Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #814414
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK….ALIGN A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS. NOT A SINGLE SCRIPTURE YOU AS ME TO READ SAYS ANGELS ARE SPIRITS. The ball is in your court. please address the issue, stop skirting it brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814419
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    1cor 12

     

    For there are varieties of gifts but the same Spirit..

    but to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit..

    and to another faith by the same Spirit..

    and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit..

    But one and the same Spirit works all these things..

     

    Eph 4

    Being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace

    There is one body and one Spirit..

     

    1Cor 12

    For by one Spirit we were all baptised into one body..

    and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

     

     

    #814426
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK…..No where does that say that there is “only” one spirit that exists, even though it is by the one and same spirit we are all in christ. AND NON OF THAT SAYS THAT THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD “ARE” ANGELS OF ANYKIND. Again youmust showfroms ripture thatthose sevenspirits of God are a tually angels. You have no scriptural support for saying that angels “are” spirits that ihave seen you produce. reading into scriptures and forcing text tosay what is not specifically said, is not good scholarship NICK.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #814428
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Boast of your scholarship if you must.

    But spirits are intellects?

    #814440
    Proclaimer
    Participant
    • Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
    • “Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?”
    #814471
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8….FIRST OF ALL, NICK IS SAYING, THERE IS ONLY “ONE” SPIRIT, I AM SAYING THERE ARE MANY SPIRITS, HE IS ALSO SAYING, WHERE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS, IN THEEE PLACES ARE THE SEVEN ANGELS OF GOD.

    ALSO YOU ARE MISQUOTING SCRIPTURE, HEBREWS IS SAYING, GOD MAKES HIS ANGEL’S SPIRITS AND SENDS THEM OUT TO MINISTER, IT IS NOT SAYING HIS ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS, THAT IS A FALSE ASSUMPTION, IT IS SAYING HE MAKES THEIR SPIRITS IN THEM, IF ANGELS WERE SPIRITS THEN WHY WOULD THEY NEED MANNA, FOOD TO EAT.

    GOD MAKES ALL SPIRITS THAT EXIST, WHETHER IN OR OUT OF BODIES, EVERYTHING THAT HAS LIFE HAS SPIRIT IN IT, NO LIFE FORMS CAN EXIST WITHOUT SPIRIT.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #814480
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

     

    #814481
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    If you do not believe what is written who can reach you?

    #814482
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

    Hi Nick,

    REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814483
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    step by step

    Rev 1.4

    John to the seven churches that are in asia;  Grace to you and peace from Him Who is and Who was and Who is to come; and from the seven spirits who are before His throne: and from Jesus Christ…

     

    God is eternal.

    The verse separates Him from Jesus Christ but also from the seven spirits.

     

     

    #814485
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Rev 1.20 explains the vision of Jesus Christ with the the stars and the lampstands .

    The stars are the angels of the churches.

    So everything is not as first seen.

    There is much symbolism.

    #814486
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Note that scripture says several times

    He who has an ear let him hear what THE SPIRIT says to the churches

    ONE SPIRIT

    Rev 3.2

    He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars….

    This separates the seven angels of the churches from the seven other spirits

    #814487
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Rev 4.5

    ..and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God;

    Rev 5.6

    …a lamb standing , as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God , sent out into all of the earth.

     

    The Spirit of the living God is never separate from He Who is on the throne

    #814488
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

    Hi Nick,

    REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    Hi Nick,

    Not sure if you seen this post or not

    #814489
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Everything good and spiritual happens by the Spirit of God.

    Whether or not the Spirit is embodied in servant angels or men is not that important

     

    #814490
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.

    The Spirit are not a like man needing to be born

     

    Such is the folly of the Trinitarians

     

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    #814493
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.

    Hi Nick,

    “The Spirit of Christ” IS A PERSON – and his name is Jesus (YA-shu-a)!

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814494
    Ed J
    Participant

    Why do you think the Church was built upon this rock! ?

    #814495
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You go through these mental gymnastics because you cannot grasp the prophetic word.

    #814496
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The Rock is the Spiritual unity God wants.

    Thus those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are none of his.

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