So I say again… there is no need for the word “LIE” to ever leave your mouth in reference to anyone on this site – as if you know their heart or intent. And there is no need for you to talk down to anyone here – as if you have more “Holy Spirit” than them or enlightenment or whatever.  You do fine making solid scriptural based arguments here…

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Now, if everyone who was called “theos” was also called “YHVH.” that is where the mass confusion would come. So we are to follow after the theos who is YHVH. It just so happens that the Father is the theos who is identified as YHVH and the Son is the theos who is identified as YHVH. They are both identified as the theos in the NT and they are bot…

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I will repeat this in case my post is too long for you to read.

So yes, many can be called ‘theos’ (singular), just not when referencing them in plural.

Move on please.

“It simply is saying that ‘theos’ can be applied to one or many.”

That is what is not true because the plural is not spelled t h e o s, as you finally realized, as well as the fact that you included theos as an example of a word that is spelled the same in the plural as in the singular in your “sheep list.”

Yes I have already acknowledged the plu…[Read more]

I’ll explain it another way.

First came the law, then came grace.

You are free to not believe.

For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

By the way, the plan is still in action. There is further revelation to come.

Your view appears to be more about the constraints of your own mind than what the Old…[Read more]

See?  After your brother in Christ demands that you don’t call him a liar, you went post after post after post talking about how it is your duty to call out lies – again making it abundantly clear that I was the “liar” you were calling out.

And in the middle of your condescension against me, you even admitted that I had corrected you… which…[Read more]

Then you question your Old Testament my friend. If the NT writers claimed to have got new secret revelation as often quoted by you here they could have very well done without quoting the so called Old Testament. If you want a new revelation and a new religion we have plenty here in our India. We need not look to the Christian one.

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Do you see how I tried to be the peacemaker that you claimed to be?  Do you see how I tried to explain to you the difference between an INTENTIONAL act to WILLFULLY deceive someone else on purpose, and somebody making a simple mistake?  Yet I was met with every post from you including the word “lie” – in some condescending further attack on my c…[Read more]

I think this is going little personally as your posts are attacking on personal spirituality which is not warranted on these unending debates. I have also asked you to study the Torah and get enlightened which you seem to ignore and take it so lightly. Please stop this black mailing with words like ‘carnal’ and ‘born  from above’ which are simp…

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Notice my correct response in the blue square.  Notice your immediate attack against my character in the red square. What part of what I said was wrong – or a lie?  Now you will later say that you didn’t *literally* come out and call me a liar – but anyone who reads your comment in the red box above will agree that you were indeed calling me a l…[Read more]

Do you really want to do this again?  Okay.  It started with you posting an illustration of a disk earth with 3 people looking off in different directions.  And you asked if the earth was flat, how could all 3 of those people see the same sky.  And I rightly responded that all 3 people WOULDN’T see the same sky – since they are on different par…[Read more]

Your second example contains your own words which I have no control over. That is not proof or evidence that I have said you are a liar is it?

If you cannot provide even one example Mike, then you are falsely accusing me.

Please provide an example or admit you are wrong.

Thanks.

Excuse me, but the statement I make in your first quote is correct. It stands on its own. Do you think we cannot utter this? Is this statement incorrect? You first example is a fail. It doesn’t show me saying, Mike is a liar for example.

From a year and a half ago…

The next day on the same thread…

And ignore you I did… for over a year.  In fact, I’ve just recently began having some very cursory discourse with you again.

And the above isn’t the only time I’ve called you out for calling other members here liars – as many of them can attest.

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Proclaimer,

You said regarding Heb 1:10:

If the psalmist were speaking of the Son and if God is speaking in Hebrews 1:10-12, then this adds massive confusion. This would mean that God is quoting the psalmist to say that God the Father is not the creator.

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Agreed. He is quick to call others liars, or insinuate that they are less enlightened than him, just because they interpret certain information differently than he does. I have condemned this behavior many times on this forum.

Show me the proof. A link to a post will be sufficient.

Proclaimer:

You said:

So you say that the Father and Son are one theos, so that would make the words “ye are gods” no different as that is a group too.

They are ULTIMATELY one theos because they act together, not independently, as two persons in one governing body.  The ones referred to as “many gods” in 1 Cor 8 or “ye are gods” are not ulti…[Read more]

Proclaimer

This is what was incorrect:

It simply is saying that ‘theos’ can be applied to one or many.

That is what is not true as well as your “sheep list.”

Hi Jodi,

I see that you have been busy. Welcome back. Please tell me how you think “dia” should be translated in Heb 1:2.

in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through “dia”whom He also made the world.

Hi Gadam

You

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Read carefully the following;

The most mediated verse in the Bible during Pandemic; 2 Chr 7:13-14

13 When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command the locust to devour the land, or send pestilence among my people, 14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn fr…[Read more]