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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 22 2010,07:38) Hi ED,
It seems to be your own opinions you are giving witness to.
Whom do you serve?
Hi Nick,It may seem that way to you, but that doesn't make it so.
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2010,12:45) Hi ED,
If this opinion did not arise from foundational scriptural revalation what is your source?
Hi Nick,I have illustrated to you many times it's source is “The Bible”,
Not the through the systems of religion and traditions of men.Can it be taken that there is no more to say concerning the thread topic?
Open house, so to speak?
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Hi All,
Lam.1:11,14 All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things for
meat to relieve the soul: see, O LORD, and consider; for 'i am' become vile. 14 The yoke of my
transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath
made my strength to fall, the Lord hath delivered me into their hands, 'i am' not able to rise up.Psalm 88:4-5 'i am' counted with them that go down into the pit (Isaiah 14:15):
'i am' as a man that hath no strength (Isaiah 14:19-29): Free among the dead, like the
slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2010,06:13) Hi ED,
Too weak a foundation to build anything sound on.
Hi Nick,All the Posts I made concerning the 'i am' are all on topic relative to Lucifer.
Since this point is new to you, it is natural for you to resist this “Bible Truth”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2010,15:02) Hi ED,
This lucifer has one scriptural reference and yet you hopefully build on it??
Hi Nick,He is the topic in many places in “The Bible”, are you unaware of this?
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
The word appears once in scripture yet you seem to find it, though unwritten, in many places.
What gives?Hi Nick,
Isaiah 14:12,15 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! (Rev.12:9)
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (Isaiah 14:10)
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. (Psalm 88:4-5)
Ezek.28:8-9 They shall bring thee (O Lucifer) down to the pit, (Rev.21:1-3)
and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, 'i am God' (2 Thess. 2:4)?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
We seem to have seen these before but only one verse says lucifer.
One verse theologies generally are deceptions.To All in Heaven(.net),
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt
my throne(Psalm 94:20) above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the
mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (Psalm 48:2)
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.Ezekiel 28:2 Wilt thou(Lucifer) yet say before (Ed J)him that slayeth thee(great i am), 'i am God'? (2 Thess. 2:8)
but thou(great i am) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of (Ed J)him that slayeth thee. (1Thes.4:8)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Isaiah 45:11-15)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד (AKJV Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-26)
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To All in Heaven(.net),Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt
my throne(Psalm 94:20) above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the
mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (Psalm 48:2)
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.Ezekiel 28:9 Wilt thou(Lucifer) yet say before (Ed J)him that slayeth thee(great i am), 'i am God'? (2 Thess. 2:8)
but thou(great i am) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of (Ed J)him that slayeth thee. (1Thes.4:8)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Isaiah 45:11-15)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד (AKJV Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-26)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ………..The prophesy was sent to the King of Babylon who was a MAN. He was a Man not some elusive mystical creature going around jumping in and out of People and taking control of them at his own will. Your lucifer, satan, then is just a suposition and has not basis in scripture anywhere, IMO
peace and love………………………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 19 2011,12:51) EDJ………..The prophesy was sent to the King of Babylon who was a MAN. He was a Man not some elusive mystical creature going around jumping in and out of People and taking control of them at his own will. Your lucifer, satan, then is just a suposition and has not basis in scripture anywhere, IMO peace and love………………………………………….gene
Hi Gene,What do you say about Rev.17:5: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (Revelation 17:1-5)This ties into both Isaiah 14:12-15 and Isaiah 14:4-10, pointing to Ezekiel 28:13-18!
Isaiah 14:12-15 How art thou fallen from heaven (Luke 10:18), O Lucifer(/Satan) ,
son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground (Ezekiel 18:13-16), which didst
weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt
my throne (Psalm 94:20) above the stars of God: I (Lucifer) will sit also upon the mount of the
congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be
like the most High. Yet thou (Lucifer) shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.Isaiah 14:4-10 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say,
How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! The LORD hath broken the staff of
the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual
stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth
is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the
cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. Hell from
beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming (Rev.13:1-3): it stirreth up the dead
for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the
kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become
weak as we? art thou become like unto us?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org …(Eccl.9:12-16)EDJ…………Go to Daniel and read where Babylon was the First of the Great Kingdoms on the earth it ruled the complete earth over all other kingdoms and then came the Persians and then then Greeks and then the Romans and so forth these are all progressive Kingdoms in History down to our very time,when God will destory it completely. They are Real kingdoms that had there start in the Great Kingdom of Babylon (the head of Gold) and lessor kingdom came from that down to the present day , This image in Daniel show (REAL) Kingdoms ruled BY REAL KINGS < Not some elusive Spook Going around ruling them. Scripture say it is GOD that Rules in the Kingdoms of Men, and He give them to whom ever HE Choses, not some elusive Satan Being jumping in and out of anyone taking control of them. EDJ there is NO LUCIFER SATAN BEING. The REAL King of Babylon was the Rising Star or(Lucifer) and the prophesy was sent to the REAL KING who exulted himself and GOD cut him Down and Showed him as the Man he was.
Mystery Babylon the Great is what the whole earths Kingdoms and Religions are. They work through different kinds of MYSTERIES as you are putting forth in YOUR SATAN is LUCIFER thing, that is also part of “MYSTERY” Religious TEACHINGS>Specially when GOD shows Him (the king of Babylon) to Be a MAN , not some elusive invisible being of some kind. Your forcing the text and putting a “spiritual” spin on them to fit your beliefs Can't you see that (IS) what MYSTERY RELIGION IS ALL ABOUT?. There are NO Devils and Demon going around jumping in and out of People. The Satan's (adversaries) are the People themselves and the Kings of the earth also and their kingdoms. Not some invisible control, being accomplished by a Spirit Being called Satan or Lucifer. WE all can be a Satan or Devil at times Just as PETER was , when Jesus rebuked Him, and the Pharisees were also and Judas Jesus said was a DEVIL, not some elusive unseen (BEING) of Some KIND. Come out of that MYSTERY RELIGION and be sober minded Brother. IMO
peace and Love to you and yours……………………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 20 2011,01:27) EDJ…………Go to Daniel and read where Babylon was the First of the Great Kingdoms on the earth it ruled the complete earth over all other kingdoms and then came the Persians and then then Greeks and then the Romans and so forth these are all progressive Kingdoms in History down to our very time,when God will destory it completely. They are Real kingdoms that had there start in the Great Kingdom of Babylon (the head of Gold) and lessor kingdom came from that down to the present day , This image in Daniel show (REAL) Kingdoms ruled BY REAL KINGS < Not some elusive Spook Going around ruling them. Scripture say it is GOD that Rules in the Kingdoms of Men, and He give them to whom ever HE Choses, not some elusive Satan Being jumping in and out of anyone taking control of them. EDJ there is NO LUCIFER SATAN BEING. The REAL King of Babylon was the Rising Star or(Lucifer) and the prophesy was sent to the REAL KING who exulted himself and GOD cut him Down and Showed him as the Man he was. Mystery Babylon the Great is what the whole earths Kingdoms and Religions are. They work through different kinds of MYSTERIES as you are putting forth in YOUR SATAN is LUCIFER thing, that is also part of “MYSTERY” Religious TEACHINGS>Specially when GOD shows Him (the king of Babylon) to Be a MAN , not some elusive invisible being of some kind. Your forcing the text and putting a “spiritual” spin on them to fit your beliefs Can't you see that (IS) what MYSTERY RELIGION IS ALL ABOUT?. There are NO Devils and Demon going around jumping in and out of People. The Satan's (adversaries) are the People themselves and the Kings of the earth also and their kingdoms. Not some invisible control, being accomplished by a Spirit Being called Satan or Lucifer. WE all can be a Satan or Devil at times Just as PETER was , when Jesus rebuked Him, and the Pharisees were also and Judas Jesus said was a DEVIL, not some elusive unseen (BEING) of Some KIND. Come out of that MYSTERY RELIGION and be sober minded Brother. IMO
peace and Love to you and yours……………………………………………gene
Gene! I find it dangerous to ignore that Satan is real.Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
God lets Job be tested by Satan….
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath [is] in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
And Jesus too…
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 20:7 ¶ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
In the Millennium Satan will be chained , but after that He will be loosed to deceive many…..
Peace and Love Irene
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