Eternal life is to know the one true God and his son

John17-3

God made man in his image. Jesus is called the image of God. We are not the source. Jesus is not the source. Both are images of God. One made, the other begotten.

Further, an idol is the opposite. It is an image of God made by an image of God (man). All idols start of in the mind of man and not the Spirit of God. The Trinity Doctrine included. It creates a God from the mind and reasoning of man and abandons the teachings of scripture on who is the one true God.

Jesus said in John 17:3:
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Do not ignore the words of eternal life my friend.

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  • #791717
    DavidL
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    so – change the subject if you don’t have an answer..?

    #791719
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    It is not about me or you but about true doctrine

    There are many false teachers drawing crowds after them.

    #791721
    DavidL
    Participant

    Yes…you also have something to say – but why should I listen to you Nick…are YOU born again..?

    #791722
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    I have obeyed the command.

    You should listen to the Spirit.

     

    #791724
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    I enjoy the peace that passes all understanding.

    It is precious.

    #791726
    DavidL
    Participant

    So…you have received Jesus Christ as your Savior..?

    You cannot know Him as your Lord or your God, unless you first know Him as your Savior…!

    #791738
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Where does scripture speak of

    “receiving Jesus Christ as your saviour”

    or is this just another false way promoted by the latest false teachers?

    #791742
    DavidL
    Participant

    Come on Nick, why do play ignorant – Jesus is Savior isn’t He..?

    …is He YOUR Savior..?

    #791746
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    And soon as you can show the question has some scriptural relevance.

    #791747
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    There is no other name in heaven and earth by which we can be saved.””

    But making such a declaration without obedience to his commands is more uselessness.

    “Why do you call me Lord Lord and not do as I say?

    #791748
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Read the scriptures.

     

    Compare this with the modern demand that we give our lives to Jesus and ask him to be our saviour .

    Is there any similarity? Should we follow men or obey the Master?

    #791749
    DavidL
    Participant

    really, I will have to assume you are another one who just likes to talk about religious things..without any personal experience of knowing who Jesus is..

    #791751
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Would you be convinced if I shared personal experiences with you?

    You have your own deeply rooted beliefs so how would anyone get through your prejudices?

     

    remain content but you have heard enough.

    #791752
    DavidL
    Participant

    prejudices..because I accept the truth you cannot understand…?!

    I have given you Scripture, but you just ignore it…!!

    The Pharisees loved debating Scripture too, Nick..

    ..what did Jesus say…?

    “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me: and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.”

    #791758
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Yes you are only here to defend what you admit is of man.

    You love defining him but cannot come to him.

    #791762
    kerwin
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    DavidH,

    You are prejudiced because you are afraid to test the spirit of your teaching.   I have tested it and it has the spirit of confusion and God is not a God of confusion.  If you believed Jesus then you would believe that line up on line Scripture supports itself.  You would not believe Jesus is God because you would be confident that God cannot be tempted by evil while Jesus was tempted as we are.  Instead you choose to believe that Jesus cannot be tempted as we are even at the same time you believe he is tempted even as we are.  That is the fruit of the flesh and not the fruit of the Spirit for the Spirit is not a Spirit of contradictions.

    I think it is a waste of my time to point because you have sold your soul to a lie and to discover that will destroy what faith you live by even if that faith is in a lie.  Satan baits his traps well.

    Jesus instruct us to repent or we will perish.

    #791770
    bodhitharta
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    DavidL

    I know your heart is in the right place in regards to loving God even though we disagree regarding doctrine so although I will continue to discuss doctrine and spiritual teachings with you there is one thing for sure:

    Luke 9:50
    And Jesus said unto him, “Forbid him not; for he that is not against us, is for us.”

    So I will not nor cannot accuse you of not having the wonderful experiences with God as you have said so why should I doubt that:

    Revelation 12:10
    And I heard a loud voice saying in Heaven, “Now have come salvation and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night.

    God is great.

    Isaiah 59:1
    Behold, the Lord’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither His ear heavy, that it cannot hear.

    we would all love to believe that our version of what we know about God is the correct and only version but I will say:

    Psalm 70:4
    Let all those that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let such as love Thy salvation say continually, “Let God be magnified!”

    In conclusion:

    Revelation 7:1021st Century King James Version (KJ21)

    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!”

    #791782
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    DavidL

    Now back to our truth seeking

    Revelation 7:1021st Century King James Version (KJ21)

    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!”

    In the scripture above there is God and then there is the Lamb, who is the Lamb?

    #791811
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    There is no valid doctrine of a trinity.

    It a fantasy drawn by those outside the gate

    #791904
    carmel
    Participant

     

    There is no valid doctrine of a trinity.

    Nick,

    Explain hereunder regarding the TRINITY!

    Romans 1:20

    For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

    AS YOU CAN READ:

    THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF GOD, ARE CLEARLY SEEN FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD!

    BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE;

    HIS ETERNAL POWER ALSO,

    AND DIVINITY:

    NOW THIS IS FOR YOU AND ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY CONCEPT,

    SO THAT THEY ARE INEXCUSABLE

     

    THE TRINITY IS THE MOST UNIQUE POWER FUNCTION THE DEITY ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE VERY FIRST BEGINNING IN ORDER TO CREATE.

    ON HIS OWN HE NEVER NEEDED IT , ALTHOUGH IT WAS ALWAYS WITHIN HIMSELF! ALL IN THE DEITY!

    BUT TO CREATE HE TRANSFORMED IT INTO:

    “THE WORD” HIS SON, WISDOM, LIGHT!

    WHICH WAS WITHIN THE BEGINNING ITSELF: LUCIFER! THE FIRST ARCHANGEL!  a created god! the only one tangible in that moment in time!

    in the beginning was the word:

    IN LUCIFER WAS THE WORD!

    THE LIGHT BEARER!

    THE LIGHT/WISDOM,   WAS THE SON, “THE WORD”

    THE BEARER WAS LUCIFER, CREATION! MATTER TO BE!

    So it ‘s up to the individual THAT IN THE TRUTH OF IT, reflect on CREATION ITSELF and once you do it in LOVE for God, NOT TO SEE IF IT’S TRUE OR NOT, THE FACT THAT YOU ACCEPT IT BEFOREHAND, GOD WOULD REVEAL IT TO YOU

    IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT GOD WOULD EVEN MAKE YOU MORE BLIND NOT TO SEE IT SINCE WE DEPEND ON FAITH

    ALSO, TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR:

    NOT AS THREE PERSONS THOUGH WHICH IS A MISGUIDED TEACHING! SINCE EVEN GOD HIMSELF IS NOT A PERSON AS SUCH! BUT AN UNFATHOMABLE SPIRIT BEING WITHOUT A BEGINNING AND AND END, WHICH A PERSON IS NOT!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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