1John 5:7

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  • #331157
    carmel
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2013,01:17)
    Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit?    “Yes or “No”?


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    Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit? “Yes or “No”?

    Edj,

    AFTER GLORIFICATION, YES

    #331263
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331290
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:10)
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    Edj,

    Since you don't beleive in a triune God, that's how it looks to you!

    But if the Father's spirit was in Jesus' soul, wasn't that a spirit? do you expect that Jesus should have had another ONE?

    Since Jesus was the Godhead in flesh,

    The Father's spirit was both the Father's and  Jesus'

    since he was in his soul!

    Before baptizm Jesus' had Satan's spirit in his soul.

    the same with you and all humans.

    We all have our own spirit in our soul,but it is also somebody's else,

    Jesus confirmed:

    John 14:9 Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? Philip,

    HE THAT SEETH ME SEETH THE FATHER ALSO!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331296
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 05 2013,07:02)
    Edj,

    Since you don't beleive in a triune God, that's how it looks to you!

    But if the Father's spirit was in Jesus' soul, wasn't that a spirit? do you expect that Jesus should have had another ONE?

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    The “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit.
    And the Father's spirit entered in Jesus' soul at Jesus' baptism. (John 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331297
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 05 2013,07:02)
    Edj,

    Before baptizm Jesus' had Satan's spirit in his soul.

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    Since Jesus had the entirety of “The Godhead” in his flesh, this is obvious.
    But where the separation occurs is at Jesus' death. (see Isaiah 14:19-20)  (Link)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331559
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

    [/quote]

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    The “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit.
    And the Father's spirit entered in Jesus' soul at Jesus' baptism. (John 1:14)

    Edj,

    Are you aware that there was a distinction between Jesus Christ, and the Son's spirit?

    Are you aware that the Son's spirit was used and eventually became OFFICIALLY the entire matter through his death as flesh body ONLY of THE WORD, JESUS CHRIST, on the cross,or to be more accurate he never actually died although he seemed so?

    Are you aware that during creation,the son's spirit,through the Holy Spirit, was used both to supply the flesh substance for the holy genealogy in order to create Mary's pure flesh body, which was the generation of heaven,and also the evil genealogy the generation of earth, the gentiles,hidden within Satan's spirit as GOD OF THE WORLD?

    THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE SON WAS ON HIS OWN,BUT FUNCTIONS ONLY SO ,AS A MEDIATOR

    From the other hand Jesus Christ was NOT THE SON'S SPIRIT ONLY, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW HE WAS THE WORD
    THE GODHEAD!

    THEREFORE

    THE FATHER,     JESUS' SPIRIT,

    THE HOLY SPIRIT,     JESUS' SOUL,

    AND THE SON         JESUS' FLESH BODY ONLY! since his spirit became the entire matter!

    SO JESUS' SPIRIT WAS BOTH THE FATHER'S SPIRIT,GOD'S AND HIS OWN, SINCE HE WAS IN HIS SOUL!

    JESUS' SOUL WAS BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT'S,GOD'S AND HIS OWN !

    JESUS' FLESH BODY WAS BOTH THE SON'S SPIRIT, GOD'S AND HIS OWN!

    THEN COMES THE STATEMENT:

    I AM IN THE FATHER, REFERING TO HIS DIVINITY WHICH REMAINED IN THE FATHER!

    AND THE FATHER IS IN ME, REFERING TO HIS FATHER WITHIN HIM AS MAN,  MALE AND FEMALE!  SOUL AND FLESH! SPIRIT AND MATTER!

    SO THE FATHER WAS ALWAYS WITHIN THE SON'S SPIRIT,SIMPLY IN A DIFFERENT FUNCTION.

    IN JESUS CHRIST,THE FATHER FUNCTIONED AS MAN,
    FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!

    IN JESUS CHRIST THE FATHER OWNED A SOUL,
    FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331621
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:10)
    Hi Charles,

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Charles?

    #331634
    carmel
    Participant

    Edj,

    I wanted to add to this:

    THEN COMES THE STATEMENT:

    John 17:10  And all my things are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

    SO

    JESUS SPIRIT WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' SOUL WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' FLESH WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    ALWAYS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN JESUS' SPIRIT IN ORDER FOR THE SON'S SPIRIT TO BE THE MEDIATOR,THROUGHOUT CREATION

    John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth; I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331635
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Will you please answer my question…

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331674
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,09:07)
    Jesus' spirit was 100% His Father's, since He was in his soul!!!

    Jesus'; soul was 100% the Holy Spirit!!!

    Jesus' flesh body was 100% His own ex spirit!!! THE WORD!!!

    Therefore Jesus AS MAN was the God head in flesh form!!!

    Plus at one stage he also had Satan's spirit in hIs soul.


    Our spirits bear witness with God's spirit that we are the sons of God.

    I count at least 2 spirits. The spirit of the person and the spirit of God. And the spirits are connected which is where we become one in spirit.

    So, if the sons of God have a spirit that bears witness with God's spirit, then why does the son of God not have his own spirit too. Is he less than us?

    #331685
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2013,20:02)

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,09:07)
    Jesus' spirit was 100% His Father's, since He was in his soul!!!

    Jesus'; soul was 100% the Holy Spirit!!!

    Jesus' flesh body was 100% His own ex spirit!!! THE WORD!!!

    Therefore Jesus  AS MAN was the God head in flesh form!!!

    Plus at one stage he also had Satan's spirit in hIs soul.


    Our spirits bear witness with God's spirit that we are the sons of God.

    I count at least 2 spirits. The spirit of the person and the spirit of God. And the spirits are connected which is where we become one in spirit.

    So, if the sons of God have a spirit that bears witness with God's spirit, then why does the son of God not have his own spirit too. Is he less than us?


    Hi T8,

    Yes, that is the point; excellently explained!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331745
    carmel
    Participant

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    Will you please answer my question…

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    First of all it is not GOD'S GREEN EARTH YET!

    GOD IS ONLY IN COMMAND THROUGH JESUS!

    TILL THE FATHER SERVES JESUS, AND MAKE JESUS' ENEMIES HIS FOOTSTOOL!

    Edj,

    If hereunder there isn't what you want to know,then I have no other answer!

    John 17:10  And all my things are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

    SO

    JESUS SPIRIT WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' SOUL WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' FLESH WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS WAS THE WORD.

    AND THE WORD WAS THE GODHEAD IN FLESH

    CAN'T YOU SEE IT?

    WHEN JESUS WALKED ON SATAN'S GREEN EARTH, HE WAS THE TRIUNE GOD'S BEING!

    HE WAS, AND IS  COMPOSED OF

    THE FATHER

    THE SON AND

    THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    WHEN WILL YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331746
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,Feb. wrote:

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    the son of God not have his own spirit too

    t8,

    THE SON OF GOD IS THE GODHEAD! THE WORD!

    AND THE GODHEAD IS THE TIRUNE GOD!

    THE FATHER

    THE SON

    THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ALL IN JESUS AS A BEING!

    SO HOW ON EARTH JESUS HAD NO SPIRIT, IF HIS SPIRIT WAS THE FATHER'S

    HOW MANY SPIRITS JESUS SHOULD HAVE IF HE IS A BEING IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN

    WE HAVE ONE SPIRIT, AND ONE SOUL!

    AND JESUS IS THE SAME HE HAD:

    ONE SPIRIT  THE FATHER'S

    ONE SOUL   THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ARE YOU STILL BLIND

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331748
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2013,07:19)

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    Will you please answer my question…

    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

    First of all it is not GOD'S GREEN EARTH YET!

    GOD IS ONLY IN COMMAND THROUGH JESUS!

    TILL THE FATHER SERVES JESUS, AND MAKE JESUS' ENEMIES HIS FOOTSTOOL!

    Edj,

    If hereunder there isn't what you want to know,then I have no other answer!

    John 17:10  And all my things are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

    SO

    JESUS SPIRIT WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' SOUL WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS' FLESH WAS ALSO THE FATHER'S

    JESUS WAS THE WORD.

    AND THE WORD WAS THE GODHEAD IN FLESH

    CAN'T YOU SEE IT?

    WHEN JESUS WALKED ON SATAN'S GREEN EARTH, HE WAS THE TRIUNE GOD'S BEING!

    HE WAS, AND IS  COMPOSED OF

    THE FATHER

    THE SON AND

    THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    WHEN WILL YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    So is your answer “No” then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331932
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Charles, I can confidently say you are teaching false doctrine.

    #332004
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,Feb. wrote:

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     Charles, I can confidently say you are teaching false doctrine.    

    t8,

    FIRST I RESPECT YOU MATURITY!!!

    NOW!

    PIN POINT ONE FALSE AND CONTRADICT ME AND PROVE IT THROUGH SCRIPTURES!

    THE SON OF GOD IS THE GODHEAD! THE WORD!

    AND THE GODHEAD IS THE TIRUNE GOD!

    THE FATHER

    THE SON

    THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ALL IN JESUS AS A BEING!

    SO HOW ON EARTH JESUS HAD NO SPIRIT, IF HIS SPIRIT WAS THE FATHER'S

    HOW MANY SPIRITS JESUS SHOULD HAVE IF HE IS A BEING IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN

    WE HAVE ONE SPIRIT, AND ONE SOUL!

    AND JESUS IS THE SAME HE HAD:

    ONE SPIRIT  THE FATHER'S

    ONE SOUL   THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ARE YOU STILL BLIND

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles  

    #332007
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

    [/quote]

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    Are you suggesting that while Jesus was walking on
    God's green Earth, he didn't have a spirit of his own?

     

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    So is your answer “No” then?

    Edj,

    How many spirits,  not including the soul a being must have???

    to be called a human being???

    Now Jesus, had two as his own spirits!!!

    The spirit of falsehood and the spirit of truth!

    When He died!!!

    He eradicated the spirit of falsehood and acquired the spirit of truth IN ONE INSTANT.

    SO HIS OWN SPIRIT FROM THEN ON IS, AND IT WILL REMAIN SO TILL THE LAST DAY:

    THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH!!!

    SO HERE YOU HAVE NOT A YES OR A NO AS AN ANSWER BUT THE TRUTH!

    AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF TRUTH!!!

    NOW IT 'S UP TO YOU TO CONTRADICT ME THROUGH SCRIPTURES!!! since you consider yourself an expert in understanding scriopture!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #332013
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    So your answer is “No” then, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332015
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2013,17:13)
    Edj,

    NOW IT 'S UP TO YOU TO CONTRADICT ME THROUGH SCRIPTURES!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    At this point I'm still trying to figure out what you believe,
    and if you would answer my questions, it would help immensely.
    What I do with that information might not be at all what you expect.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332017
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2013,11:56)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2013,10:36)


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     Charles, I can confidently say you are teaching false doctrine.    

    t8,

    FIRST I RESPECT YOU MATURITY!!!

    NOW!

    PIN POINT ONE FALSE AND CONTRADICT ME AND PROVE IT THROUGH SCRIPTURES!

    THE SON OF GOD IS THE GODHEAD! THE WORD!

    AND THE GODHEAD IS THE TIRUNE GOD!

    THE FATHER

    THE SON

    THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ALL IN JESUS AS A BEING!

    SO HOW ON EARTH JESUS HAD NO SPIRIT, IF HIS SPIRIT WAS THE FATHER'S

    HOW MANY SPIRITS JESUS SHOULD HAVE IF HE IS A BEING IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN

    WE HAVE ONE SPIRIT, AND ONE SOUL!

    AND JESUS IS THE SAME HE HAD:

    ONE SPIRIT  THE FATHER'S

    ONE SOUL   THE HOLY SPIRIT

    ARE YOU STILL BLIND

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles  


    Charles

    Why is it you want alway others to prove you wrong ???

    Do you not read the scriptures it his you that has to be making sure that you have God,s truth, we all have that personal responsibility to do so ,if in that proccess we let false doctrines in our understanding we will have to pay for it,

    If you are convinced in your error ,no men can help you ,until you see it
    This is why it always end up in vain discussions ,going no were,
    Defending the obvious  wrong, you should pray and look at what is scrtures and what is of men in you understanding,this could help you ,

    Many kill the truth as they see it , for some reason or another

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