A false view of matthew 4:4?

[terraricca]

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T. Good; now, the greatest god in the world is money. Do people bow down and pray to money? wakeup.

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T. Money is the greatest god in this world: People sacrifice their lives for money. true/false? Kill millions for money. They also *WILL* go against own fam. for money. True/false?

the love that we should give to God many even most give that love to the world of wealth,= money = earthly possession

GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM

[journey42]

terraricca,Dec. wrote:

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GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM

Pierre,

Matthew 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,00:58)

w Quote T. Good; now, the greatest god in the world is money. Do people bow down and pray to money? wakeup. Quote T. Money is the greatest god in this world: People sacrifice their lives for money. true/false? Kill millions for money. They also *WILL*  go against own fam. for money. True/false? the love that we should give to God many even most give that love to the world of wealth,= money = earthly possession   GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM

T.

Wrong:

For God so loved *the world* that he gave his only begotten Son.
God loves us first.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,23:00)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,12:19) Wakeup, Do you understand that both the Hebrew and Greek words for “worship” also mean “do obeisance” or “pay homage” or “bow down before in an act of reverence”? The same words mean all of those things, and are translated as each of those things throughout scripture. So in the end, it all comes down to an English translator's CHOICE to translate as “worship” here, and as “bowed down before” there. Many Trinitarian translators jump at the chance to CHOOSE “worship” in verses that refer to Jesus.  Don't fall for their Trinitarian tricks, Wakeup.  Jesus was bowed down before in acts of reverence, like many lords, kings, and nobles were in many scriptures.  But Jesus was never once “worshiped” in any scripture. Lesson #1:  Do you accept the FACT that the Hebrew word “shachah”, and the Greek word “proskuneo”, both refer not only to “worship”, but also to non-worship acts of reverence towards people who are not God?  YES or NO? MikeB. The man Jesus was called Lord, and honoured as the Son of God. We *depend on Him* to have life. We should worship Him: that is acceptable to God.

I didn't see an answer to my bolded question, Wakeup.

Please answer my question DIRECTLY.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 12 2013,05:24)

terraricca,Dec. wrote: [/quote] Quote GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM Pierre, Matthew 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

j42

Mt 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

what is the difference between righteous and unrighteous ,and what is the difference between evil and good

and also what is the difference between unrighteous and evil

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,00:58) w Quote T. Good; now, the greatest god in the world is money. Do people bow down and pray to money? wakeup. Quote T. Money is the greatest god in this world: People sacrifice their lives for money. true/false? Kill millions for money. They also *WILL*  go against own fam. for money. True/false? the love that we should give to God many even most give that love to the world of wealth,= money = earthly possession   GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM T. Wrong: For God so loved *the world* that he gave his only begotten Son. God loves us first. wakeup.

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wrong ;scriptures says that he as offer to all but his love is only so given to those who love him

it take some understanding here

wicked receive nothing but the righteous that accept his gift of grace receive his love as well because they love God

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2013,10:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,23:00) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,12:19) Wakeup, Do you understand that both the Hebrew and Greek words for “worship” also mean “do obeisance” or “pay homage” or “bow down before in an act of reverence”? The same words mean all of those things, and are translated as each of those things throughout scripture. So in the end, it all comes down to an English translator's CHOICE to translate as “worship” here, and as “bowed down before” there. Many Trinitarian translators jump at the chance to CHOOSE “worship” in verses that refer to Jesus.  Don't fall for their Trinitarian tricks, Wakeup.  Jesus was bowed down before in acts of reverence, like many lords, kings, and nobles were in many scriptures.  But Jesus was never once “worshiped” in any scripture. Lesson #1:  Do you accept the FACT that the Hebrew word “shachah”, and the Greek word “proskuneo”, both refer not only to “worship”, but also to non-worship acts of reverence towards people who are not God?  YES or NO? MikeB. The man Jesus was called Lord, and honoured as the Son of God. We *depend on Him* to have life. We should worship Him: that is acceptable to God. I didn't see an answer to my bolded question, Wakeup. Please answer my question DIRECTLY.

Mikeb.

It does not matter how it should be translated.
Your conscience should tell you the difference.
Of how to worship God,and how to honour a man.
You can bow to a king like Daniel did,but never fall
down and worship.

Never fall down for the false prophet
and say you are just honouring him.
Go can not be fooled.
The LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS,THE EVERLASTING fATHER.
THE PRINCE OF PEACE WE MUST WORSHIP.(is.9).
Because God says so. God and His Word is ONE.Can not be seperated.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

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THE PRINCE OF PEACE WE MUST WORSHIP.(is.9). Because God says so. God and His Word is ONE.Can not be seperated.

1. I'm quite sure you have a flawed understanding of “everlasting father” in Isaiah 9:6. I will guide you to the correct understanding, which has nothing to do with the child being “God” – if you are interested.

2. But let's discuss “PRINCE of peace” for right now.

Ezekiel 34:24 King James Version
And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.

A. Who is “my servant David” in this context?

B. Which one of the two should we worship? The LORD, who will be our GOD? Or His SERVANT, who will be our PRINCE?

Do we worship a SERVANT/PRINCE, Wakeup?

3. If God and His Word cannot be separated, then God Himself is actually the one who became flesh, prayed TO God, and died on a tree, right?

[mikeboll64]

Also, I want to HEAR from you that you UNDERSTAND the following:

1.  “Shachah” is translated in the KJV in the following ways:

worship 99, bow 31, bow down 18, obeisance 9, reverence 5, fall down 3, themselves 2, stoop 1, crouch 1, misc 3

Do you understand that the Hebrew word “shachah” means all of the above things, and that it is merely the CHOICE of the translator whether to render it as “worship”, or as one of the other meanings listed above?

YES or NO, Wakeup.  DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 12 2013,05:24)

terraricca,Dec. wrote: [/quote] Quote GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM Pierre, Matthew 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

j42

it is not to be born rich that is the problem but to seek the riches instead of God love, but to do this we have to love the father for the things he as given us ,

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,00:58) w Quote T. Good; now, the greatest god in the world is money. Do people bow down and pray to money? wakeup. Quote T. Money is the greatest god in this world: People sacrifice their lives for money. true/false? Kill millions for money. They also *WILL*  go against own fam. for money. True/false? the love that we should give to God many even most give that love to the world of wealth,= money = earthly possession   GOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS LOVE WITH ANYONE THAN THE ONES THAT LOVE HIM T. Wrong: For God so loved *the world* that he gave his only begotten Son. God loves us first. wakeup.

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what all men received his what as been created for food and water and shelter;

most of all other things is men made ,

[kerwin]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2013,10:43)

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2013,04:33) Wakeup, They are singing the glory of God and his anointed. Kerwin. They fall down and sing before God *and the Lamb*. The Lamb did not fall down. wakeup.

Wakeup,

So what, it is not speaking of the actions of the lamb.

1 Chronicles 29:20
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king.

David is not said to bow his head.

[Wakeup]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,06:11)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2013,10:43) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2013,04:33) Wakeup, They are singing the glory of God and his anointed. Kerwin. They fall down and sing before God *and the Lamb*. The Lamb did not fall down. wakeup. Wakeup, So what,  it is not speaking of the actions of the lamb. 1 Chronicles 29:20 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. David is not said to bow his head.

Kerwin.

All the host of heaven fell down to worship God and the Lamb.
King David fasted for forty days to ask for for giveness.
He bowed his head alright.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Kerwin has made a great point, Wakeup. You think that because the others bowed before the Lamb and God, the Lamb is somehow equated with his God.

But in the passage Kerwin quoted, the congregation bowed down before the King and God. Using your reasoning, that should also equate King David with God.

On the other hand, if you DON'T believe it equates King David with God, then you have no bearing with which to claim it DOES equate the Lamb with God in the passage you quoted.

They are identical situations – where a congregation bows before God and someone else, right?

Well done, Kerwin.

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,04:08)

Kerwin has made a great point, Wakeup.  You think that because the others bowed before the Lamb and God, the Lamb is somehow equated with his God. But in the passage Kerwin quoted, the congregation bowed down before the King and God.  Using your reasoning, that should also equate King David with God. On the other hand, if you DON'T believe it equates King David with God, then you have no bearing with which to claim it DOES equate the Lamb with God in the passage you quoted. They are identical situations – where a congregation bows before God and someone else, right? Well done, Kerwin.

Mike b.

King david is not Jesus.
Incase you dont know.

The Lamb of God is also his own Word.
Sitting on the same throne,with the four beasts around.
The Word of God made flesh.
You are still far from grasping it.
God and his Word IS ONE GOD.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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King david is not Jesus. Incase you dont know.

did you know that the scriptures where not written for king David but for Jesus

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2013,09:52)

w Quote King david is not Jesus. Incase you dont know. did you know that the scriptures where not written for king David but for Jesus

T.

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

wakeup.

[kerwin]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,14:30)

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,06:11) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2013,10:43) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2013,04:33) Wakeup, They are singing the glory of God and his anointed. Kerwin. They fall down and sing before God *and the Lamb*. The Lamb did not fall down. wakeup. Wakeup, So what,  it is not speaking of the actions of the lamb. 1 Chronicles 29:20 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. David is not said to bow his head. Kerwin. All the host of heaven fell down to worship God and the Lamb. King David fasted for forty days to ask for for giveness. He bowed his head alright. wakeup.

Wakeup,

It does not state it in that passage.

[kerwin]

Wakeup,

It is written:

Ezekiel 34:20-24
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 Therefore thus saith the Lord God unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. 21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; 22 therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. 23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

Who is David in this passage?

[mikeboll64]

Wakeup? Kerwin and I have both asked you the same question. Why do you not answer it?

And why don't you answer the 9th post on page 49?

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