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Quote (karmarie @ July 14 2010,17:39) `Thou dost not take up the name of Jehovah thy God for a vain thing, for Jehovah acquitteth not him who taketh up His name for a vain thing.
Hi Karmarie,People should stop worshiping themselves a false 'i am' idol god!
Deut 29:17-19 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols,
wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:) Lest there
should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart
turneth away this day from the LORD (YHVH) our God, to go and serve
the of these nations; lest there should be among you a root
(Revelation 22:16) that beareth gall and wormwood (Revelation 8:8-11);
And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless
himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination
of mine heart (Isaiah 5:18-21), to add drunkenness (Psalm 107:26-27) to thirst:God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2010,18:50) Hi ED,
Obsessing about your dogmas does not raise much interest here.
Hi Nick,So now 'you' speak for everybody?
Seems this thread is one of the most active.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 14 2010,16:49) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2010,10:15) ED…………If someone ask a group of people you were in is ED Here? if you responded yes “I AM” and if they said Where and Yous said Here “I AM”, would that make you a Satan?, Man Get a Grip before you go completely over the Cliff if you haven't all Ready brother. peace and love…………………..gene
Hi Gene,John 15:18-2 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of
the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord.
If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept
my saying, they will keep yours also.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J…………..What does that response have to do with anything i posted? Can't you simply answer the question i ask you.Have you elevated yourself over others here, you seem to think you have brother. And assembling all kinds of doctrines and systems of codifying them to fit you assumptions is not to good brother. IMO
peace and love…………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2010,23:50) Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2010,16:49) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2010,10:15) ED…………If someone ask a group of people you were in is ED Here? if you responded yes “I AM” and if they said Where and Yous said Here “I AM”, would that make you a Satan?, Man Get a Grip before you go completely over the Cliff if you haven't all Ready brother. peace and love…………………..gene
Hi Gene,John 15:18-2 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of
the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord.
If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept
my saying, they will keep yours also.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J…………..What does that response have to do with anything i posted? Can't you simply answer the question i ask you.Have you elevated yourself over others here, you seem to think you have brother. And assembling all kinds of doctrines and systems of codifying them to fit you assumptions is not to good brother. IMO
peace and love…………………..gene
Hi Gene,Since you discount “Bible Truth”, should 'your attacks' really be taken seriously?
The question 'you' previously posed was biased, loaded, and of no value whatsoever.
Now accusations of assembling all kinds of doctrines? (James 1:23-24 / Psalm 18:25-27)Doctrines assembled by Gene Balthrop …
1. No (according to Gene) “Free Will”? (1Cor.9:17-19 / Heb.10:26)
2. No (according to Gene) “Preexistence”? (Jeremiah 1:5 / John 15:27)
3. Satan (according to Gene) doesn't really exist? (1Cor.5:5 / 1Timothy 1:20 )
4. No divinity (according to Gene) to Jesus whatsoever? (Matt.1:18,20 / Luke 1:35)
5. For your kind (according to Gene) is only 'an influenced will'? (No Scripture whatsoever?)Romans 8:16-17 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs;
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J………….Still i base what i believe on the Word of GOD and Post the quoted scriptures needed. Here is a good example of your tactics of misunderstandings, I ask you many times to produce (ONE) scripture that say we have a FREE WILL (IN) US Just ONE and you have yet to produce ANY Scripture no not even (ONE) But what You do is respond with this I Cor 9:17_19 ? Heb 10:26, and this is supposed to make it (APPEAR) as if you are answering the question put forth when in Fact Neither scripture says anything about a Man Having a “FREE” WILL (IN) HIM. You are a pro at twisting scriptures to meet you Ideologies . Common sense should tell you that the very word (WILL) implies (INFLUENCE) and DESIRES , that should be a no brainier for you and others. The very word “FREE” Attached to the word WILL is a OXYMORON.
You say i post no scriptures to support my convictions and I disagree with You , I have quoted many scriptures to defend my positions. It is you failure to acknowledge them that is the problem Here , not my posting of them. Like where i has posted “It is God who works (IN) us (BOTH) to WILL and do of HIS good Pleasure.” and again “IT is (NOT) withing a Man to direct HIS PATHS< And again "Jesus came to set the captives FREE" People are held captive by there thinking as YOU ARE, and are far from Having a "FREE" WILL (IN) them.
Where did i say A Satan does not exist what i said was there is not a (BEING) called Satan or as you believe a Lucifier going around jumping in and out of People. As you and others falsely suppose. Again you try to ridicule a person by saying (“according to Gene”) I could say the same about you right.
According to ED J………….Number so and so equal GOD and Number such and Such means Lord and on and on it goes But there is NO scripture support for any of you numbering system.
According to ED J…………. Lucifier is this or that , when NO Scripture say He is.
According to ED J Lucifier is not the King of Babylon that Prophesy was sent to it was some mysterious being He later term SATAN.
Then you go on and Quote Romans 8:16-17, as if the gives you some device authority and adherence of self grandeur. ED J all you flack means nothing Here at this site , produce you Proof and answer the question put to you from scripture not you own (ASSUMED) understandings. Which are far from the truth no matter how many scripture you try to direct to yourself glory.
peace and love…………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2010,00:34) ED J………….Still i base what i believe on the Word of GOD and Post the quoted scriptures needed. Here is a good example of your tactics of misunderstandings, I ask you many times to produce (ONE) scripture that say we have a FREE WILL (IN) US Just ONE and you have yet to produce ANY Scripture no not even (ONE) But what You do is respond with this I Cor 9:17_19 ? Heb 10:26, and this is supposed to make it (APPEAR) as if you are answering the question put forth when in Fact Neither scripture says anything about a Man Having a “FREE” WILL (IN) HIM. You are a pro at twisting scriptures to meet you Ideologies . Common sense should tell you that the very word (WILL) implies (INFLUENCE) and DESIRES , that should be a no brainier for you and others. The very word “FREE” Attached to the word WILL is a OXYMORON. You say i post no scriptures to support my convictions and I disagree with You , I have quoted many scriptures to defend my positions. It is you failure to acknowledge them that is the problem Here , not my posting of them. Like where i has posted “It is God who works (IN) us (BOTH) to WILL and do of HIS good Pleasure.” and again “IT is (NOT) withing a Man to direct HIS PATHS< And again "Jesus came to set the captives FREE" People are held captive by there thinking as YOU ARE, and are far from Having a "FREE" WILL (IN) them.
Where did i say A Satan does not exist what i said was there is not a (BEING) called Satan or as you believe a Lucifier going around jumping in and out of People. As you and others falsely suppose. Again you try to ridicule a person by saying (“according to Gene”) I could say the same about you right.
According to ED J………….Number so and so equal GOD and Number such and Such means Lord and on and on it goes But there is NO scripture support for any of you numbering system.
According to ED J…………. Lucifier is this or that , when NO Scripture say He is.
According to ED J Lucifier is not the King of Babylon that Prophesy was sent to it was some mysterious being He later term SATAN.
Then you go on and Quote Romans 8:16-17, as if the gives you some device authority and adherence of self grandeur. ED J all you flack means nothing Here at this site , produce you Proof and answer the question put to you from scripture not you own (ASSUMED) understandings. Which are far from the truth no matter how many scripture you try to direct to yourself glory.
peace and love…………………………gene
Hi Gene,I'm glad you now see 'your original question' was worthless based on your lack of persuit!
Everyone here bases what they believe on the word of God,
what makes you 'think' you are more special than anyone else?
I present my view as does everyone here, it's God's Job to convince
the reader what to believe (“Free Will”) from the inside of themselves.
I have Posted many Scriptures starting here about man's “Free Will”, but
'you' continue turned a blind eye to them out of 'your' “Free Will” to do so!Again, thanks Gene for helping me PROVE these points here to all the readers!
Ed J (Also Click here)
ED J…………You proved nothing but your ignorance and lack of any scripture support .You start Here tactics fails again. Because you can't even Produce (ON) Scripture that say we Have a “FREE” WILL (IN) Us no matter how much you try to lie about it and ridicule, you offer not (ONE) Scripture If you have that scripture Please Post Just that (ONE) that say we have this “FREE” WILL (IN) US. Another thing You don't even have (ONE) Scripture that says Lucifier is Satan . If So produce it. Just ONE will be sufficient. Like many your assumptions have (NO) scriptural support so you design you own system of beliefs and present them as if you know what you are talking about here. But produce no proof of any of them. Just another preacher trying to get a following and positioning himself with great understandings , which in fact is pure folly. IMO
peace and love ………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,14:21) ED J…………You proved nothing but your ignorance and lack of any scripture support .You start Here tactics fails again. Because you can't even Produce (ON) Scripture that say we Have a “FREE” WILL (IN) Us no matter how much you try to lie about it and ridicule, you offer not (ONE) Scripture If you have that scripture Please Post Just that (ONE) that say we have this “FREE” WILL (IN) US. Another thing You don't even have (ONE) Scripture that says Lucifier is Satan . If So produce it. Just ONE will be sufficient. Like many your assumptions have (NO) scriptural support so you design you own system of beliefs and present them as if you know what you are talking about here. But produce no proof of any of them. Just another preacher trying to get a following and positioning himself with great understandings , which in fact is pure folly. IMO peace and love ………………………….gene
Hi Gene,Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEG J………So to you when a man gives a “FREEWILL” OFFERING that equals Him having a FREE WILL (IN) HIM Right , no wounder you can't seem to understand what scripture is saying (lookup the word ) Free Will used there and you will find it means a voluntary offering and Has nothing to Do with the Fact that a man has a “FREE WILL” operating (IN) Him ,you forcing the text to means that by your false assumptions. IMO
Still Waiting for (ONE) Scripture that say Man has a “FREEWILL” (IN) HIM. If you can't find at least be man enough to admit it for a Change.
peace and love…………………………..gnee
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,14:45) EG J………So to you when a man gives a “FREEWILL” OFFERING that equals Him having a FREE WILL (IN) HIM Right , no wounder you can't seem to understand what scripture is saying (lookup the word ) Free Will used there and you will find it means a voluntary offering and Has nothing to Do with the Fact that a man has a “FREE WILL” operating (IN) Him ,you forcing the text to means that by your false assumptions. IMO Still Waiting for (ONE) Scripture that say Man has a “FREEWILL” (IN) HIM. If you can't find at least be man enough to admit it for a Change.
peace and love…………………………..gnee
Hi Gene,Are you saying “Free Will” isn't “Free Will”?
To All,
Isaiah 10:12-14 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed
his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart
of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks. For he saith, By the strength of my hand
I have done it, and by my wisdom; for 'i am prudent': and I have removed the bounds of the people,
and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man: And my hand
hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered
all the earth (Isaiah 14:24-27); and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.
(Revelation 16:16)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J…………If you care to look up the wording FREE WILL used there you will find the Hebrew is not FREE WILL but voluntary offering. It has nothing to do with Us having a Will the is (FREE) (IN) US. That is just you assumptions that that is what that means.
peace and love………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 21 2010,01:38) ED J…………If you care to look up the wording FREE WILL used there you will find the Hebrew is not FREE WILL but voluntary offering. It has nothing to do with Us having a Will the is (FREE) (IN) US. That is just you assumptions that that is what that means. peace and love………………………….gene
Hi Gene,Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shall keep them, O LORD(YHVH), thou shall preserve them(in The AKJV Bible) from this generation forever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips “and another tongue” will (That is: in English) “HE” speak to this people.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,03:59) Are any of these last posts anything to do with 'Lucifers Title'? [Moderator]
Hi JustAskin,Thanks for helping to keep this very important thread on track!
This is more about what the king of Assyria says in defiance of YHVH!
2 Kings 19:22-23 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against
whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against
the Holy One of Israel. By the messengers thou hast reproached the Lord, and hast said,
With the multitude of my chariots 'i am' come up to the height of the mountains (Zechariah 6:2-8),
to the sides of Lebanon, and will cut down the tall cedar trees thereof, and the choice fir trees thereof:
and I will enter into the lodgings of his borders, and into the forest of his Carmel. (Haggai 2:22 / Rev.2:6-8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,20:44) Hi ED,
If this is all the evidence you offer it is nothing without your opinion.
Hi Nick,Take the time to read the references! (1Cor.2:10-11)
Nahum 1:14 …I kill, and I make alive; (Mark 8:29-33)
Gal.2:20 'i am' crucified [†] with Christ: (Is.14:19-22)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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