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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    To all……Your using the word “firstborn”,  to mean first created.
    Born is completely different then “created “.
    Jesus is the first human being “born of the womb of a women, to enter into the kingdom of God.” He is also given by God that firstborn status of them who will also exactly like him will enter into the Kingdom of God also,   but none of…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    @ Proclaimer

    John 5:26
    For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

    Live in Himself 

    In this “life in Himself” There IS the POWER To created “ALL THINGS”

    IN HIM(The Word) WAS LIFE (Zoé)

    So The Son has received the POWER TO CREATE ALL THINGS(WHEN He WAS BEGOTTEN BY the FATHER  in eternity pa…[Read more]

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    Graham Hancock Explains the Mysteries of Atlantis and Göbekli Tepe.

    Was there a huge flood on Earth in the past? Does science agree with the biblical flood? Is the myth of Atlantis really about the

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    Theos is a Greek word used in the NT. In the NT, knowing YHVH is both God and Lord, the NT usually designates the Father as God and the Son as Lord.

    Theos is used to describe more than the Father and the Son. It can refer to the following:

    • a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities
    • spoken of the only and true God
    • refers to…

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    OMG, what is wrong with my post exactly?

    I can’t help it if you keep misunderstanding things. Not my fault. Read my post again. It simply is saying that ‘theos’ can be applied to one or many. Further, I have taught in the past it can be applied to judges, Satan, idols, and the one true God.

    Of course context and definite articles or lack of them…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    SO all things were not made THROUGH him?

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Proclaimer

    Tell me Berean. Was Jesus Christ the creator or were all things made THROUGH him? 

    I believe that Jesus is the CREATIVE AGENT OF THE FATHER, HIS GREAT WORKER.
    THE FATHER IS THE DESIGNER (CREATOR) AND THE SON IS THE EXECUTOR.

    JESUS IS FROM GOD (THE FATHER) OMNIPOTENT
    YES OMNIPOTENT

    WOULD YOU BE AMAZED BY THIS?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    @berean

    All things were made by him(“THE WORD); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Is this a contradiction then?

    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or a…[Read more]

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      Hi Proclaimer

      I’m late, I hadn’t seen
      sorry

      WHEN THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN IN THE DAYS OF ETERNITY (MICAH 5: 2), HE RECEIVED FROM THE FATHER THE LIFE IN HIMSELF, (JOHN 5:26) THAT IS THE DIVINE LIFE THAT CONTAINS ALL THE DIVINE ATTRIBUTES OF THE FATHER omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence.
      THIS IS WHY JOHN SAYS [AND THE WORD WAS “THEOS”]

      PAUL…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Global Christianity is governed by one or the other of two different and opposing principles, which originate from two different conceptions of Jesus Christ.

    One system takes the Bible as the supreme source and without appeal of the truth, to see in it the revelation of the divine will, and to be itself the maximum revelation of the…[Read more]

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    The word Lord is used for THE FATHER as well as the SON.

    And of Joseph and others.

    Including the landlord you may have paid rent to.

    For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many so-called gods and lords), 6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. An…[Read more]

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    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

    There it is. God is greater than Lord.

    YHWH is translated as LORD in the Old Testament.

    Kurios is translated as Lord in the New Testament.

    Think of Joseph. He was made Lord over Egypt. Except he didn’t have lordship over the Pha…[Read more]

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    You are correct, Abraham is not talking to the Father. He is talking to YHVH however

    He is talking to God the Father, but through the Son or Angel of YHWH.

    Do you not understand. If you see the Son you see the Father.

    Not all instances say Angel of the LORD. But some say The Angel in the New Testament because they understand what is going…[Read more]

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    The word Lord is used for THE FATHER as well as the SON.

    THE LORD GOD IN OT

    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.(GENESIS)

    THE LORD GOD IN NT

    Marc
    During that time,
    a scribe came up to Jesus to ask him:
    “Which is the first of all the c…[Read more]

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    LU….. Jesus said clearly ,  “call no man on earth your father, for one is “your” father who is in heaven”.
    And again,  He told us to pray like this , “our”  Father Who art in heaven”….he includes himself by using  the word “OUR”. 

    and again, he said,  “your” father in heaven knows you have need of these things”

    and again he said , [Read more]

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    Hi Adam,

    Like I said, I speak of one YHVH who is two persons, not two persons who are of different YHVH families. There is one family of YHVH. The Father and His Son are the two members with eternal and divine essence. Do you think that Proclaimer and Mike don’t believe that there is a family of YHVH?

    Do you not think that the OT teaches that…[Read more]

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    Theos is a Greek word used in the NT. In the NT, knowing YHVH is both God and Lord, the NT usually designates the Father as God and the Son as Lord. Both are together as one YHVH family not two different YHVH families and therefore not two different Gods.

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    This was your post in response to me trying to tell you that “theos” has a plural form but you seemed really confused because of how you responded to me. You should have actually have taken your own advice.

    LU:As is apparent in your last post, you have no idea about Greek plural nouns or singular nouns. Here is a picture of how the root word…

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    Proclaimer said:

    The Word was theos just means that the Word is divine, not ‘a divine’.

    The Father identifies the “Word” as YHVH, Heb 1:10-12 here:

    10And:

    “In the beginning, O Lord (YHVH), You laid the foundations of the earth,

    and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

    11They will perish, but You remain;

    they will all wear out like a garme…[Read more]

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    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    So the one true God gave his one Son for us. Reject this gift of salvation at your own peril.

    The messiahs work is done. Grace toward sinners wont last forever.

    The door will close at some point.

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