Proclaimer replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
There are many antichrists.
One sign is antichrists deny Jesus is the Son of God, a core tenant of Islam.
Islam based itself on Jewish and Christian scriptures. Probably in an attempt to gain legitimacy among the people.
But it introduced lethal doctrines and then forced this through preaching and violence.
Imagine the tribulations that…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
ANTICHRIST
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi To all
What does Jesus do for us?
(1) Does he offer us the gift of salvation?
(2) He GIVEN us salvation?
Is there a difference between these two ways of believing?
Yes. If you believe (1), you will feel that your salvation begins with YOUR act or choice to accept what He offers you. If you choose not to accept it, then you will think…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Brother Gene thanks for your reply. But I don’t agree with your interpretation on “this generation” as a particular generation because Jesus was referring to the generation whom he was talking. Gospel preaching to the ends of the earth again a speculation of Matthew’s writer as this saying is tied to “truly I tell you, you will not have go…
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
The Last Days according to the NT writers
According to preterists “the last days” refers to the time between the advent of John the Baptist and the destruction of Jerusalem. This “eschaton” refers not to a time in the distant future, but to a time that is imminent. Gary DeMar summarizes the relevant passages of the New Testament with emphasi…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Brother Gene thanks for your reply. But I don’t agree with your interpretation on “this generation” as a particular generation because Jesus was referring to the generation whom he was talking. Gospel preaching to the ends of the earth again a speculation of Matthew’s writer as this saying is tied to the third one “truly I tell you, you wi…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
It’s amazing that I even need to point this out right.
So Isaiah 53 was not so important for the Jewish Christians of Jesus’ time?
Then why bother you and me now?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
As I quoted earlier there was no such concept of dying Messiah at the time of Jesus which is clearly visible in the earliest traces of the NT. Please take the example of Peter’s negative statement on Jesus’ death (on the cross) and the disciples’ ignorance on the scriptures supporting dying Messiah in Luke 24.
So what. I understand today there…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
It also makes perfect sense that if God used the nation of Israel and then sent his messiah into the world, then both would have similar descriptions in that the world generally hates God, so both would get similar treatment. Just like Christians receive today in many places in the world.
Isaiah 53 doesn’t rule out Jesus. It supports him more t…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Rejecting Jesus Christ in the forum Faith 5 years, 3 months ago
1. He will be King over united Kingdom of Israel
2.Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
3. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
4. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore.” (Is…GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam…..The kingdom of God comes not without observation , ” it is within you.” That is what Jesus could have been talking about. Also the very net chapter he did take some of the disciples , where he was transformed before them and Moses and Elijah appeared with him. Just as John was transported also “before he died” into “the day of the lord…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
It also makes perfect sense that if God used the nation of Israel and then sent his messiah into the world, then both would have similar descriptions in that the world generally hates God, so would get roughly the same treatment.
Isaiah 53 doesn’t rule out Jesus. It supports him.
It is amazing how close it resembles his life.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Lol. Saying this doesn’t fit with Jesus is a joke.
If it quacks it’s a duck.
Of course not proof on its own, but certainly sounds like Jesus more than any other entity on planet earth in recorded history.
Your not very convincing gadam.
Just saying.
gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam……Matt 13:29….So you in like manner : when you shall “see” these thing come “to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. (30), truly I say unto you, that “THIS GENERATION” shall not pass till all these thing be done.
what generation> The generation that, SEE’S THESE THINGS COME TO PASS. That is the generation he was talkin…
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet i…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam……Matt 13:29….So you in like manner : when you shall “see” these thing come “to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. (30), truly I say unto you, that “THIS GENERATION” shall not pass till all these thing be done.
what generation> The generation that, SEE’S THESE THINGS COME TO PASS. That is the generation he was talking about,…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Keras
You
The Return in glory will not be a surprise, as it will happen exactly 1260 days after the ‘beast’ has conquered the holy people. Rev 12:6-17
Me
1-The Holy people are those who keep the commandments of God AND have thé faith OF Jesus(Rev.14:12) THIS IS THE CHURCH OF GOD , THE HOUSE OF GOD(1Tim.3:15)
But if I tarry long, t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Jodi…….exactly right , to say Israel done no violence and no sin, and, they were the “suffering servant” of God is “indeed a joke at best”.
Any true Jewish Rabbi would know that, they were all sinners and disobedient children right from the very start, even to this very day . Thank God there are some Messianic Jews who know the truth, t…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Rejecting Jesus Christ in the forum Faith 5 years, 3 months ago
What’s the no1 thing that he didnt fulfill that comes to your mind?
1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man l…[Read more]gadam123 replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Unfulfilled prophecy simply means that it is yet to happen. NOT because hundreds of years have passed, with no sign of when it will all will take place. Ezekiel 33:33 When it come, as surely they will.…
The list of predictions of when those people you quote, thought they would happen, is proof that we cannot know the Day when the Lord will…
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