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Quote (942767 @ Sep. 28 2013,12:29) When he was dying, he said the following: Quote Mat 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was quoting the beginning of Psalm 110, right?David started the psalm by asking that question, and then went on to describe the terrible state he (or Jesus on the stake) was in, and then concluded in the end that God had never actually forsaken him.
Jesus didn't say those words to convey that he actually believed God had forsaken him. Instead, it was to let the witnesses of his death know that Psalm 110 was one more prophecy he came to fulfill.
With his dying breath, he pointed people to a scripture that had been written many years earlier, but described the very moment that was currently happening.
Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,01:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,05:56) Marty do you find hard to answer me
Hi Pierre:I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I never said you were an fool ,and this is true ; so I do not want to REPENT FROM SOMETHING I NEVER COMMIT,
SO DO NOT USE A POOR NON EXISTENT EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ,
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2013,02:22) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 28 2013,12:29) When he was dying, he said the following: Quote Mat 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was quoting the beginning of Psalm 110, right?David started the psalm by asking that question, and then went on to describe the terrible state he (or Jesus on the stake) was in, and then concluded in the end that God had never actually forsaken him.
Jesus didn't say those words to convey that he actually believed God had forsaken him. Instead, it was to let the witnesses of his death know that Psalm 110 was one more prophecy he came to fulfill.
With his dying breath, he pointed people to a scripture that had been written many years earlier, but described the very moment that was currently happening.
THIS IS CORRECT MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2013,07:22) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 28 2013,12:29) When he was dying, he said the following: Quote Mat 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was quoting the beginning of Psalm 110, right?David started the psalm by asking that question, and then went on to describe the terrible state he (or Jesus on the stake) was in, and then concluded in the end that God had never actually forsaken him.
Jesus didn't say those words to convey that he actually believed God had forsaken him. Instead, it was to let the witnesses of his death know that Psalm 110 was one more prophecy he came to fulfill.
With his dying breath, he pointed people to a scripture that had been written many years earlier, but described the very moment that was currently happening.
No, this was actually being fulfilled in his life.Psalm 22? Not 110.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,02:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2013,07:22) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 28 2013,12:29) When he was dying, he said the following: Quote Mat 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was quoting the beginning of Psalm 110, right?David started the psalm by asking that question, and then went on to describe the terrible state he (or Jesus on the stake) was in, and then concluded in the end that God had never actually forsaken him.
Jesus didn't say those words to convey that he actually believed God had forsaken him. Instead, it was to let the witnesses of his death know that Psalm 110 was one more prophecy he came to fulfill.
With his dying breath, he pointed people to a scripture that had been written many years earlier, but described the very moment that was currently happening.
No, this was actually being fulfilled in his life.Psalm 22? Not 110.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Martyyou are absolutely right ,I spoke too fast it is Sp 22
Mike will adjust ,but the reason for Christ saying it or quote Sp 22 is according to what Mike was saying .
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,07:34) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,01:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,05:56) Marty do you find hard to answer me
Hi Pierre:I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I never said you were an fool ,and this is true ; so I do not want to REPENT FROM SOMETHING I NEVER COMMIT,
SO DO NOT USE A POOR NON EXISTENT EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ,
Well then since you were addressing me when you said the following:Quote
MOST ARE FOOLS THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW A FEW SCRIPTURES IN YOUR HEAD ,OR READ IT A COUPLES TIME ,YOU KNOW ARE AN EXPERT IN GIVEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD TO OTHERS ; NO YOU ARE NOT ;YOU ARE PURELY DISTRIBUTING YOUR OWN VIEWS AND INTERPRETATION OF OPINIONS ,To whom were you referring by the words “most fools”?
But not only this, you made some other accusations that I can probably add to this one.
If you want to discuss the scriptures, I will give you my understanding, and that is all that I can do. If you do not agree with me, that is ok.
But stop judging me and accusing me of serving someone other than God.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2013,11:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,17:27) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 27 2013,03:48) Hi Wakeup: …….and so, if Jesus is the Word in John 1c, then what I am asking you is the following question: Is Jesus God?
Marty.In the *BEGINNING WAS* the Word,
and the Word was *WITH* Jehovah.
And the Word *WAS* Jehovah.
Why *WAS* jehovah? Why BEGINNING?
Because before JEHOVAH *brought forth* his Word
out of himself, the Word was within Jehovah; *WAS* still in him; therefore the word *WAS* Jehovah.
After Jehovah brought forth his Word;Then his Word,
*WAS WITH*Jehova'h; next to him.Working on Jehovah's
command.
Marty makes a good point, Wakeup.If you believe the Word is Jesus, and you believe “the Word was Jehovah”, then it is a case of:
1. Jesus actually IS Jehovah God.
2. Something that WAS Jehovah God became something that is no longer Jehovah God.You said that it isn't easy to “unravel this mystery”, and then went on to explain things in a way that made my head spin.
Both of those things smack of Trinitarianism, Wakeup. They always tell us how hard it is to come to terms with the “great mystery” that Jesus is God Almighty. And then go on to “explain” it to us in words that no sensible person can even understand. So if your current understanding is that difficult to explain, maybe you need to adjust your current understanding.
You are right that Jesus is most definitely the Word who was with Jehovah in the beginning. The whole of John's gospel, and the rest of the NT, attest to this fact many times.
But you are wrong that Jesus WAS God, and then WASN'T God anymore. Jesus has always (since his creation) been an individual being who is not the God who created him. He is God's SON. Surely God didn't break a piece off of Himself and call it His SON.
This is the kind of trouble people get into with that flawed Trinitarian translation “and the Word was God”. Common sense should be enough to tell any one of us that “God” could not possibly have been WITH “God” in the beginning.
So although the Trinitarians originally botched that translation on purpose to get people to believe Jesus was also “God” – the stumbling block they laid continues to trip up even non-Trinitarians.
Remember that the Coptic language was the first language into which the NT was translated……. that used an indefinite article. And in the Coptic translation, John 1:1 says, “and the Word was a god”.
That means that the very first time someone had a chance to translate 1:1c as “the Word was a god”………. THEY DID IT. And that translation was written very close to the time the original disciples were on the earth, Wakeup.
Please at least give that translation some thought. Because the alternative is that “Jehovah” was WITH “Jehovah” in the beginning. And even the 25 TRINITARIAN scholars who produced the NET Bible, after explaining that “a god” is a possible translation, say:
The construction in John 1:1c does not equate the Word with the person of God (this is ruled out by 1:1b, “the Word was with God”)
We should all be able to see this common sense, IMO. The Word cannot BE “the person of God”, because the Word was WITH “the person of God”.
Please think about these things. Search the scriptures and tell me if any scripture in the entire Bible would prohibit Jesus from being “a god” who was WITH “the God” in the beginning.
Mike.You and your word inside you is one/ one Mike.
If you *can* project out *your word* and give him a body.
And you and him,your image are communicating
mind to mind.Because you *think*; and then your word come out.You are in control.If you dont think,your word will not and can not come out.It does not matter what you call your word,it is still and always be your word,it will always be from inside you.
It does not matter *how many images* of your self you
projected out *as your image*;*it is still your word*.One can not say;there are many Michaels.
There is *one* Michael and many images of him.re' worshipping Jesus as God.
We and angels are *commanded* to worship him.
Without him there is no life,we depend on his mercy.
He is the *one* door to God his Father.Without him we can not get to God.We can only come to God by studying his Word in scripture,there is no other way.
Not even through words *about* the scriptures,by men.
so: is he not God? Is it wrong to call him God? And *He* worships the one he came out off?He worships the one that is in control.
They say Jesus is God; its true but *not accurate*, not correct.
Because he remains to be, and always will be the *Word* of God that we also *have to* worship,and it is *He* that died
on the cross,not His Father.They will say; well there is then two Gods.
No: just the one God and *his image* which is his Word.
So we worship God and what came out of him.
We worship God and his breath so to speak.
If it's still is not clear to you,please ask more questions.wakeup.
Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,03:12) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,07:34) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,01:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,05:56) Marty do you find hard to answer me
Hi Pierre:I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I never said you were an fool ,and this is true ; so I do not want to REPENT FROM SOMETHING I NEVER COMMIT,
SO DO NOT USE A POOR NON EXISTENT EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ,
Well then since you were addressing me when you said the following:Quote
MOST ARE FOOLS THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW A FEW SCRIPTURES IN YOUR HEAD ,OR READ IT A COUPLES TIME ,YOU KNOW ARE AN EXPERT IN GIVEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD TO OTHERS ; NO YOU ARE NOT ;YOU ARE PURELY DISTRIBUTING YOUR OWN VIEWS AND INTERPRETATION OF OPINIONS ,To whom were you referring by the words “most fools”?
But not only this, you made some other accusations that I can probably add to this one.
If you want to discuss the scriptures, I will give you my understanding, and that is all that I can do. If you do not agree with me, that is ok.
But stop judging me and accusing me of serving someone other than God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
if you take the whole quote you can see it i have also answered you on this ;the only thing you can blame me for is that i should have used :they ” instead of “you ” in the following description ,but that was not to point you out but those that practice those things ,so if you do practice what i have said “then yes I have called you a fool ” but if you do not practice such a thing you were in no means focused to be called a fool ;
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,12:51) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,03:12) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,07:34) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,01:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,05:56) Marty do you find hard to answer me
Hi Pierre:I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I never said you were an fool ,and this is true ; so I do not want to REPENT FROM SOMETHING I NEVER COMMIT,
SO DO NOT USE A POOR NON EXISTENT EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ,
Well then since you were addressing me when you said the following:Quote
MOST ARE FOOLS THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW A FEW SCRIPTURES IN YOUR HEAD ,OR READ IT A COUPLES TIME ,YOU KNOW ARE AN EXPERT IN GIVEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD TO OTHERS ; NO YOU ARE NOT ;YOU ARE PURELY DISTRIBUTING YOUR OWN VIEWS AND INTERPRETATION OF OPINIONS ,To whom were you referring by the words “most fools”?
But not only this, you made some other accusations that I can probably add to this one.
If you want to discuss the scriptures, I will give you my understanding, and that is all that I can do. If you do not agree with me, that is ok.
But stop judging me and accusing me of serving someone other than God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
if you take the whole quote you can see it i have also answered you on this ;the only thing you can blame me for is that i should have used :they ” instead of “you ” in the following description ,but that was not to point you out but those that practice those things ,so if you do practice what i have said “then yes I have called you a fool ” but if you do not practice such a thing you were in no means focused to be called a fool ;
No, I don't buy your explanation. You were addressing me, but even if I do practice this or that, you are not my judge.Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,21:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,12:51) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,03:12) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,07:34) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 29 2013,01:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2013,05:56) Marty do you find hard to answer me
Hi Pierre:I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I never said you were an fool ,and this is true ; so I do not want to REPENT FROM SOMETHING I NEVER COMMIT,
SO DO NOT USE A POOR NON EXISTENT EXCUSE TO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ,
Well then since you were addressing me when you said the following:Quote
MOST ARE FOOLS THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW A FEW SCRIPTURES IN YOUR HEAD ,OR READ IT A COUPLES TIME ,YOU KNOW ARE AN EXPERT IN GIVEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD TO OTHERS ; NO YOU ARE NOT ;YOU ARE PURELY DISTRIBUTING YOUR OWN VIEWS AND INTERPRETATION OF OPINIONS ,To whom were you referring by the words “most fools”?
But not only this, you made some other accusations that I can probably add to this one.
If you want to discuss the scriptures, I will give you my understanding, and that is all that I can do. If you do not agree with me, that is ok.
But stop judging me and accusing me of serving someone other than God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
if you take the whole quote you can see it i have also answered you on this ;the only thing you can blame me for is that i should have used :they ” instead of “you ” in the following description ,but that was not to point you out but those that practice those things ,so if you do practice what i have said “then yes I have called you a fool ” but if you do not practice such a thing you were in no means focused to be called a fool ;
No, I don't buy your explanation. You were addressing me, but even if I do practice this or that, you are not my judge.Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyQuote I have told you that I would not answer you until you repent for indicating I was “a fool”. Quote No, I don't buy your explanation. SO YOU ARE CLAIMING YOUR DEBT FROM ME
DO YOU THINK THAT IS WISE MY LORD MAY CLAIM YOUR DEBT THEN WHAT MT 6:12 ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
MT 6:14 “ For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
MT 6:15 “But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions.MT 9:6 “But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—
MK 11:25 “Whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father who is in heaven will also forgive you your transgressions.
LK 11:4 ‘And forgive us our sins,
For we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
And lead us not into temptation.’ ”DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE CHRIST WORDS
I DO Hi Pierre:
I have not problem forgiving anyone who has offended me, but the scriptures state the following:
Mat 18:15
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post.
If you did not call me a fool, then there is no transgression, and there is nothing to forgive.
And as I said before, if you want my understanding of the scriptures, I will give that to you, and if you disagree with me, that is ok, but if you start accusing me of serving the devil or judging me of insincerity, then I will stop discussing the scriptures with you. Why do you want to hear what I have to say on anything, if you do not think that I am serving God?
Love in Christ,
MartyMatthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
wakeup.
Marty
Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,13:06) Marty Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
You are a very proud man,
can not humble yourself,and apologise.
Even scripture will not override your pride.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,13:06) Marty Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
You are a very proud man,
can not humble yourself,and apologise.
Even scripture will not override your pride.wakeup.
All can see what I have said,I have nothing to hide ,but you did not miss a moment to slander others on the bases of you personal opinionsQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,13:06) Marty Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
You are a very proud man,
can not humble yourself,and apologise.
Even scripture will not override your pride.wakeup.
All can see what I have said,I have nothing to hide ,but you did not miss a moment to slander others on the bases of you personal opinions
What is stopping you from saying I'm sorry?
It is your pride.
'Cause your a big man of understanding.
You should never be sorry.
Calling us fools,You should apologise to us.
Your choice; we always forgive and forget.Shame on you so called follower.
Follower of whom/what?
Coming out with scriptures after scriptures,but the spirit is not right inside. Your of the world *in spirit*.
You have not changed at all. A man of the world with many bibles in his hand,thinks he is a man of God.
Thinks,no harm can come to me,cause I am in the Lord
I am saved,God is with me.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,16:01) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,13:06) Marty Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
You are a very proud man,
can not humble yourself,and apologise.
Even scripture will not override your pride.wakeup.
All can see what I have said,I have nothing to hide ,but you did not miss a moment to slander others on the bases of you personal opinions
What is stopping you from saying I'm sorry?
It is your pride.
'Cause your a big man of understanding.
You should never be sorry.
Calling us fools,You should apologise to us.
Your choice; we always forgive and forget.Shame on you so called follower.
Follower of whom/what?
Coming out with scriptures after scriptures,but the spirit is not right inside. Your of the world *in spirit*.
You have not changed at all. A man of the world with many bibles in his hand,thinks he is a man of God.
Thinks,no harm can come to me,cause I am in the Lord
I am saved,God is with me.wakeup.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING WRONG ;BUT YOU LIKE TO STICK ANYTHING ON ME WHAT YOU CAN FIND WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT SPIRIT OF YOURS
NOT OF GOD FOR SURE,I DO NOT ASK YOU TO REPENT OR ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER ,YOU ARE STANDING BEFORE OUR JUDGE JUST AS I DO ,OR ANYONE ELSE ,YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING IF YOU FIGURE THAT THAT IS SERVING GOD AND CHRIST ,WHAT CAN I DO I AM NOT YOUR MASTER ,AND YOU ARE NOT MINE ,BUT INTERFERING IN SOMEONE ELSE AFFAIRS IS NOT WISE ,I KNOW YOU LIKE TO BE FIRST IN ALL THINGS ,NOT GOOD
Quote Shame on you so called follower.
Follower of whom/what?
Coming out with scriptures after scriptures,but the spirit is not right inside. Your of the world *in spirit*.
You have not changed at all. A man of the world with many bibles in his hand,thinks he is a man of God.
Thinks,no harm can come to me,cause I am in the Lord
I am saved,God is with me.wakeup.
PURE INVENTION ;YOUR NAME SHOULD “MAKEUP” NOT WAKEUP
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2013,00:10) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,16:01) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,13:06) Marty Quote But ok, if you say that you did not call me “a fool”, then I will just have to take you at your word, although it sure seems to me that you were intending that for me since you were addressing my post. I have explain my self as soon as you have complain about it and i never changed my story ,but let it be ;as i say ,
You are a very proud man,
can not humble yourself,and apologise.
Even scripture will not override your pride.wakeup.
All can see what I have said,I have nothing to hide ,but you did not miss a moment to slander others on the bases of you personal opinions
What is stopping you from saying I'm sorry?
It is your pride.
'Cause your a big man of understanding.
You should never be sorry.
Calling us fools,You should apologise to us.
Your choice; we always forgive and forget.Shame on you so called follower.
Follower of whom/what?
Coming out with scriptures after scriptures,but the spirit is not right inside. Your of the world *in spirit*.
You have not changed at all. A man of the world with many bibles in his hand,thinks he is a man of God.
Thinks,no harm can come to me,cause I am in the Lord
I am saved,God is with me.wakeup.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING WRONG ;BUT YOU LIKE TO STICK ANYTHING ON ME WHAT YOU CAN FIND WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT SPIRIT OF YOURS
NOT OF GOD FOR SURE,I DO NOT ASK YOU TO REPENT OR ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER ,YOU ARE STANDING BEFORE OUR JUDGE JUST AS I DO ,OR ANYONE ELSE ,YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING IF YOU FIGURE THAT THAT IS SERVING GOD AND CHRIST ,WHAT CAN I DO I AM NOT YOUR MASTER ,AND YOU ARE NOT MINE ,BUT INTERFERING IN SOMEONE ELSE AFFAIRS IS NOT WISE ,I KNOW YOU LIKE TO BE FIRST IN ALL THINGS ,NOT GOOD
Quote Shame on you so called follower.
Follower of whom/what?
Coming out with scriptures after scriptures,but the spirit is not right inside. Your of the world *in spirit*.
You have not changed at all. A man of the world with many bibles in his hand,thinks he is a man of God.
Thinks,no harm can come to me,cause I am in the Lord
I am saved,God is with me.wakeup.
PURE INVENTION ;YOUR NAME SHOULD “MAKEUP” NOT WAKEUP
You have proven to all that you are a very proud man.
And that's enough to tell us that you have not the sprit of Christ in you.All you need to do is to say I'm sorry,
like *Besee* did.
No need to say sorry to me,I dont need that.
But to your brothers,for your own sake.
*I will say it for your sake*.I am sorry Marty,and brothers, for *Terra* calling you fools.
wakeup.
Quote You have proven to all that you are a very proud man.
And that's enough to tell us that you have not the sprit of Christ in you.All you need to do is to say I'm sorry,
like *Besee* did.
No need to say sorry to me,I dont need that.
But to your brothers,for your own sake.
*I will say it for your sake*.I am sorry Marty,and brothers, for *Terra* calling you fools.
wakeup.
it seems you do not know what his a brother or do you
you do not know what is a believer either ;because the way you believe “IT IS TO CHANGE THE SCRIPTURES ACCORDING TO YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES, AND THIS CAN BE SEEN IN THE TOPICS YOU ARE QUOTING ;I DO NOT MAKE THIS UP ;YOU ACT MORE AS A MUSLIM THAN AN CHRISTIAN ,YOU HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH BOD THAN MANY OTHERS ,YOU GETTING ON ME FOR NO REASON AT ALL EXCEPT THE ONE IN YOUR OWN HEAD ,THIS IS CALLED A VENDETTA ,
I DO NOT CALL ALL BELIEVERS BROTHER ,I HAVE CALLED YOU BROTHER AND REGRET IT ,BECAUSE OF SOME OF YOUR BELIEFS THAT ARE AGAINST CHRIST WORDS ,AND HAVE STILL NEVER RECEIVED ANSWERS TO MY QUESTION ;
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