What is your confession regarding Jesus

Many confess that Jesus Christ is God and part of the Trinity.

Q: So who in scripture also confessed that? A: No one.

Ancient diagram of the Trinity

Instead:

Peter confessed that Jesus Christ was the son of God and the messiah.

Paul confessed that there was one God the Father and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus confessed that eternal life was to know the only true God and Jesus Christ who the one true God sent.

The Father confessed that Jesus is his beloved son.

What is the true confession and how does that compare to your confession.
Who is Jesus really.

Can he be the messiah, son of God, and Lord, and yet also be God at the same time? Is he really the son of himself?

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April 30, 2014 at 7:30 am#790869
DavidL
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(long boring sigh)…so this is it..!! Some people want to understand, but you are only interested in expounding your own theories…
April 30, 2014 at 8:15 am#790870
Admin
Keymaster
I am expounding Jesus Christ’s words. Jesus said, “eternal life is this, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”. Not my theory. Jesus own words instead. Do you trust in Jesus or not?
April 30, 2014 at 11:20 pm#790871
DavidL
Participant
you stubbornly persist in your delusions…trying to make the words of Jesus prove your own carnal theories, but really you are only fooling yourself (and maybe those who are vulnerable in their faith)..
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The fact is that no matter how much you hold up this verse…you are still teaching what every cult teaches…and probably for the same reason – turning away from reliance on the Spirit for interpretation of Scripture, to trust instead in your own natural understanding..!!
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thus you have become another ‘blind guide’ that Jesus warned us of…
April 30, 2014 at 11:30 pm#790872
Admin
Keymaster
DavidL, all you have left are false accusations. Jesus said that we would suffer as he has if we are of him. Now if you had scripture or some other good reason to backup what you said, I would consider your words, but only accusations with no basis whatsoever are not worrying to me in the least. I expect such behavior toward me if I am in Christ and doing God’s will. Because that drives people crazy and puts them on the offence by reason of them being offended. The secret here DavidL, it to not be offended by the truth. Let the truth have its way with you. Be transformed by the Word of Truth. No point in fighting against it. The truth will set you free, not bind you up. Fear not.
April 30, 2014 at 11:33 pm#790873
Admin
Keymaster
If I am deluded, then it is Jesus who has deluded me because I believe and trust in his words, “eternal life is this, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”. Evidently you have not been deceived (as you call it) by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This is basically what you are saying given the context.
May 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm#790874
DavidL
Participant
you are not deluded by Jesus – you delude yourself…because in truth you do not trust His words (as you falsely claim) – but lean on your own understanding, then try and support these carnal concepts with the words of Christ…
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“…impostors will flourish. They will deceive others and will themselves be deceived.” – 2 Timothy 3:13
May 5, 2014 at 1:09 am#790875
Admin
Keymaster
I trust his words: “Eternal life is this, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”. I trust this, teach this, promote this, and I am persecuted for this.
May 5, 2014 at 4:04 pm#790876
DavidL
Participant
Wake up t8 – the only persecution is your own conscience trying to tell you something..!!!
May 5, 2014 at 9:33 pm#790877
Admin
Keymaster
Not so. I repeat the very words of the saviour and accusations of false teaching etc are flung at me. But I am just the messenger. They are not my words. But eternal life is of utmost importance to me, so I believe my Lord when he said:

“Eternal life is this, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

Jesus said it. I believe it. You do not believe him. That is the conclusion.
May 8, 2014 at 5:08 am#790878
DavidL
Participant
unfortunately, even though you repeat the words of Jesus, they become utterly powerless and meaningless – because your motive is wrong…
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I defend the truth and you accuse me of persecution.. what can I say – more symptoms of your delusion..!?!
May 8, 2014 at 10:50 am#790879
Admin
Keymaster
lol. So when Jesus said that the only true God is the Father and that the only true God sent him, he didn’t really mean that. It was a special code for the Trinity, but only those who have this spirit you talk of can decipher that Jesus did not mean that the Father was the only true God, but that he was talking of the Trinity as the true God.

As I saw on a Tui billboard the other day. “Yeah right.”
May 9, 2014 at 5:45 pm#790880
DavidL
Participant
I know – you try and make the Trinity look confusing, when really it’s not..
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Bottom line – you use Scripture to deny Scripture..THAT is the real confusion.
May 10, 2014 at 12:54 pm#790881
Admin
Keymaster
Not even the greatest proponents of that doctrine understand it. They will be the first to say that it is beyond our understanding. So let’s not pretend that you understand it because I could ask you simple questions about the Trinity and you wouldn’t even attempt an answer. This you have proven to me already.
May 11, 2014 at 4:20 pm#790882
DavidL
Participant
Truth is never a doctrine to be understood in a logical sense…that is the mistake of man and the deception of Satan – who works endlessly to keep humanity and the church in darkness..
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We know the truth because right from the beginning of our conversion experience it is revealed to our hearts…yet Satan tries to pull our understanding back down to carnal level..he tempts us like he tempted Eve, to eat from the tree of knowledge…thinking we will become wise – yet even the good side of this tree brings death.
May 11, 2014 at 11:22 pm#790883
Admin
Keymaster
So if Peter says, repent and be baptised then it doesn’t logically mean what he said, but has some hidden meaning that we need to decipher. Likewise, when Jesus said, “eternal life is this, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”, then that too is a hidden meaning that the only true God is the Trinity made of three persons.

I’m not buying it DavidL. I believe Jesus meant exactly what he said in the same way Peter did too. Further, the meaning of the word ‘occult’ is ‘hidden, secret’, giving me further reason to not buy what you are selling. You are trying to sell me a hidden secret, hidden scriptural understanding in scripture. So just accept that I am not going to buy your leaven. And it is fine if you reject Jesus words and my support of them when he says that the Father is the only true God. You are free to do so.
May 12, 2014 at 5:37 pm#790884
DavidL
Participant
– choose Life bro..!!
May 13, 2014 at 4:37 am#790885
Admin
Keymaster
And what is life?

Jesus said, “ETERNAL LIFE IS THIS, that you may know the ONLY true God, AND Jesus Christ WHOM HE has sent”>

Amen, I choose life. I choose to believe. It gives me great joy to believe this.
May 17, 2014 at 7:13 pm#790886
DavidL
Participant
Jesus said to the Pharisees – “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;”…
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You hold up Scripture to prove a doctrine that denies the very God you claim to serve..!!! How are you any different to the Pharisees who imposed their own dead doctrines over the Living Scriptures..!!??
May 25, 2014 at 3:07 am#790887
Admin
Keymaster
DavidL, you say:
-eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;”…
You hold up Scripture to prove a doctrine that denies the very God you claim to serve..!!! How are you any different to the Pharisees who imposed their own dead doctrines over the Living Scriptures..!!??
Yet I say that Jesus Christs is Lord and the son, and the messiah. You say that he is God, thus by your view, he has to be the son of himself. And because you do not believe that he is the son of himself, you then have to deny that he is the son if you stubbornly hold that he is God.

One word describes this mess you are in: “BABYLON”.
June 3, 2014 at 2:28 pm#777134
Eric Njeru
Guest
I have read the bible for over 20 years and never realized that the trinity doctrine was nowhere from the scriptures! This doctrination starts from sunday school such that by the time you are old enough,its so holy to you to dicern it leave alone question it. This is life eternal,that u may know one true God, and christ jesus whom you have sent. What else do we need more than ‘life eternal’? This ends the debate. May the peace of our God, the father and the grace of our lord Jesus christ be with u all. Amen.
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