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Wakeup,
I think you missed this post from me:
Now, I want to know if Thomas thought he was looking at God Almighty when he said, “My Lord and my God”.
What is your answer? Was he looking at the Word of God, and seeing God Almighty Himself? Or was he looking at the Word of God and seeing a SERVANT of God?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,12:21) Wakeup, I think you missed this post from me:
Now, I want to know if Thomas thought he was looking at God Almighty when he said, “My Lord and my God”.
What is your answer? Was he looking at the Word of God, and seeing God Almighty Himself? Or was he looking at the Word of God and seeing a SERVANT of God?
Mikeb.Can you not decern that???
He was well aware of what he is saying.
My Lord = Jesus: My God = Jesus Father.Something you can learn from.
wakeup.
I'm asking for a clear and direct ANSWER, Wakeup.
Are you telling me that you aren't able to even answer questions concerning the doctrine you preach?
I want to know if Thomas thought he was looking at God Almighty, or if he thought he was looking at someone OTHER THAN God Almighty when he said the words, “My Lord and my God”.
What is your clear and direct ANSWER to my question?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2014,03:37) I'm asking for a clear and direct ANSWER, Wakeup. Are you telling me that you aren't able to even answer questions concerning the doctrine you preach?
I want to know if Thomas thought he was looking at God Almighty, or if he thought he was looking at someone OTHER THAN God Almighty when he said the words, “My Lord and my God”.
What is your clear and direct ANSWER to my question?
Mike B.My clear and direct answer is.
My Lord ***AND*** My God.
God is in Him.wakeup.
Mike
you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
WSO WHEN THEY SAW JESUS THEY ALL SAW TWO PEOPLE MOVING ,AND JESUS ADD A SWITCH ON HIS SIDE TO CUT OFF GOD SPEAKING SO HE COULD GIVE SOME OF HIS OWN WORDS
BUT THEN GOD ADD ALSO A SWITCH TO CUT OFF JESUS WHEN HE WANTED TO TALK, RIGHT
BECAUSE SCRIPTURES SAYS “THAT JESUS WAS WITH /IN GOD AND GOD WAS WITH/IN JESUS
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,12:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
WSO WHEN THEY SAW JESUS THEY ALL SAW TWO PEOPLE MOVING ,AND JESUS ADD A SWITCH ON HIS SIDE TO CUT OFF GOD SPEAKING SO HE COULD GIVE SOME OF HIS OWN WORDS
BUT THEN GOD ADD ALSO A SWITCH TO CUT OFF JESUS WHEN HE WANTED TO TALK, RIGHT
BECAUSE SCRIPTURES SAYS “THAT JESUS WAS WITH /IN GOD AND GOD WAS WITH/IN JESUS
T.Thomas knew Jesus,and you dont.
Thats why all those silly things you speak.
Thomas understood;that where is Jesus there is also God.I have been so long with you,and you ask me show us God?
If you know that verse.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:51) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,12:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
WSO WHEN THEY SAW JESUS THEY ALL SAW TWO PEOPLE MOVING ,AND JESUS ADD A SWITCH ON HIS SIDE TO CUT OFF GOD SPEAKING SO HE COULD GIVE SOME OF HIS OWN WORDS
BUT THEN GOD ADD ALSO A SWITCH TO CUT OFF JESUS WHEN HE WANTED TO TALK, RIGHT
BECAUSE SCRIPTURES SAYS “THAT JESUS WAS WITH /IN GOD AND GOD WAS WITH/IN JESUS
T.Thomas knew Jesus,and you dont.
Thats why all those silly things you speak.
Thomas understood;that where is Jesus there is also God.I have been so long with you,and you ask me show us God?
If you know that verse.wakeup.
wJesus did not say that but he said ;
Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
Jn 17:2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
Jn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Jn 17:4 I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.
Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.so the one that sender is different from the one that is send right
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:51) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,12:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,05:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup ,he lives in confusion and so does not come in the light of truth but as to stay in the dark ,this is where he wakeup is at his best ,
mystery religion is his world
T.You will see My answer if you just look and read it.
Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
And you can not even understand my answer.
The blockage must be very severe.wakeup.
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
WSO WHEN THEY SAW JESUS THEY ALL SAW TWO PEOPLE MOVING ,AND JESUS ADD A SWITCH ON HIS SIDE TO CUT OFF GOD SPEAKING SO HE COULD GIVE SOME OF HIS OWN WORDS
BUT THEN GOD ADD ALSO A SWITCH TO CUT OFF JESUS WHEN HE WANTED TO TALK, RIGHT
BECAUSE SCRIPTURES SAYS “THAT JESUS WAS WITH /IN GOD AND GOD WAS WITH/IN JESUS
T.Thomas knew Jesus,and you dont.
Thats why all those silly things you speak.
Thomas understood;that where is Jesus there is also God.I have been so long with you,and you ask me show us God?
If you know that verse.wakeup.
wJesus did not say that but he said ;
Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
Jn 17:2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
Jn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Jn 17:4 I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.
Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.so the one that sender is different from the one that is send right
T.Can you interpret this if you can?
Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with ***the glory I had with you before the world began***.
But you said He was created in year one,when he was born?
Is this not called confusion?wakeup.
W
Quote But you said He was created in year one,when he was born?
Is this not called confusion?YOU SAID THAT NOT ME ;;
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:48) W Quote But you said He was created in year one,when he was born?
Is this not called confusion?YOU SAID THAT NOT ME ;;
T.1.My question not answered.
2.If he was created: it has to be in the year ONE.
wakeup.
W
Quote Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with ***the glory I had with you before the world began***. Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.Jn 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
Jn 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.Jn 10:17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again.
Jn 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.IT SEEMS QUITE STRAIT FORWARD READING TO ME ,THIS IS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT ANY EFFORT IT MEANS WHAT IS WRITTEN
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:17) W Quote Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with ***the glory I had with you before the world began***. Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.Jn 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
Jn 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.Jn 10:17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again.
Jn 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.IT SEEMS QUITE STRAIT FORWARD READING TO ME ,THIS IS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT ANY EFFORT IT MEANS WHAT IS WRITTEN
T.You only say; that was easy to understand.
But did not explain what it is you understand.
Could be anything.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2013,12:17) Mike you never will get a strait answer from wakeup…………..
It sure seems that way, Pierre.Wakeup, was the Word God Almighty while he was on earth? Or was the Word someone OTHER THAN God Almighty when he was on earth? Which one please?
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2013,15:46) Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him.
That ALMOST seems like an answer.Are you saying that Jesus is the ONE who is “Lord”, and God is the ONE who is inside that Lord?
And therefore, Jesus wasn't God Almighty Himself, but a person OTHER THAN God Almighty, in whom God Almighty dwelled?
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2013,20:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:41)
WQuote Thomas understood that Jesus is the Lord; and God is inside Him. THAT IS AN OPINION ;NOT SCRIPTURAL TRUTH ;
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH TO BACK THIS UP
T.You should know by now.
I am in the Father and the Father in me.
wakeup.
But the Father is in all righteous people, right?Did anyone address Samuel as “Samuel AND my God”? Did they address Moses, the man of God, as “Moses AND my God”?
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