1John 5:7

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  • #332344
    carmel
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    Ed wrote:

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    and if you would answer my questions, it would help immensely

    Edj,

    I repeat :

    ARE YOU STILL BLIND?

    HOW ON EARTH YOU ARE EXPECTING AN ANSWER, EITHER YES OR NO WHEN AS I EXPLAINED NONE OF THEM CAN BE APPLIED???

    NOW ANSWER:

    IS A CLOWN A BEING?

    IS A COMMERCIAL MASCOT A BEING?

    IS A COSTUME WORN BY A BEING BECOMES BEING?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332345
    carmel
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    terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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    Why is it you want alway others to prove you wrong

    Terraricca,

    OBVIOUS BECAUSE I AM RIGHT AND UNLESS YOU MAKE YOURSELF RIGHT THROUGH SCRIPTURES, I WILL REMAIN RIGHT AND TRUTH!

    Mark 13:11And when they shall lead you and deliver you up, be not thoughtful beforehand what you shall speak; but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye. For it is not you that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332346
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2013,19:56)
    t8,

    FIRST I RESPECT YOU MATURITY!!!

    NOW!

    PIN POINT ONE FALSE AND CONTRADICT ME AND PROVE IT THROUGH SCRIPTURES!

    THE SON OF GOD IS THE GODHEAD! THE WORD!

    AND THE GODHEAD IS THE TIRUNE GOD!

    THE FATHER

    THE SON

    THE HOLY SPIRIT


    Where do I start. I am spoiled for choice.

    Ask yourself how important eternal life is to you, then read this scripture.

    Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    Now, do you consider yourself to belong to the same belief as Paul? If so, then why does Paul clearly contradict you.

    yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

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    Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
    `I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

    #332363
    Ed J
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,21:44)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2013,20:02)

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,09:07)
    Jesus' spirit was 100% His Father's, since He was in his soul!!!

    Jesus'; soul was 100% the Holy Spirit!!!

    Jesus' flesh body was 100% His own ex spirit!!! THE WORD!!!

    Therefore Jesus  AS MAN was the God head in flesh form!!!

    Plus at one stage he also had Satan's spirit in hIs soul.


    Our spirits bear witness with God's spirit that we are the sons of God.

    I count at least 2 spirits. The spirit of the person and the spirit of God. And the spirits are connected which is where we become one in spirit.

    So, if the sons of God have a spirit that bears witness with God's spirit, then why does the son of God not have his own spirit too. Is he less than us?


    Hi T8,

    Yes, that is the point; excellently explained!

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Charles,

    Who is the father of Spirits?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332364
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2013,07:19)

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    Will you please answer my question…

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    First of all it is not GOD'S GREEN EARTH YET!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    No? Who created it?

    #332380
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,Feb. wrote:

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    Where do I start. I am spoiled for choice.

    t8,

    Wasn't I clear enough???

    I repeat then:

    PIN POINT ONE FALSE AND CONTRADICT ME AND PROVE IT THROUGH SCRIPTURES!

    SO FIRST PIN POINT ONE FALSE,

    THEN CONTRADICT WHAT YOU PIN POINTED BY USING SCRIPTURES WHICH SAYS THE OPPOSITE, OR NEGATE WHAT I STATED!

    notwithstanding the fact THAT ALL SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED SUPPORT MY STATEMENT!

    ENJOY!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332387
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    No?  Who created it?

    Edj,

    I repeat:

    it is not GOD'S EARTH YET!

    HE IS ONLY IN CONTROL THROUGH JESUS AS GODMAN!

    I MANUFACTURED/CREATED LOADS OF FURNITURE BUT THEY ARE NOT IN ANYWAY MINE!

    GOD'S WORLD IS SPIRITUAL AND ETERNAL LIKE HIMSELF, NOT

    FILTHY MATERIAL AND MORTAL LIKE SATAN.

    THE WORLD WAS CREATED VERY GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AND NOT BY GOD DIRECTLY BUT THROUGH SATAN HIMSELF.

    WHY THE TREE WAS OF :

    THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL???

    WHAT DOES THE TREE REPRESENT?

    WHAT DOES EVIL REPRESENT?

    WHAT DOES GOOD REPRESENT?

    WHAT DOES THE KNOWLEDGE REPRESENT?

    THIS GOES FOR YOU, SINCE YOU ARE STILL NOT ABLE YET TO DISTINGUISH WHAT GOD'S, AND WHAT SATAN'S IS!!!

    THE LIGHT( GOD) SHINES THROUGH DARKNESS(SATAN) AND DARKNESS COMPREHENDED NOT

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332389
    Ed J
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    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 11 2013,02:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,23:01)


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    No?  Who created it?

    Edj,

    I repeat:
    it is not GOD'S EARTH YET!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    It's always been God's Earth, whether you accept that or not matters not to me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332391
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 22 2012,19:14)
    (What say you?)   For 1John 5:7 to authentic: it should read…

    1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    The topic:

    #332408
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    Who is the father of Spirits?

    Edj,

    That's a very childish QUESTION.

    GOD THE FATHER IS THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT ONLY.

    GOD THE FATHER USED HIS GENUINE SPIRIT OF THE SON AND WITHIN HIM BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TRANSFORMED HIM INTO THE ENTIRE MATTER IN ORDER FOR GOD TO BE IN ALL MATTER, AS WELL.

    SO FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

    THE FATHER IS BOTH THE FATHER OF SPIRITS AND THE FATHER OF MATTER, BUT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST:

    BUT HE STILL IS IN HIS GLORY AS A SPIRIT TILL THE LAST DAY WHEN HE WOULD BE ALL IN ALL!!

    SO HE ENRICHED HIMSELF AND BECAME GOD OF ALL:
    NOT JUST OF THE SPIRITS LIKE HE WAS!!!

    17:1 John THESE things Jesus spoke, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said: Father, the hour is come,

    GLORIFY YOUR SON, THAT YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU.

    2 As thou hast given him power OVER ALL FLESH, that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast given him.

    3 Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee, (THROUGH MY GLORIFICATION)the only true God, and Jesus Christ, ( BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH )whom thou hast sent.

    20:17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to ( THE POWER OF) my Father. But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to( THE POWER OF) my Father and to your Father, to (THE POWER OF )my God and your God

    SO JESUS IS  GOD BOTH OF ALL THE SPIRITS, AND OF ALL FLESH! FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!

    AND TO BE FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER CANNOT BE LESS THAN GOD HIMSELF!

    THAT'S WHY HE IS NEXT TO HIM,AND INHERITED ALL THINGS OF THE FATHER,AND  SEEN  ONLY BY HIM.

    THAT'S WHY NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE SON IS BUT THE FATHER, AND NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE FATHER IS BUT THE SON, AND ONLY THE SON WOULD REVEAL THE FATHER TO WHOM HE WANTS, OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE SON IS THE FATHER VISIBLE ALSO,

    THE ONLY VISIBLE GOD:

    THE ONLY OFFICIALLY DECLARED TRUE GOD!  BY THE FATHER!

    Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of YOUR kingdom.

    9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore GOD, YOUR GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    YOU SEE ME YOU SEE THE FATHER!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332456
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 11 2013,03:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 10 2013,23:00)

    Who is the father of Spirits?


    Edj,

    That's a very childish QUESTION.

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    Then you agree that “the father of Spirits” is not Jesus; right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332461
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    It's always been God's Earth, whether you accept that or not matters not to me.

    Edj,

    ALL CREATION BELONG TO GOD, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

    BUT THIS WORLD WAS GIVEN TO SATAN!

    AND GOD SACRIFICED HIS SON NOT TO OWN IT, BUT TO BE IN COMMAND IN THE TRUTH,AND NO MATTER WHAT ALL SOULS WOULD EVENTUALLY BE IN THE NEXT PERFECT WORLD AT LAST,NOT VERYGOOD LIKE HE DID IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

    Read:

    1 John 2:15  Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man love the world, the charity of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, is the concupiscence of the flesh, and the concupiscence of the eyes, and the pride of life, which is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the concupiscence thereof: but he that doth the will of God, abideth for ever.

    SO WHAT IS OF THE WORLD, IS NOT OF THE FATHER.

    SO THE WORLD IS NOT OF GOD!

    IT IS OF SATAN!

    John 15:18 If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. 19 If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

    So God's world hated the son of God according to you NO???

    Can you explain why ,also Jesus never chose his appostles of God's world???

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332468
    carmel
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    Ed wrote:

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    Then you agree that “the father of Spirits” is not Jesus; right?

    WASN'T I CLEAR ENOUGH???

    I SAID  GOD THE FATHER IS THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT

    I SAID AS WELL THAT GOD THE SON IS BOTH THE FATHER OF SPIRITS AND THE FATHER OF FLESH, BOTH THE GOD OF ALL SPIRITS AND THE GOD OF ALL FLESH FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!!

    READ AGAIN SO YOU CAN SEE WELL:

    20:17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to ( THE POWER OF) my Father. But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to( THE POWER OF) my Father and to your Father, to (THE POWER OF )my God and your God

    IT PLEASED THE FATHER THAT ALL FULLNESS DWELL IN HIM.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332502
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 11 2013,04:46)

    t8,Feb. wrote:

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    Where do I start. I am spoiled for choice.

       

    t8,

    Wasn't I clear enough???

    I repeat then:

    PIN POINT ONE FALSE AND CONTRADICT ME AND PROVE IT THROUGH SCRIPTURES!

    SO FIRST PIN POINT ONE FALSE,

    THEN CONTRADICT WHAT YOU PIN POINTED BY USING SCRIPTURES WHICH SAYS THE OPPOSITE, OR NEGATE WHAT I STATED!

    notwithstanding the fact THAT ALL SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED SUPPORT MY STATEMENT!

    ENJOY!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Okay, that means you teach the the Father is the only true God and that this true God has a son called Jesus.

    Of course I agree if this is what you teach.

    #332603
    Ed J
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    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 11 2013,07:02)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,06:26)


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    Then you agree that “the father of Spirits” is not Jesus; right?

    WASN'T I CLEAR ENOUGH???

    I SAID  GOD THE FATHER IS THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT

    I SAID AS WELL THAT GOD THE SON IS BOTH THE FATHER OF SPIRITS AND THE FATHER OF FLESH, BOTH THE GOD OF ALL SPIRITS AND THE GOD OF ALL FLESH FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    So to you Jesus, rather than his father, is the the “Father of Spirits”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333070
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2013,09:20)


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    Father is the only true God

    t8,

    THAT'S RIGHT!!!

    NOW I WANT YOU TO GIVE GENUINE MANIFESTED PROOF THAT:

    THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #333074
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,13:50)

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 11 2013,07:02)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,06:26)


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    Then you agree that “the father of Spirits” is not Jesus; right?

    WASN'T I CLEAR ENOUGH???

    I SAID  GOD THE FATHER IS THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT

    I SAID AS WELL THAT GOD THE SON IS BOTH THE FATHER OF SPIRITS AND THE FATHER OF FLESH, BOTH THE GOD OF ALL SPIRITS AND THE GOD OF ALL FLESH FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    So to you Jesus, rather than his father, is the the “Father of Spirits”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Charles?

    #333162
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    So to you Jesus, rather than his father, is the the “Father of Spirits”?

    Edj,

    YOU KEEP GO ROUND AND ROUND!!!

    WHAT IN ALL THESE MILLIONS OF YEARS GOD ACQUIRED THROUGH JESUS CHRIST,THE WORD, GOD, WHICH HE AS A THE FATHER OF ALL SPIRITS NEVER HAD BEFORE?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #333164
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 12 2013,04:56)

    Ed wrote:

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    So to you Jesus, rather than his father, is the the “Father of Spirits”?

    Edj,

    YOU KEEP GO ROUND AND ROUND!!!

    WHAT IN ALL THESE MILLIONS OF YEARS GOD ACQUIRED THROUGH JESUS CHRIST,THE WORD, GOD, WHICH HE AS A THE FATHER OF ALL SPIRITS NEVER HAD BEFORE?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    Is that a “Yes” or a “No”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #335346
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    Is that a “Yes” or a “No”?

    Edj,

    THERE'S NO YES OR NO!

    ALL CREATURES BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH ARE CREATED THROUGH THE WORD, JESUS' CHRIST'S SPIRIT, GOD'S

    GOD IS THE FATHER OF ALL SPIRITS

    GOD IS THE FATHER OF ALL FLESH

     IN the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    3 ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM: ( SO HE IS THE FATHER OF ALL THINGS, WHICH INCLUDES ALL SPIRITS)

    and without him was made nothing that was made.

    THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, THE WORD! GOD!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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