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Quote (carmel @ Jan. 28 2013,02:06) Edj, Quote who is composed of
“The Spirit of Christ”NO, THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IS THE FRUIT BY THE HOLY GHOST FROM THE FATHER,WHO CONCEIVED MARY,EX WORD'S SPIRIT,THE SON'S,AND PRODUCED
JESUS' FLESH SUBSTANCE, OBVIOUS FROM MARY,
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Remember Jesus is the one using the term “Son of God”.
You do understand the meaning of the term “Son”, right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Son of man” means his mother was of Mankind.
“Son of God” means his father was of Godkind.
Note: I made up the term “Godkind” for your understanding.2) Jesus could not be 100% human, since God(HolySpirit) was his father.
Edj,
You should pay MORE ATTENTION!!!
Jesus was born in all things like his brethren, SO IF HIS BETHREN WAS BORN 100% HUMAN, JESUS IS ALSO 100% HUMAN, FROM HIS 100% HUMAN MOTHER HIS OWN EX SPIRIT.
I REPEAT:
THE 100% WORD,BECAME 100% FLESH. NOT MAN FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT TO BE MAN HE MUST HAVE A SOUL SO:
HIS SOUL IS THE 100% HOLY GHOST WHO CONCEIVED MARY,THE EX WORD WHO WAS MADE 100% FLESH.
ALSO TO BE A MAN, A SPIRIT MUST ABIDE WITHIN HIS SOUL!
AND THE SPIRIT OF JESUS WAS 100% GOD'S SPIRIT!!!
CLEAR??
THEREFORE:
JESUS WHEN HE WAS BORN,WAS COMPOSED:
100% GOD'S FLESH THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE WORD
100% GOD'S SOUL THE HOLY GHOST
100% GOD'S SPIRIT THE FATHER
PLUS BELEIVE IT OR NOT!!!
100% SATAN'S SPIRIT IN HIS SOUL
JESUS WAS 400 % SUBSTANCES
ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM, ALL FOR HIM!!!
THOSE FOUR SPIRITS REPRESENT THE ENTIRE KINGDOM
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him.
17 And he is before all, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he may hold the primacy:
19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell;
BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED, ALL THINGS WERE IN THE FATHER
BUT THE FATHER CREATED ALL IN HIM AS A MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND HIS CREATURES IN ORDER TO RECONCILE ALL ONTO HIMSELF NO MATTER WHAT INCLUDING SATAN HIMSLEF
17 And he is before all, and by him all things consist.
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw
ALL THINGS
to myself.
OK???
NOTHING STANDS WITHOUT JESUS' SPIRIT
NOTHING EXISTS WITHOUT JESUS' SPIRIT
NOTHING GOES TO THE FATHER WITHOUT JESUS' SPIRIT.
HE IS THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE NO MATTER WHAT !!!
19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell;
Peace and love in Jesus FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Jan. 29 2013,08:19) Edj, You should pay MORE ATTENTION!!!
AND THE SPIRIT OF JESUS WAS 100% GOD'S SPIRIT!!!
CLEAR??
Charles
Hi Charles,Clear, No. Are you suggesting that
Jesus did not have a spirit of his own?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Clear, No. Are you suggesting that
Jesus did not have a spirit of his own?Edj
Jesus' spirit was 100% His Father's, since He was in his soul!!!
Jesus'; soul was 100% the Holy Spirit!!!
Jesus' flesh body was 100% His own ex spirit!!! THE WORD!!!
Therefore Jesus AS MAN was the God head in flesh form!!!
Plus at one stage he also had Satan's spirit in hIs soul.
Now Edj,
If Jesus was in all things like His brethren, and His brethren were 100 % human, how on earth Jesus is inferior to His brethren BY 50%
ANSWER !
Now answer this a s well!
Is Jesus totally composed from God's spirit, has He anything from this world???
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote JESUS WAS 400 % SUBSTANCES Edj,
Define this:
16 For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by him and in him
19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell;
Is there anything according to you that it is not within Jesus' spirit???
WHAT IN HIM …….ALL FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL MEAN???
WHAT PERCENTAGE IS ALL FULLNESS
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,06:07) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,09:09)
Clear, No. Are you suggesting that
Jesus did not have a spirit of his own?Edj
Jesus' spirit was 100% His Father's, since He was in his soul!!!
Jesus'; soul was 100% the Holy Spirit!!!
Jesus' flesh body was 100% His own ex spirit!!! THE WORD!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Please speak plainly… is that a “Yes” or a “No”?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,06:17) Quote JESUS WAS 400 % SUBSTANCES
Edj,Define this:
16 For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by him and in him
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles, sure.Colossians 1:16-17 is about “The Father”.
The subject starts back in verse 12.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Please speak plainly… is that a “Yes” or a “No”? YES ENTIRELY:
SPIRIT, SOUL, AND BODY
THE GODHEAD IS ALL SPIRIT
THE GODHEAD IS JESUS AS A PERSON !!!
THEREFORE HIS FLESH WAS ALSO HIS EX SPIRIT
HIS FLESH IS NOT OF THE EARTH!
OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T BE DIVINE.
HE MUST BE COMPOSED TOTALLY OF GOD!!!
REFLECT:
John 14:30 I will not now speak many things with you. For the prince of this world cometh,
and in me he hath not any thing
IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL:
JESUS WAS COMPOSED TOTALLY OF GOD.
HE HAD NOTHING OF THIS WORLD, WHICH WAS SATAN'S SUBSTANCE UP TO JESUS TIME!!!
SO EVEN HIS OWN FLESH BODY WAS OF GOD. JESUS'SPIRIT.
THE WORD(JESUS'SPIRIT WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH THE FATHER) WAS MADE FLESH!
NOW YOU ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE WORD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT ONLY!
BUT IN ACTUAL FACT THE WORD IS JESUS' SPIRIT
PLUS:
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM:
PLUS:
THE FATHER IN THE HOLY SPIRIT
THE TRIUNE GOD ALL IN JESUS'SPIRIT
ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM!!!
BEFORE CREATION IT WAS THE OPPOSITE:
THE FATHER HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM,AND JESUS' SPIRIT WAS IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.
THE WORD ( COMPOSED OF THE THREE SPIRITS OF GOD WITHIN JESUS'SPIRIT)WAS WITH GOD (OBVIOUS) AND THE WORD WAS GOD!!!( BUT IN JESUS' SPIRIT INSTEAD IN THE FATHER'S
IN ORDER TO BE THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN THE FATHER AND HIS CREATURES!
SO BETWEEN THE FATHER AND THE SON THERE WAS ALWAYS THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,17:08) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2013,13:47) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,09:09)
Clear, No. Are you suggesting that
Jesus did not have a spirit of his own?
Please speak plainly… is that a “Yes” or a “No”?
YES ENTIRELY:Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus own spirit?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Colossians 1:16-17 is about “The Father”. Edj,
Yes you are right, BUT ONLY SINCE JESUS IS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS GOD!!!
NOW SERIOUSLY READ AND REFLECT, AND DON'T LET YOUR CORRUPTED FLESH RULE YOU!
Colossians1: 12 Giving thanks to God the Father, who hath made us worthy to be partakers of the lot of the saints in light: ABOUT THE FATHER
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, REFERENCE TO JESUS, THE WORD!14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins; TO JESUS THE WORD!
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: TO JESUS THE WORD
16 For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him. TO JESUS THE WORD
17 And he is before all, and by him all things consist. TO JESUS THE WORD
18 And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he may hold the primacy: TO JESUS THE WORD
19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell; IN JESUS THE WORD
20 And through him to reconcile all things unto himself, making peace through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and the things that are in heaven.TO JESUS THE WORD
Peace and love in Jesus THE WORD!!!
Charles
Hi Charles,
“God The Father” is the “Subject” in Col.1:12-20 and Jesus is the Object; English 101.
I will take the liberty to insert both the subject and object into the text for 'your' understanding.
Normally I remove the numbers, but for explanation purposes, my “Free Will” will leave them in for you.
There is no inconsistencies with the rest of “The Bible” viewing Col.1:12-20 in the light of my view. (Eph.5:13)Col.1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet
to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Romans 8:17):
13: Who (YHVH our God) hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son(switching to object):
14: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15: Who(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God(YHVH), the firstborn of every creature:
16: For by him(YHVH)(switching back to the subject) were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him(YHVH), and for him(YHVH):
17: And he(YHVH) is before all things, and by him(YHVH) all things consist.
18: And he(Jesus)(switching back to the object) is the head of the body, the church:
who is the beginning(the preeminence of God), the firstborn from the dead (Romans 1:4);
that in all things he(Jesus) might have the preeminence(over all his brethren).
19: For it pleased the Father that in him(Jesus) should all fulness dwell;
20: And, having made peace through the blood of his(Jesus) cross,
by him(YHVH) to reconcile all things unto himself(2Cor.5:18);
by him, whether things in earth, or things in heaven.Lets now look at verse 16 and verse 17 with greater scrutiny…
16: For by him(YHVH) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (Rev.4:11)Would 'you' have us to believe Jesus (falsely) created these things “in Heaven”…
1. God's throne
2. God's dominion
3. God's principality
4. God's power
5. God himselfCan you not see the flaw in 'your' assertion?
Now let's take a closer look at verse 17…
17: And he(YHVH) is before all things, and by him(YHVH) all things consist.
Would 'you' have us to believe Jesus (falsely) is before YHVH himself?
Would 'you' have us to believe by Jesus (falsely) all things consist?
How can you reconcile this belief without saying Jesus is God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2013,17:15) Quote (carmel @ Jan. 30 2013,17:08) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2013,13:47) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,09:09)
Clear, No. Are you suggesting that
Jesus did not have a spirit of his own?
Please speak plainly… is that a “Yes” or a “No”?
YES ENTIRELY:Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus own spirit?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Will you please answer my question?Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote For by him(YHVH)(switching back to the subject) were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him(YHVH), and for him(YHVH):
Edj,
THE SUBJECT IS THE WORD, JESUS, GODMAN!
THE TRIUNE GOD IN FLESH!
You could switch the way you like!!!
From 14 downwards it 's all to the WORD, JESUS, GODMAN
Now read hereunder;
Hebrews 1:10And: Thou in the beginning, O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.
THE ABOVE IS A REFERENCE TO THE WORD, JESUS.
IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH:
and the works of thy hands are the heavens
NOTICE HE PLURAL HEAVENS!!!
So
For by him THE WORD, GOD, JESUS AS A SPIRIT, were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:IT IS THE SON'S KINGDOM, THAT'S WHY FOR HIM!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Feb. 03 2013,01:54) Edj, Now read hereunder;
Hebrews 1:10And: Thou in the beginning, O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.
THE ABOVE IS A REFERENCE TO THE WORD, JESUS.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles: No, it's a reference to his daddy.“THOU of old (YHVH) hast laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
They shall perish, but THOU (YHVH) shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment;
as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But THOU (YHVH)
art the same, and thy years shall have no end.” (Psalms 102:25-27)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus own spirit?
Edj,
I cannot understand how you are not able to conclude yourself :
WHO WAS JESUS' SPIRIT SINCE:
JESUS WAS THE WORD MADE FLESH!
JESUS WAS THE GODHEAD IN FLESH!
SO JESUS WAS NOT JUST ONE SPIRIT!
BUT THREE SPIRITS IN ONE!
THE FATHER : JESUS' SPIRIT HIS OWN SINCE HE WAS THE GODHEAD, THE WORD!
THE HOLY SPIRIT: JESUS' SOUL HIS OWN SINCE HE WAS THE GODHEAD, THE WORD!
THE SON: JESUS' FLESH SUBSTANCE HIS OWN SINCE HE WAS THE GODHEAD, THE WORD.
SO JESUS IS NOT JUST THE SON'S SPIRIT OK???
YOU ,LIKE ALL OF US HUMANS:
HAVE A FLESH BODY, YOUR OWN .CORRUPTED MORTAL
YOU HAVE A SOUL, YOUR OWN. CORRUPTED
YOU HAVE A SPIRIT, YOUR OWN. CORRUPTED
THROUGH THE WORD PROCESS, JESUS REDEMPTION:
ON THE LAST DAY YOUR THREE GRADUAL SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCES WOULD UNITE AND BECOME ONE SUBSTANCE, BUT NOT UNLESS THEY ARE ALL PERFECT, LIKE THE FATHER IS PERFECT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Feb. 04 2013,00:27) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,17:53) Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit?
Edj,I cannot understand how you are not able to conclude yourself :
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Is that a “Yes” then?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2013,03:27) [/quote] Ed wrote:Quote Hi Charles: No, it's a reference to his daddy. Edj,
Hebrews 1: 2 In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLD SO THE SON'S SPIRIT IS THE ENTIRE MATTER. MOTHER EARTH.
IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH:
whom he
GOD
hath appointed heir
TO THE WORD, JESUS ,GODMAN.
of all things, WHY OF ALL THINGS? OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE GODHEAD WAS ALL IN HIM!!!
ALL CREATION IS THE SON'S SPIRIT. THE SON'S KINGDOM. GOD'S KINGDOM!!!
by whom THE WORD AS A SPIRITalso he made the world.
NOTICE THE SUBJECT OF THIS CHAPTER IS EQUALLY BOTH FOR THE FATHER AND THE SON, SINCE THE SON INHERITED ALL THINGS, INCLUDING ALL THE FATHER'S ATTRIBUTES INCLUDING THE CREATION POWER!!!
all yours are mine, and mine are yours.
SO MENTIONING THE FATHER IS IN THE SAME TIME MENTIONING THE WORD, GOD,JESUS CHRIST.
THE SON OF GOD.THE FLESH SUBSTANCE OF GOD
THEREFORE THE FATHER WITHIN THE HOLY SPIRIT ,AND BOTH OF THEM IN THE SON'S SPIRIT AS ONE SPIRIT, THEREFORE :MEDIATOR,
THEREFORE THE WORD, CREATED ALL!
ALL WAS CREATED BY THE WORD, GOD
IN THE WORD, GOD
AND FOR THE WORD! GOD
THEN THE WORD: GOD
THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE TRIUNE GOD, SINCE THEY WERE ALL IN HIM!!!THE GODHEAD ALSO WAS MADE FLESH TO INHERIT ALL!
SO:
Quote “THOU of old (YHVH) hast laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
They shall perish, but THOU (YHVH) shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment;
as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But THOU (YHVH)
art the same, and thy years shall have no end.” (Psalms 102:25-27)ALL THE ABOVE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS BOTH A REFERENCE TO THE FATHER, WHO WAS WITHIN THE WORD CREATING ALLAND ALSO A PROPHECY AND A REFERENCE TO THE WORD ITSELF WHICH WAS TO COME AS JESUS CHRIST IN ORDER TO REVEAL THE FATHER IN HIS FULLNESS!
ALL THE OLD TESTAMENT IS A REFERENCE TO THE MESSIAH, IT WAS PROCLAIMED,AND WRITTEN PURPOSELY SO, SINCE ADAM's sin.
AND IT WAS ALL FULLFILLED BY THE WORD, JESUS CHRIST AS
GODMAN!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2013,00:30) Quote (carmel @ Feb. 04 2013,00:27) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,17:53) Would you say the “spirit of Christ” was Jesus' own spirit?
Edj,I cannot understand how you are not able to conclude yourself :
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Is that a “Yes” then?
Edj
But always in relation to JESUS AS
THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
GOD IN FLESH!
GODMAN!
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