Did Jesus go to hell after he was crucified

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    Before  I delve into this subject, I would like establish a few thing such as the location and meaning of “Hades”,  “Geenna”, and “Sheol”

    Below are the definitions for these 3 words.

    HADES {hah’-dace} (as negative particle) hell, grave

    • name Hades or Pluto, the god of the lower regions
    • Orcus, the nether world, the realm of the dead
    • later use of this word: the grave, death, hell
    • In Biblical Greek it is associated with Orcus, the infernal regions, a dark and dismal place in the very depths of the earth, the common receptacle of disembodied spirits.
    • Usually Hades is just the abode of the wicked, Lu. 16:23, Rev. 20:13,14;
    • a very uncomfortable place.

    GEENNA {gheh’-en-nah}

    • hell, hell fire
    • Hell is the place of the future punishment call “Gehenna” or “Gehenna of fire”. This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned; a fit symbol of the wicked and their future destruction.

    SHEOL {sheh-ole’}

    • sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit
    • Sheol – the OT designation for the abode of the dead
    • place of no return
    • without praise of God
    • wicked sent there for punishment
    • righteous not abandoned to it

    Now I want to show you the location of Hell.

    See the scriptures below. In Ezekiel 26:20 (English-NIV) it says:
    then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place in the land of the living.

    Notice that this scripture indicates that some people are dwelling in the Earth below (the pit).

    Ezekiel 31:16 (English-KJV)
    I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

    Again Hell (sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit) is referred to as being in the earth.

    Luke 16:19-28 (English-NIV)
    19 There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day.
    20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores
    21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
    22 The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried.
    23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
    24 So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.
    25 But Abraham replied, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
    26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.
    27 He answered, `Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house,
    28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.

    Remember that these are the recorded words of Jesus himself.
    Taken literally it suggests that the world of the dead is/was divided into 2 regions. One for the wicked and the other for the righteous.
    The wicked are in torment in hell and the righteous are/were in peace with Abraham.
    There was/is a chasm between the 2 places that stopped either side from crossing to the other, yet they could/can still communicate with each other.

    Now I want to show you that Jesus went to Hades/Hell after He was crucified on the Cross according to the scripture.

    Matthew 12:40 (English-NIV)
    For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    This scripture is quite blatant about the fact that Jesus went to the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights.

    If this is the case then how do the words of Jesus spoken to the thief on the cross make sense.

    Luke 23:42-43 (English-NIV)
    42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
    43 Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

    The point I am making here is that Jesus was in the heart of the earth for approximately 3 days, after that he walked the earth for a short time and then he was lifted up into heaven.
    So if the reference to Paradise was heaven, then when Jesus said to the thief on the cross “that he would be in paradise with him today” would have to be a contradiction because Jesus was in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights.

    The only way that both scriptures can be explained without contradiction is to say that Paradise was also in the heart of the earth like Hell.
    Do you find this hard to believe?
    Doesn’t Luke 16:19-28 say the same thing. We just read earlier in those verses that when Lazarus died he went to Abraham’s side and the rich man went to hell. In hell the rich man looked up and could see Lazarus being comforted at Abraham’s side. But neither could cross over to the other side because of a huge chasm.

    Ephesians 4:9 (English-NIV)
    8 This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men.”
    9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions ?
    10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.

    The focal point for the word ascended and descended is the earth itself.
    In verse 9 it says that he descended to the lower earthly regions

    Hebrews 2:14 (English-NIV)
    Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death–that is, the devil.

    Revelation 1:18 (English-NIV)
    17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
    18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

    These scriptures indicate that Jesus was dead and is now alive, he also has the Keys of death and hell. We can see clearly that Jesus mission to destroy the power that the devil had over death was a success.

    1 Peter 3 (English-NIV)
    18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,
    19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison
    20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

    This scripture says that Jesus preached to disobedient spirits in prison who died before the flood of Noah.
    Although I myself do not quite understand the full ramifications of this verse, It does make sense that when Jesus defeated death, he could have proclaimed his victory to the wicked spirits in Hell, in other words he heralded their soon coming judgement, and then of course he set the righteous spirits free to abide in Heaven. It doesn’t necessarily mean that Jesus gave the wicked a second chance to repent as the New Testament scriptures are quite blatant about the fact that you can only repent while you are alive.

    1 Peter 4:5-6 (English-NIV)
    5 But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
    6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.

    This scripture could relate to the above scripture as they are only one chapter apart ie Jesus preached to the dead.
    This scripture also seems to say that the Gospel was preached to the dead and they were given a chance at life, but it can also be interpreted to say that the disobedient who are dead actually heard the gospel when they were alive, and the reference to the dead is to say that they were dead at the time of the scripture, ie now dead, but were actually alive when they heard the gospel.
    I have added these 2 verses as they relate to Jesus death and journey to the world of the dead, but I do repeat the statement I made earlier, and that is that I do not understand the full ramifications of these 2 verses.

    Matthew 27:50 – 52 (English-KJV):
    50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
    51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

    After Jesus died many of the dead saints arose and walked the earth and appeared to many.
    This seems to suggest that Jesus freed the dead saints from a sleep, so he probably went to the place of the dead and set them free. These saints would have been in Paradise, see Luke 16:19-28 (quoted earlier).
    Remember that Jesus also rose from the dead and walked the earth before being taken up into Heaven. These saints of old that walked the earth probably were raised to heaven as well. There is no suggestion in the Bible that these saints continued to live amongst mankind.

    The fact that the dead rose at the same time as Jesus resurrection is a fulfillment of what Jesus said would happen in John 5:28-29 (English-NIV)

    28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice
    29 and come out–those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

    Also
    1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (English-NIV)
    16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
    17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.

    Notice that the dead rise first, and at some stage all those believers who are still living will join the dead to meet the Lord.
    Jesus victory over death has enabled the saints who have died to by pass Hades and go to Heaven as he did, this was a result of the victory over the devil; who had the power of death. Jesus took the keys of death and hell from him, as we read earlier Revelation 1:18.
    Today when the righteous die, they go straight to heaven, but the wicked remain in the grave/hell until the great day of judgement. See Revelation 20:11-14 (English-NIV)

    11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
    12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
    13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
    14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

    There is no record of the righteous in heaven before Jesus death except for the Mount of Transfiguration where Elijah and Moses appeared with Jesus in heavenly glory. See Luke 9:29-31. But these 2 persons were exceptions. Elijah never saw death, he was taken up into Heaven while he was alive therefore by passing the holding place where Abraham dwelt, see 2 Kings 2:11
    As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

    Moses was also an exception. Jude 1:9 says
    But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

    Here we see that Michael the Archangel and the devil fought over Moses body.
    Each probably laying claim to why they could have it. The devil probably argued that it couldn’t be taken because he had the Power over death at that stage. Needless to say it doesn’t say who won, but that fact that Moses appeared in glory next to Jesus side in the Mount of Transfiguration shows us the outcome of this dispute.

    Going on now we find the following scripture.

    Revelation 1:5 (English-NIV)
    and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,

    This scripture points out that Jesus is the first born from the dead. This suggest that there must be other people born from the dead to follow. Matthew 27:50 – 52  compliments this. Only the power of God can raise the dead and this is what it means to be Born Again. The power that raised Jesus from the dead will also raise all those who belong to God when they die.

    Corinthians 15 22-28 English-NIV)
    22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
    23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
    24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
    25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
    26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
    27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
    28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

    This scripture reveals a great mystery, that mystery being “all in Christ live”. First Jesus, then the firstfruits, then those that belong to Jesus at his coming. Then the end will come when Jesus destroys all dominion and authority. The last enemy is death. This will result in God the Father being able to dwell in all.

    This fits in well with the teaching that Jesus went to Hell, so as to be victorious over Hell, and therefore destroying the One who had Power over death, namely the Devil.

    It makes sense that when Jesus died that he went to Hell and defeated death and took the Keys of death and Hell from Satan who had the power of death. This victory means that Jesus defeated death in a bid to make all things subject to him. Death was the last enemy that needed to be conquered and now Jesus has been exalted to the highest position in heaven by God. This victory has enabled all those who belong to God to be raised from the dead with the same power. Jesus is waiting for all his enemies to be made a footstool at his feet.Then  he will give his Kingdom to his Father that the Father may dwell in all.

    Hebrews 1:13
    13 To which of the angels did God ever say,
    “Sit at my right hand
    until I make your enemies
    a footstool for your feet”?
    14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

    Hebrews 10:12-14
    12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

    Much  of the work that is left is for the Church to complete, including preaching the gospel of the Kingdom  to all the world. Then the end shall come.

    Further: Did you know that Hell is not forever because it is thrown into the Lake of Fire. God is going to destroy the Heavens and Earth with fire after the Millennium, and with this same fire, he destroys the wicked. Further, it he destroys the Earth and Hell is inside the Earth then Hell as a dwelling place would surely also be destroyed. See these next 3 scriptures for confirmation. Or read this related writing:
    https://heavennet.net/writings/is-hell-eternal/

    2 Peter 3:7 (English-NIV)
    By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

    Revelation 21:1 (English-NIV)
    Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

    Revelation 20:14 (English-KJV)
    And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    #778793
    laneyboy
    Participant

    When Jesus said in Luke that He would be in the belly of the earth 3 days and 3 nights as Jonah was in the belly of the fish!!!

    #778794
    Anastas
    Participant

    I would like to reason that our Lord really did go to hell after he died, but its the definition of hell that matters here. Most people automatically think of hell as the fiery pit where evil people go, but, in actuality, It is likely the hell our Christ went to was Sheol. Sheol is found all throughout the old testament and this is the place all dead go, good or bad. Even David knew this was his final resting place but, certainly, we can trust David will not be judged as unrighteous. Our Christ died, but his resurrection was the breaking of the bonds of Sheol. He beat death so that we might share in his salvation. How wonderful! Thanks be to God!

    May God bless you and lead you to Christ,
    Your brother, Anastas

    #778795
    Mark
    Guest

    I highly disagree! I didn’t even bother reading it all. Most verses were taken out of context starting from the very first verse.

    About this sheol where dead people dwell, try to understand the state of the dead in these verses:

    Psalms 6:3-5: “My soul is also sore vexed: but thou, O LORD, how long? Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies’ sake. For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?”

    Psalms 115:17 “The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.”

    Psalms 146:4 “His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish”

    Ecclesiastes 9:5,6  “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.”
    I guess it’s quite obvious..

    So I ask… How did this LIE get started?

    It’s all in PUNCTUATION folks! That’s right! Punctuation! 
    Luke 23:43 “And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” 

    Is Luke 23:43 REALLY saying we go to Heaven directly at death?
    Jesus is crucified, just before breathing His lat HE tells the thief on the cross he will be with Him in Paradise. Then three days later, Jesus rises from the dead and Mary Magdelene approaches Him in John 20:17 and “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:”  Why did Jesus tell the thief in Luke 23:43 that they’re going to Heaven that day, and then three days later tell Mary He hasn’t gone yet?  Some say this proves the Bible contradicts itself. However, the fact of the matter is, many years after the King James Bible was written, punctuation was added to it. The coma in Luke 23:43 is actually mis-placed. It should be placed after the word “today.” If it is left before the word “today,” it appears Jesus is being dishonest either to Mary or the thief on the cross. However, if it is placed correctly after the word “today”, He is now telling them both His truth and no contradiction is assumed. Now read Luke 23:43 with the coma in the correct place…

    Luke 23:43 “And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee To day, shalt thou be with me in paradise.” 
    (Paradise is hell? Seriously?) 

    How could have Jesus went to hell if hell didn’t even exist yet? 
    When will hell take place?

    Revelation 20:9 “And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
    Hell is going to be here on earth! 

    When the City of Heaven is about to be placed on the Earth and all the wicked surround it to destroy it. THAT’S when what the Bible calls “The second death” (SEE Rev. 2:11 Rev. 20:6,14 Rev. 21:8) is realized by the wicked. ALL people are merely “asleep” in their graves until one of two things happens. 
    John 5:29 “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
    Email me if you want detailed information on hell.
    I hope that fixed it for you. Sabbath Shalom! 

    #778796
    John 666
    Guest

    If Jesus went to hell to fight the powers of evil? What happened to all those fought? He died for people’s sin yet preached to those who have sinned most but those individuals will remain in the same place….. Seems like big J tried to do too much than could be handled…. #scienceistheway 🙂 xx

    #778797
    Geraldine
    Participant

    In the Bible, Jesus’ parables do not mention names yet Lazarus was mentioned when speaking to the rich man who was in hell. Saying, where I am you cannot come etc. Can this be explained?

    #778798
    Admin
    Keymaster

    Many sinners have turned their lives around in his name including myself.

    #778755
    LC
    Guest

    enjoying reading your website. clear and thoughtful.

    #778756
    abt
    Guest

    mostly clear; then in the end your comment: did you know that hell is not forever. u should ve been more clear and written: hades/gehenna/shoel.
    you should add then where will those unrighteous be? they will be destroyed? I feel there is too much evidence that it will be eternal hell for the unrighteous. sad and scary but that s what I gleam from the Word. likewise the righteous will live in eternity.

    #778757
    Admin
    Keymaster

    If it says that Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire, then Hell cannot be the Lake of Fire. And it also says that the same fire that destroys the wicked is the same fire that burns up the heavens and the earth. After this, a new heaven and earth where there is no suffering or pain and God will wipe away every tear.

    #778758
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    Keymaster
    #778759
    G.G.D.
    Guest

    No, Jesus Christ did not visit Hell when He died. Please be open minded enough and pray for the Holy Ghost to reveal truth to you as you read this. Thank you and God bless all.

    #778760
    Admin
    Keymaster

    Please share why.

    #778761
    David Kauffman
    Guest

    Amen

    #778762
    Riley
    Guest

    In reference to the statement he said to thief, there’s nothing contradictory. You forgot about the trinity. Jesus is God. God is in heaven. When he says that to that convict he’s talking about God who is also Jesus.

    #778763
    Admin
    Keymaster

    Of course there is no contradiction as I point out, but this has nothing to do with a/the Trinity.

    #778764
    Ed
    Guest

    Nice article! Of course hell is no eternal. Gods mercy endures FOREVER. And there are plenty of passages that confirm the salvation and restoration of all things. There is indeed a hell which is men condition of being apart of God; worshiping his own self, doing his own will. Living unsatisfied, searching fir happiness his whole life, but never achieving it… The lake of fire is like a purifier of gold, mentioned so many times in the bible. It takes impurities out, burning then, so all that is left is gold. The same happens with a christian which is baptised with fire, gods fire who burns all of our self will, selfishness, pride, hate, until all that is left is Christ… one day every knee will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    God Bless
    ,

    #778765
    jan swaney
    Guest

    in the first place Jesus is all presented God said if you have seen my son you have seen me that’s how he is in both places at same time,the bible does not counter act it’s self where ever you make your bed he will be there.

    #778766
    Kevin
    Guest

    I like your article, i must say that i dont totally agree with most of it thou since its kinda base moreso on assumption.
    The bible says that when a soul/person died they sleep, they knows nothing, they see no heaven or hell until the day of judgement they will know there faith. also yes, there are persons under the earth, the spirits of satan are the only movable force under the earth, this is since everyone one that is dead is sleeping.

    Jesus didnt went to hell to get the key of death from satan.
    Remember that when Satan was cast out of heaven with his followers he lost all his position and status in heaven but he did have some access with heaven.
    (God could have killed him, but he wanted the rest of Angels to see the kind of God he is that gives everyone the choice to love him and not fear him (fear like been afraid of a gunman)
    (Job 1 vs 6)
    6.One day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.
    7. The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
    Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
    8. Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

    when Jesus died, the devil has lost total access to heaven, the temple was rent as a signal to show that prophecy has fullfilled, everything from the old testament that was leading to the birth and death of Jesus. Including sacrifices of lamb and letting the priest help in the forgiving of your sin, (like what is happening in catholic church now) everything thing that of old in the temple is over. everyone now has individual access through Jesus.
    The devil thought he had won, since he uses Jesus own people to kill him. When satan had realize he couldnt alter prophecy he know he is on a loosing streak, he lost the key…
    (please note also that Jesus had resurrected multiple people from the dead including Lazarus, so he had the key to begin with)

    Remember that the very first resurrection is when Jesus was resurrected he had resurrected all the saved souls and take them to heaven with him, if when we died we go to heaven or hell immediately then there would have been no point to be raised again when God returns.

    I could go on and on but i choose not for now, scriptures are not to be interpret literally, its a spiritual thing. the NIV is not a good source, it tries to make the word of God literal so you will miss most of the revealing point from the holy Spirit

    Thank you

    #778767
    Admin
    Keymaster

    The dead went to Hades both good and bad, but they were separated by a huge gulf. When Jesus died, he went to Hades and freed the righteous dead from death. And many of the graves were opened and many of the dead even appeared to the living.

    Matthew 27:51-53
    51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.…

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