.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 25 2014,03:31) MikeB. A swindler using lying words to deceive a person
to steal all his money.
That person will be put in jail; NOT his lying words………..
And a thief using a gun to rob someone will also be put in jail, while the gun will not.Are you seeing the difference between possessions and people?
The gun is a possession – not the person himself. The lying words were possessions of the swindler – not the swindler himself.
That's why the words and the gun don't get locked up. They are merely possessions of the PERSON who actually did the crime.
Wakeup, HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did he do this?
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