A false view of matthew 4:4?

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup.

W

THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT;

Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.
Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.”
Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”
Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed;

blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,21:49)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,10:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:51) What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? Would you say dont do that? Well Jesus did not forbid him, because He is Thomas's Lord. But was Jesus also the Almighty God who created Thomas?  What do you say, Wakeup?  And if so, do you think Thomas somehow knew that he was staring God Almighty in the face as he was kneeling?  And if so, why then did John tell us that no one has seen God at any time? Mike B. 1.  Apparently Thomas has more knowledge than you. 2.  He understood that Jesus is the Son of God. 3.  He knew he was not staring at God in the face. 4.  But you dont know, and can not understand. And refuse to understand the mysteries of God. 5.  I am trying very hard to explain,and you turn it into a mockery.(you are NOT serious).   6.  How can you ever be given understannding with such an attitude?

1.  Agreed.

2.  Agreed.

3.  Agreed.

4.  Ad hominem.

5.  So explain then.  You made a claim, I questioned some aspects of that claim.  Get to explaining.

6.  Ad hominem.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33)

MikeB. Do you think God's word is: 1.mighty. 2.almighty. 3.none of 1 and 2.

Mighty.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33)

Do you believe God is: 1.mighty. 2.almighty. 3.none of 1 and 2.

Almighty.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33)

All power has been given to the Son. Do you think Jesus is: 1.mighty 2.almighty. 3.just a servant.

The mightiest of all God's servants……… but not Almighty like the God who GAVE him that power in the first place.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33)

Angels are commanded to worship the Son: 1.Does that include us. 2.does that not include us. 3.we are just to honour him.

When God again brings His firstborn into the world, all knees will bow.  That includes God's angels.  The bowing of the knees, in this case, has nothing to do with “worship”.  We and the angels will “bow before”, “pay homage”, and “do obeisance” to God's firstborn Son.  We will not “worship” him.

As the angel in Revelation told John two times, “Worship GOD“. Who is “GOD”, Wakeup?

[terraricca]

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T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses?

show one other gospel that tells the story of Thomas

of cause it seems you like to rely on what is your view ;but tell me that Thomas did not believe at first ,rock solid ,then you make him your principal witness to declare that Christ his the father ;;hummm,hummm,

Christ rebuke him did you not read that none of the others seem not have been move by what he said why

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2013,01:58)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,21:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,10:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:51) What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? Would you say dont do that? Well Jesus did not forbid him, because He is Thomas's Lord. But was Jesus also the Almighty God who created Thomas?  What do you say, Wakeup?  And if so, do you think Thomas somehow knew that he was staring God Almighty in the face as he was kneeling?  And if so, why then did John tell us that no one has seen God at any time? Mike B. 1.  Apparently Thomas has more knowledge than you. 2.  He understood that Jesus is the Son of God. 3.  He knew he was not staring at God in the face. 4.  But you dont know, and can not understand. And refuse to understand the mysteries of God. 5.  I am trying very hard to explain,and you turn it into a mockery.(you are NOT serious).   6.  How can you ever be given understannding with such an attitude? 1.  Agreed. 2.  Agreed. 3.  Agreed. 4.  Ad hominem. 5.  So explain then.  You made a claim, I questioned some aspects of that claim.  Get to explaining. 6.  Ad hominem.

MikeB.

That is not the attuitude of a hungry spirit.
You have adopted Terra's spirit.
The spirit of mocking things one can not undestand.
Terra's spirit is the spirit of accusing, without any evidence.
He enjoys doing that;it gives him satisfaction;pleasure.
He can not expect the Holy spirit to help him,it does not work that way. A humble heart is needed.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

WAKEUP

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2013,02:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33) MikeB. Do you think God's word is: 1.mighty. 2.almighty. 3.none of 1 and 2. Mighty. Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33) Do you believe God is: 1.mighty. 2.almighty. 3.none of 1 and 2. Almighty. Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33) All power has been given to the Son. Do you think Jesus is: 1.mighty 2.almighty. 3.just a servant. The mightiest of all God's servants……… but not Almighty like the God who GAVE him that power in the first place. Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:33) Angels are commanded to worship the Son: 1.Does that include us. 2.does that not include us. 3.we are just to honour him. When God again brings His firstborn into the world, all knees will bow.  That includes God's angels.  The bowing of the knees, in this case, has nothing to do with “worship”.  We and the angels will “bow before”, “pay homage”, and “do obeisance” to God's firstborn Son.  We will not “worship” him.   As the angel in Revelation told John two times, “Worship GOD“.  Who is “GOD”, Wakeup?

MikeB.

What you are doing is trying to put a division
between God and his Word.

1.God is almighty.(he can do anything).
2.But his Word is not almighty.(his word can not do anything).

1.God is to be worshipped.(God is one)
2.His Word is to be honoured.(his word is another one).

Kneeling and kneeling can mean two things.
1.kneeling before a king=honour.
2.Kneeling before a preacher= worship.
3.Kneeling before an idol=worship.
4.Kneeling before the son of God=worship.
5.Kneeling before an angel=worship.
6.Kneeling before your bride=love and honour.
7.Kneeling before satan=worship,not honour.
8.Obeying his laws=worship.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,07:46)

MikeB. What you are doing is trying to put a division between God and his Word.

If I point out that Moses was the man OF God, and not God Almighty Himself, would you accuse me of putting a division between God and Moses?

All I'm doing is pointing out that the servants OF God are not actually God Himself, Wakeup.

This goes for Moses, the servant OF God as well as for Jesus, the servant OF God.

Neither of them are God Himself. They are servants OF God.

Do you understand that?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,18:46)

MikeB. That is not the attuitude of a hungry spirit.

Wakeup,

I have been trying (successfully) to take your vague claims to task, so we can see if they really add up to a sound doctrine.

And so far, it has resulted in you getting defensive any time your own doctrine pits you against scripture and common sense.

Will you really blame my attitude for the fact that your doctrine, when followed all the way through, amounts to unscriptural contradictions?

Now, I want to know if Thomas thought he was looking at God Almighty when he said, “My Lord and my God”.

What is your answer? Was he looking at the Word of God, and seeing God Almighty Himself? Or was he looking at the Word of God and seeing a SERVANT of God?

[terraricca]

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Terra's spirit is the spirit of accusing, without any evidence. He enjoys doing that;it gives him satisfaction;pleasure.

you should think hard and deep in your heart and see what is in it ,friend ,

all you have been doing is not responding when you cannot answer the questions from Mike or me and others ;that his evidence

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

T.

Scripture please.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup.

W

PUT GLASSES ON

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON

T.

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THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT;

Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time?
Where is the scripture?
I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup.

w

i did not see the approval of what he say either

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup. w i did not see the approval of what he say either

T.

Go and protest to Thomas.
He should not have said that,because it's not
what you believe.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,07:17)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup. w i did not see the approval of what he say either T. Go and protest to Thomas. He should not have said that,because it's not what you believe. wakeup.

THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:48)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,07:17) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup. w i did not see the approval of what he say either T. Go and protest to Thomas. He should not have said that,because it's not what you believe. wakeup. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER

T.

THOMAS SAID:

MY LORD AND MY GOD.

(LORD). (FATHER).
THE KING OF ISRAEL AND HIS REDEEMER THE LORD OF HOST.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,07:17) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup. w i did not see the approval of what he say either T. Go and protest to Thomas. He should not have said that,because it's not what you believe. wakeup. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER T. THOMAS SAID: MY LORD AND MY GOD.          (LORD).                                              (FATHER). THE KING OF ISRAEL AND HIS REDEEMER THE LORD OF HOST. wakeup.

w

where in scriptures is that ?

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,14:58)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,07:17) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:22) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,19:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,07:58) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,10:30) w Quote What would you say when some one kneels down and calls you my lord and my god? so you are sure that what Thomas said IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH OF GOD  BUT THEIR ARE NO WITNESSES TO SUPPORT HIM RIGHT T. All the gospels speaks of thomas. You say there are no witnesses? wakeup. W THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Jn 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. Jn 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” Jn 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Jn 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Jn 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” T. Scripture please. wakeup. W PUT GLASSES ON T. Quote THOMAS SAYS THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HIS GUILT; Did Thomas tell you that he felt guilty at that time? Where is the scripture? I have my binoculars on,and still can not see scripture. wakeup. w i did not see the approval of what he say either T. Go and protest to Thomas. He should not have said that,because it's not what you believe. wakeup. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER T. THOMAS SAID: MY LORD AND MY GOD.          (LORD).                                              (FATHER). THE KING OF ISRAEL AND HIS REDEEMER THE LORD OF HOST. wakeup. w   where in scriptures is that ?

T.

You can not find that in your glossy bible.
I have quoted that scripture three to four times.
And you can not see.

Many bibles says it differently.
Because they can not make sense of the kjv version.
They see that as a contradiction.So they change it according to their commonsense.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

W

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T. You can not find that in your glossy bible. I have quoted that scripture three to four times. And you can not see. Many bibles says it differently. Because they can not make sense of the kjv version. They see that as a contradiction.So they change it according to their commonsense. wakeup.

YOU CAN SAY IT IN YOU OLD ENGLISH KJV I HAVE BIBLE TRANSLATORS

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