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Eternal life is to know the one true God and his son

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John17-3

God made man in his image. Jesus is called the image of God. We are not the source. Jesus is not the source. Both are images of God. One made, the other begotten.

Further, an idol is the opposite. It is an image of God made by an image of God (man). All idols start of in the mind of man and not the Spirit of God. The Trinity Doctrine included. It creates a God from the mind and reasoning of man and abandons the teachings of scripture on who is the one true God.

Jesus said in John 17:3:
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Do not ignore the words of eternal life my friend.

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  • March 28, 2015 at 9:36 pm#791905
    NickHassan
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    Hi C,

    You certainly believe these human doctrines?

    You are your own light it seems.

     

     

    If then the light in you is is darkness how deep that darkness will be

     

    March 29, 2015 at 5:14 am#791913
    carmel
    Participant

     

    You certainly believe these human doctrines?

    You are your own light it seems.

    Nick,

    IF YOUR DOCTRINE IS NOT OF HUMAN’S

    CONTRADICT MY POST AND PROVE THAT YOUR DOCTRINE IS NOT OF HUMAN’S BUT OF??????????????????????

    ALSO WHY DON’T YOU GIVE ME SOME OF YOUR ABUNDANT LIGHT IN ORDER TO BE LIKE YOU?

    regarding this scripture:

    Romans 1:20

    For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

    AREN’T YOU READY AS A CHRISTIAN TO SHARE, GIVE, AND DO THINGS IN THE OPEN FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER,

    AND DEFINE YOUR OWN GOD’S DIVINITY CONCEPT IN RESPECT TO THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE?

    THE FACT THAT PAUL MADE CLEAR THAT EVEN GOD’S DIVINITY IS CLEARLY SEEN AND UNDERSTOOD FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD??

    COME ON NICK, SHOW US YOUR SUPER LIGHT AND WISDOM!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    March 29, 2015 at 8:12 am#791933
    carmel
    Participant

     

    You would not believe Jesus is God because you would be confident that God cannot be tempted by evil while Jesus was tempted as we are. Instead you choose to believe that Jesus cannot be tempted as we are even at the same time you believe he is tempted even as we are.

    Kerwin,

    Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    SO IN THIS SCRIPTURE IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO SATAN THAT BY TEMPTING JESUS, WAS IN THE TRUTH, AND EQUIVALENT TO TEMPTING GOD, THEREFORE JESUS WAS GOD’S PRESENCE ON EARTH IN FLESH!

    ALSO

    SINCE EARTH WAS THE PROPERTY OF SATAN,AND ALL HUMANS WERE IN DEBT TO SATAN,SO A NORMAL HUMAN BEING COULD NOT MEET THE CRITERIA,REGARDING THE MESSIAH,

    IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR YOU THAT JESUS WAS ALSO DIVINE!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    March 29, 2015 at 8:24 am#791939
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    No Jesus knew it was not right for him to tempt God by jumping off the temple.

    Read it again.

    March 29, 2015 at 11:46 am#791970
    carmel
    Participant

     

    No Jesus knew it was not right for him to tempt God

    NIck,

    SATAN TEMPTED JESUS: TRUTH!

    JESUS MADE IT CLEAR THAT:

    TEMPTING HIM IS IN THE SAME TIME AND EQUIVALENTLY TO:

    TEMPTING GOD!

    SATAN CHALLENGED JESUS TO JUMP TO CONFIRM THAT HE WAS THE SON OF GOD, DIVINE,THEREFORE TEMPTING GOD IN THE SAME INSTANT, AND WITH THE SAME ACT.

    WITHOUT JESUS PRESENCE SATAN COULD NEVER TEMPT GOD!

    ONLY JESUS WAS GOD IN FLESH!

    IT WAS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT THIS OCCURRED ON EARTH, THAT SATAN TEMPTED GOD!

    BUT IN JESUS PRESENCE!

    THEREFORE JESUS WAS GOD’S PRESENCE ON EARTH!

    THE FACT THAT HE WAS PROTECTED BY ALL THE ANGELS,AND JESUS HUMAN BODY WAS:

    “THE WORD” MADE FLESH GOD IN FLESH!

    ALL THE ENTIRE CORRUPTED CREATION IN HIS BODY FROM HIS CONCEPTION,ALTHOUGH SINLESS, PURIFIED THROUGH HIS LIFE WHILE ON EARTH!

    DIED SINLESS AND INNOCENT ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELL ALTHOUGH HAD BEEN TEMPTED THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE LIFE FROM THE AGE OF THIRTEEN !

    GOD WAS BORN IN HIM!

    Isaiah 66:9  Shall not I that make others to bring forth children, MYSELF BRING FORTH , saith the Lord? shall I, that give generation to others, BE BARREN, saith the Lord thy God?

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    March 29, 2015 at 3:56 pm#791985
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    No you are confused about the time he refused to jump off the temple as he that would be challenging God to save him as promised. Tempting God is not on.

    So cancel that TRUTH.

    God was in him and so the people recognised that and cried that GOD HAS VISITED HIS PEOPLE

    March 29, 2015 at 4:28 pm#791986
    kerwin
    Participant

    Carmel,

    Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    Jesus was just telling Satan he was not going to jump because doing so would tempt God to righteous anger.

    March 29, 2015 at 5:58 pm#791996
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    I think you should recheck which verse Satan quoted.

    March 30, 2015 at 3:58 am#792012
    carmel
    Participant

     

    No you are confused about the time he refused to jump off the temple as he that would be challenging God to save him as promised.

    Nick,

    Notice, Jesus said to Satan not to tempt the lord God, not simply because he asked him to jump!

    But due to the fact that he tempted Jesus three times, AND NO MORE WAS HE ALLOWED TO DO SO!

    SATAN NEVER TEMPTED ANYONE IN THAT MANNER ,FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT ALL HUMANS WERE HIS PROPERTY, AND THERE WAS NO NEED TO TEMPT THEM SINCE THEY SERVED HIM!

    THE FACT THAT ON BAPTISM SATAN WAS REMOVED FROM JESUS’SOUL,WITH JUSTICE, AND THE FATHER’S SPIRIT OCCUPIED JESUS’SOUL, AND DECLARED HIM HIS BEGOTTEN SON, IT PROVES THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH, AND JESUS WAS THE ONLY HUMAN BEING ON EARTH NOT SUBJECT TO SATAN’S POWER AND HIS GENERAL ATTRIBUTES,

    UNLESS JESUS HIMSELF ACCEPTED TO BE  SO! LIKE WHEN HE ORDERED HIM TO ENTER JUDAH IN ORDER TO BETRAY HIM!

    But God allowed Satan to tempt Jesus to justify the truth WHO JESUS WAS!

    Luke 4:1 AND Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost, returned from the Jordan, and WAS LED BY THE SPIRIT  into the desert,

    The above scripture confirms this!

    So Satan was allowed to tempt Jesus only three times IN SUCCESSION every occasion throughout the forty days

    READ:

    Luke 4:13 And all the temptation being ended, the devil departed from him FOR A TIME.

    OK?

    SO THOSE PARTICULAR TEMPTATIONS WERE:

    ONE RELATED TO THE THE SON BREAD,   SOULS!

    ONE RELATED TO THE THE HOLY SPIRIT EARTHLY POWER KINGDOMS

    ONE RELATED TO THE FATHER HEAVENLY REALM

    So Jesus made it clear that he was in the truth

    THE SON OF GOD, AND SATAN MUST LEAVE, OTHERWISE HE WOULD BE TEMPTING GOD TO REMOVE HIM,

    EVEN IF HE IS NOT YET CONVINCED THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD!

    SATAN WAS ALLOWED TO TEMPT JESUS EXTERNALLY ONLY, AND BEFORE  HIS MISSION STARTED IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY HIMSELF! SINCE HE LOST ALL TEMPTATIONS INTERNALLY IN THE PREVIOUS 18 YEARS.

    AFTER THEN JESUS WOULD BE IN COMMAND TO ESTABLISH GOD’S KINGDOM AND SATAN MUST AND WOULD SERVE HIM,

    JESUS HIS LORD GOD

    Luke 4:8 And Jesus answering said to him: It is written: Thou shalt adore THE LORD YOUR GOD, and HIM ONLY SHALL YOU SERVE.

    THE ABOVE STATEMENT FROM JESUS IS A REFERENCE TO HIM!

    SINCE SATAN WAS AND IS SUSTAINED BY “THE WORD” JESUS’ SPIRIT WITHIN HIM FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD.SO IN A WAY JESUS SERVED HIM TO ACCOMPLISH HIS ILLUSION TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.

    SO JESUS MADE IT CLEAR TO SATAN THAT  FROM THAT MOMENT ON HE WOULD SERVE HIM, HIS LORD GOD.

    THE FACT THAT HE LEFT, AND IS IN THE TRUTH SERVING LORD JESUS!

    AND BY SERVING LORD JESUS HE WOULD IN FACT ADORE ALSO GOD!

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST

     

    Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him: It is written,

    that Man liveth not by bread alone, but by every word of God.

    NOW THE BREAD THAT SATAN REFERRED TO, WERE SOULS IN THE STATE OF STONE, SINCE JESUS’ HUNGER WAS FOR SOULS, AND EVERY WORD OF GOD IS JESUS’ SPIRIT, THE WORD MADE FLESH!

    SO JESUS MADE IT CLEAR TO SATAN THAT ALTHOUGH SOULS ARE LIKE STONES,IN ACTUAL FACT ARE NOT JUST STONES, BUT ALSO SPIRIT WITHIN THEM, THE WORD JESUS’SPIRIT,AND ONCE SATAN IS REMOVED, THE CAUSE,THEY WILL NOT REMAIN STONE  AND WILL LIVE!

    THIS SYMBOLICALLY WAS MANIFESTED WHEN JESUS ASKED TO TAKE AWAY THE STONE TO RAISE LAZARUS FROM THE DEAD!

     

    SO AS I SAID:

    JESUS WAS THE PRESENCE OF GOD, AND BY TEMPTING JESUS IS EQUIVALENT TO TEMPTING GOD!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    March 30, 2015 at 6:53 am#792016
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    So YOU say.

    March 30, 2015 at 6:58 am#792018
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    You said the same thing I did though you use better grammar. My pronoun use is confusing to those who do not know what I am speaking of.

    Satan was being deceptive and basically told Jesus that if Jesus cast himself off the temple God would protect him from harm and Jesus’ answer revealed he knew that doing so would be a sin and so the words Satan quoted would not apply.

    March 30, 2015 at 7:19 am#792019
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Would not apply?

    You added stuff about God’s righteous anger.

    March 30, 2015 at 8:13 am#792021
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Jesus quoted from Deuteronomy 6:13 and the context if you look at verses 14 and 15 is about God’s jealousness and anger being stirred up by the disobedience of his people.

    I pulled them in because some Trinitarians ignorantly claim God it is evidence God can be tempted by evil.

    April 9, 2015 at 9:00 am#793359
    DavidL
    Participant

    @t8

    Sad. Many in deception do not test things.

    Many… in deception who do not know how to test false doctrine because they have not the Spirit.

    Sad… you condemn me for doing the very thing you say we should do – test the teachings of men (ie. your teaching).

     

    This site teaches people to distrust the Scriptures – to look to the teachings of men instead of the plain Word of God, and the Spirit for understanding..

     

    This is the exact same principle that the serpent used in the garden with Eve… he brought doubt concerning what God had spoken, then suggested she should partake of the tree of knowledge to become wise..

     

    This was the religion of the Pharisees, who taught as doctrines the precepts of men…

     

    “There is a way that SEEMS right unto man, but its end is the way of death.”

     

    Reason V’s Revelation..

     

    (“..and on this rock I will build My Church..”)

     

    ..faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the teachings of men Word of God.

     

    April 9, 2015 at 9:20 am#793361
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Hold up a mirror and you will see what you accuse others of is your failing.

    You cannot test your trinity idea because no scriptures support it

    April 10, 2015 at 11:26 am#793481
    DavidL
    Participant

     

    For the record – your own words support it…

    “To lie against the Spirit is to lie against God.”…!

    April 10, 2015 at 11:44 am#793484
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    How is exposing false doctrine lying against the Spirit?

    The Spirit wrote scripture through men and never mentioned any trinity

    April 10, 2015 at 2:39 pm#793487
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Rather this site teaches folk to trust the scriptures, to compare verse with verse and establish truth.

    It is you who would draw them away to believe rather in the speculations of foolish men.

    April 10, 2015 at 2:40 pm#793488
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Indeed many do not have the Spirit and instead follow the precepts and the traditions of men.

    Could you be among them?

     

    April 10, 2015 at 3:02 pm#793493
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    There are many spirits.

    Test the spirits.

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